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#571 sharpshooter

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Posted 19 July 2015 - 04:01 AM

At this stage, I don't really mind who sings the song. Just as long it's a good one.

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Posted 20 July 2015 - 01:38 AM

Anyone else have a feeling that the SPECTRE title song will have a bit of a Live and Let Die vibe going on? There seems to be so many echoes of it from everything i've seen so far. It's no secret that it's Craig and Mendes' favourite Bond film, so who thinks we'll get some YKKM/LALD style rock tune?

 

This may be the case - I also get a LALD vibe from the few things I have seen.



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Posted 20 July 2015 - 07:23 AM

We need a good 'LALD'-esque Bond theme for Craig, like 'YKMN'. Something with a sense of danger to it; urgency and excitement with a memorable rhythm.



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Posted 20 July 2015 - 08:43 AM

We need a good 'LALD'-esque Bond theme for Craig, like 'YKMN'. Something with a sense of danger to it; urgency and excitement with a memorable rhythm.

I'm on the record hoping for an upbeat song this time, not that I disliked Adele's 'Skyfall'.



#575 Harmsway

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Posted 20 July 2015 - 01:23 PM

A rockin' song would be a nice change of pace (Skyfall is *very* moody, after all). But who knows?



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Posted 20 July 2015 - 02:05 PM

Adele made 'Skyfall' work, with her vocal power, and it sounded brilliant.

 

But yeah, not a ballad this time. I always hated the fact Roger Moore had 4 film run ('TSWLM'-'OP') of slow ballad-esque songs and the foot stomper he had with 'AVTAK' was amazing. Like 'LTK', the theme just didn't quite suit the film, so I hope 'Spectre' has something equally stomping but menacing.



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Posted 20 July 2015 - 02:27 PM

The following wouldn't surprise me;
1. Something like "Skyfall", complete with Monty Norman reference back. After all it worked for Adele.
2. Something similar to YKMN. Always reminded me of a rock based mix of Thunderball and Live And Let Die.
As for Ellie Goulding's tweet, I'm not reading that much into it. We still don't know for certain that she's doing the Spectre theme.

#578 Guy Haines

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Posted 20 July 2015 - 03:28 PM

Lack of menace, or the lack of the sinister, is something I regretted in many of the theme tunes of the 1970s and 1980s. I think it started with, and I know I'll sound like a heretic but here goes, "Nobody Does It Better". My first reaction on hearing it back in 1977 was, sorry to say, "that doesn't sound like a Bond theme to me". I realise NDIB has legions of fans out there, but it is just my personal view (Marvin Hamlisch's score for TSWLM, on the other hand, I liked a lot!)
NDIB did well though and I think influenced what followed until Duran Duran's theme for AVTAK. And ever since, the Bond team has been chasing that elusive number 1 theme tune hit in the US and the UK.

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Posted 20 July 2015 - 04:13 PM

IMO, the nature of the theme song should change according to the film itself.  The elegic SKYFALL-tune was appropriate for the requiem-character of the story.

 

SPECTRE deserves a more sinister approach - "Thunderball" meets "Live and let die"...



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Posted 20 July 2015 - 04:53 PM

"Nobody Does It Better" DID kick off a string of "romantic" Bond themes for the next 3 films + LTK, but it wasn't without precedent: FRWL, the actual song by Matt Monro played at the end of FRWL, was a "romantic" theme that people wouldn't think sounded like a Bond theme nowadays; likewise YOLT.

 

I actually kind of miss those "romantic" themes, since they've pretty much been done away with entirely.  They were a nice occasional change of pace.  If they ever use "The Property of a Lady" as a title (which is kind of doubtful at this point, since Vesper's Algerian love knot would've been the easiest way to make sense of the title in modern context), IMO this is the kind of theme they would / should use.

 

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Posted 20 July 2015 - 06:28 PM

I completely agree with SecretAgentFan and Guy Haines.

 

I think a rock version like LALD and YKMN but more mysterious akin to Thunderball.


Edited by Walecs, 20 July 2015 - 06:30 PM.


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Posted 20 July 2015 - 06:31 PM

I completely agree with SecretAgentFan and Guy Haines.

 

I think a rock version like LALD and YKMN but more mysterious akin to Thunderball.

 

That's what I'd like as well.

 

Only problem is I can't see Sam Smith or Ellie Goulding pulling off anything remotely in that ballpark.  



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Posted 20 July 2015 - 07:09 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't some nod in the direction of Thunderball simply because that was the story in which SPECTRE originated.

Regarding the "romantic" themes - You Only Live Twice is one of my favourite Bond themes, and it is gentler than the likes of a Goldfinger or Thunderball - but it didn't lack a hint of the mysterious, even sinister, to my tin ear at least. Nobody Does It Better is a fine song, but it lacks that "edge" which the best of the early, predominantly John Barry written theme songs had, imho. As for the edge I mean - I can't exactly define it, but I know it when I hear it.

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Posted 20 July 2015 - 09:11 PM

James Bond 'Spectre' Theme: Who'd Be Brilliant And Who'd Be Disastrous?
 

 

http://www.nme.com/b...d-be-disastrous



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Posted 21 July 2015 - 04:22 AM

I'm wondering if they've simply gone with 'SPECTRE' as the song title, or the 'Nobody Does it Better', 'You Know My Name' route. 



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Posted 21 July 2015 - 06:06 AM

Or a third possibility, namely including the word "spectre" in the title? Hasn't happened before though. I remember last time, for a very brief period after that snippet from the theme was released, some thought that the SF song was titled "Let The Sky Fall". Of course, it wasn't. But I can see how a songwriter might want to weave the SPECTRE title into the song title. (Or into the song lyrics.)

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Posted 21 July 2015 - 07:12 AM

After all this speculation about who's singing the damn song what odds for an instrumental!?  :P



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Posted 21 July 2015 - 07:40 AM

An instrumental. Hasn't been done for decades. Might not be a bad idea, provided you get the right artiste(s) to do it.

 

Incidentally, was the Eric Clapton/Michael Kamen instrumental for what was then called "Licence Revoked" ever recorded? That might have been interesting.



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Posted 21 July 2015 - 07:48 AM

An instrumental. Hasn't been done for decades. Might not be a bad idea, provided you get the right artiste(s) to do it.

 

Incidentally, was the Eric Clapton/Michael Kamen instrumental for what was then called "Licence Revoked" ever recorded? That might have been interesting.

 

According to the Burlingame book, there was a session going on for one day which did not yield any results that were deemed successful - and I think it was not an instrumental but a a song.

 

And since Mendes has hinted that the "song" was recorded I don´t think it will be an instrumental either.  Also, the cross-promotional aspect of a Bond song will not allow for an instrumental anymore - it´s always about a "hot" artist that the label wants to push or milk in order to promote them and the Bond film.



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Posted 21 July 2015 - 08:24 AM

Or a third possibility, namely including the word "spectre" in the title? Hasn't happened before though. I remember last time, for a very brief period after that snippet from the theme was released, some thought that the SF song was titled "Let The Sky Fall". Of course, it wasn't. But I can see how a songwriter might want to weave the SPECTRE title into the song title. (Or into the song lyrics.)

That's what I was thinking too. It's probably easier done than having SPECTRE as a standalone title.

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Posted 21 July 2015 - 08:27 AM

 

An instrumental. Hasn't been done for decades. Might not be a bad idea, provided you get the right artiste(s) to do it.
 
Incidentally, was the Eric Clapton/Michael Kamen instrumental for what was then called "Licence Revoked" ever recorded? That might have been interesting.

 
According to the Burlingame book, there was a session going on for one day which did not yield any results that were deemed successful - and I think it was not an instrumental but a a song.

 


From Marc Roberty's book "Eric Clapton Complete Recording Sessions 1963 -1992" (he's the leading Clapton archivist):

"Eric's next session would have been fascinating - the James Bond Theme tune, for use in a Bond movie. However, due to various legal problems, it was not to be, and the resulting doomed recording was stored in the vaults for good:

7 Feb. 1989: Studio Sessions for 'License To Kill'
Townhouse Studios, London
- James Bond Theme"


Further information:
http://debrief.comma...flick/?p=824094



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Posted 21 July 2015 - 05:42 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk...ners-and-riders



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Posted 21 July 2015 - 06:06 PM

amazing how his "probably" in the actual interview has turned into "Definitely" in that list. Both where done by the BBC Radio (albeit different departments, the interview by 5 live, that list by Radio 1 newsbeat) so there's really no excuse.



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Posted 21 July 2015 - 09:57 PM

 

 

An instrumental. Hasn't been done for decades. Might not be a bad idea, provided you get the right artiste(s) to do it.
 
Incidentally, was the Eric Clapton/Michael Kamen instrumental for what was then called "Licence Revoked" ever recorded? That might have been interesting.

 
According to the Burlingame book, there was a session going on for one day which did not yield any results that were deemed successful - and I think it was not an instrumental but a a song.

 


From Marc Roberty's book "Eric Clapton Complete Recording Sessions 1963 -1992" (he's the leading Clapton archivist):

"Eric's next session would have been fascinating - the James Bond Theme tune, for use in a Bond movie. However, due to various legal problems, it was not to be, and the resulting doomed recording was stored in the vaults for good:

7 Feb. 1989: Studio Sessions for 'License To Kill'
Townhouse Studios, London
- James Bond Theme"


Further information:
http://debrief.comma...flick/?p=824094

 

 

Hopefully one of these days EON will allow this to be released.  For fans of both Bond and Clapton, this would be a real treat to hear.



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Posted 23 July 2015 - 02:28 AM

It would be awesomeif we got a big brass/trumpet heavy title song. Something like Surrender or Thunderball. We haven't had one of those in a long time. Enough with the heavy rock type songs. We've. Had 2 of those already. Lets get back to the classic big and sexy style!

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 09:13 PM

An instrumental. Hasn't been done for decades. Might not be a bad idea, provided you get the right artiste(s) to do it.
 
Incidentally, was the Eric Clapton/Michael Kamen instrumental for what was then called "Licence Revoked" ever recorded? That might have been interesting.

 
According to the Burlingame book, there was a session going on for one day which did not yield any results that were deemed successful - and I think it was not an instrumental but a a song.


From Marc Roberty's book "Eric Clapton Complete Recording Sessions 1963 -1992" (he's the leading Clapton archivist):

"Eric's next session would have been fascinating - the James Bond Theme tune, for use in a Bond movie. However, due to various legal problems, it was not to be, and the resulting doomed recording was stored in the vaults for good:

7 Feb. 1989: Studio Sessions for 'License To Kill'
Townhouse Studios, London
- James Bond Theme"


Further information:
http://debrief.comma...flick/?p=824094

 
Hopefully one of these days EON will allow this to be released.  For fans of both Bond and Clapton, this would be a real treat to hear.


I seem to recall John Cork saying that when he was given access to EON's archives for the documentaries, that this was off-limits even to him. Can't find his quote, 'tho. There's enough - too much - misinformation in the world of Bond so I don't want to unnecessarily add to it.

We also have another thread about this http://debrief.comma...tons-ltk-theme/I strongly advise people with even the slightest interest in this subject to give it a thorough read...

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 04:56 AM

We need a good 'LALD'-esque Bond theme for Craig, like 'YKMN'. Something with a sense of danger to it; urgency and excitement with a memorable rhythm.


IMO, the nature of the theme song should change according to the film itself. The elegic SKYFALL-tune was appropriate for the requiem-character of the story.

SPECTRE deserves a more sinister approach - "Thunderball" meets "Live and let die"...


Agreed. A triumphant, rocking approach would be perfect for this film. Unfortunately I think tdalton is probably right and we'll get either another ballad or a Shirley Bassey-esque number if the rumored artists are the ones to get the gig.

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 10:26 PM

Thunderball meets Live and Let Die sounds marvelous. No ballad this time, please! And could you bring Sir. Paul back as well? Or Tom Jones? Or Shirley? That would be a dream.



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Posted 25 July 2015 - 11:22 PM

I'm hoping for a propulsive, exciting theme that gets the blood going. The PTS from what we've seen looks to have some incredible action in it, and I want the momentum from that section to carry on through the titles before we settle down a bit to set things up for the remainder of the film.

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 02:56 AM

Expect it'll be a Basseyesque song, sung by Shirley Bassey.