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[Vauxhall]

Maybe they told him that, but realistically they wouldn't cast a relatively unknown German actor as the main Bond villain.

[JCRendle]

I wouldn't be surprised if they auditioned many actors, don't forget, they had 200 actors considered before Craig was cast as Bond.

[DamnCoffee]

Maybe they told him that, but realistically they wouldn't cast a relatively unknown German actor as the main Bond villain.

 

 

Possibly, but then again, why not? They might have auditioned him, and then seen his earlier stuff? Has anyone here seen him in anything? Maybe that could shed any light on his acting ability and performance. 

Edited by DamnCoffee, 26 January 2015 - 04:48 PM.

[# 11]

Now that's interesting. Rome could make sense if he's a henchman of sorts. Brazil is curious - but that could be an obvious replacement for Mexico if there were problems with that part of the shoot.

The article reads as if Brazil would be the substitute for Rome. So I guess they really are freaking out about the problems with the Italians.

And yes, I think this film is doomed. Too many issues already.

[stromberg]

Maybe they told him that, but realistically they wouldn't cast a relatively unknown German actor as the main Bond villain.

Gert Fröbe wasn't exactly an international household name when they cast him as Goldfinger. Nobody had heard of Andreas Wisniewski (Necros) or Götz Otto (Stamper) before, not even in Germany. Sometimes it's really funny how they seem to cast German actors. There were loads of them in CR for example, and the casting seems a bit odd: Ludger Pistor (Mendel) - well known actor at home, a small but memorable role. Clemens Schick (Kratt) - one of Le Chiffre's main henchmen (event hough he didn't have much to do or say): nobody heard of him before, he was a theatre actor. And his career didn't exactly lift off after CR. Veruschka von Lehndorf (poker player) - she was a supermodell in the early 1970's, long forgotten before that. Richard Sammel (Gettler) - hardly known in Germany, most of his career took place in France. Jürgen Tarrach (tourist with the car) - he's a huge name in Germany, we even discussed wether he could be Le Chiffre, he ended up with some 10 seconds screen time....

 

Detlef Bothe - we briefly discussed him in the Austria thread... The name meant nothing to me, but the face seemed familiar when I looked him up. Seen him here and there in German TV productions. Solid actor who likes to play bad guys (because it's more challenging). His friends kept saying for more than 15 years that he'd certainly make a good Bond villain.

 

Personally, I'd be carfull with this article. It's from BZ (Berliner Zeitung), which is one of the worst tabloid rugs. We don't know what they invented around the tiny bits he was allowed to talk about.

[Shrublands]

I for one do not believe it. There was never a wide casting search for Oberhauser - it was always Christoph Waltz.

 

This actor has given this publication a few quotes and they have sensationalised it. 

[Harmsway]

Brazil instead of Rome would be an interesting switch (and probably doable, though it would make Belucci's casting/character a bit out of place). Interesting to see whether this rumor amounts to anything.

[Walecs]

well, I guess I would still take it with a grain of salt. Couldn't find anything about this story in Italian media (at least the online ones) over the last week... Any of our Italian friends here know more?

There's plenty of articles in italian (such as this one: http://www.bestmovie...a-roma/348435/)

 

It's really a shame, anyway, not to say ridicolous. I understand everything but denying filming because of a ghost. I really hope that this won't affect the movie in a bad way.

 

[Harmsway]

Bond films usually encounter challenges of this sort. I'm sure the SPECTRE team will find ways to cope.

[The Dove]

Once again..."Keep Calm and Trust In Bond"...

[Kamran.Shah]

 

well, I guess I would still take it with a grain of salt. Couldn't find anything about this story in Italian media (at least the online ones) over the last week... Any of our Italian friends here know more?

There's plenty of articles in italian (such as this one: http://www.bestmovie...a-roma/348435/)

 

It's really a shame, anyway, not to say ridicolous. I understand everything but denying filming because of a ghost. I really hope that this won't affect the movie in a bad way.

rro

Thanks Walecs. However, all 7 articles I could find in Italian (by searching for "James Bond" and "Roma" via google news) were actually quoting the Mirror Story... I still couldn't find any original reporting from Italy pre-dating the Mirror Story. Which is one of the reasons why I do not buy it...

[Walecs]

 

 

well, I guess I would still take it with a grain of salt. Couldn't find anything about this story in Italian media (at least the online ones) over the last week... Any of our Italian friends here know more?

There's plenty of articles in italian (such as this one: http://www.bestmovie...a-roma/348435/)

 

It's really a shame, anyway, not to say ridicolous. I understand everything but denying filming because of a ghost. I really hope that this won't affect the movie in a bad way.

rro

Thanks Walecs. However, all 7 articles I could find in Italian (by searching for "James Bond" and "Roma" via google news) were actually quoting the Mirror Story... I still couldn't find any original reporting from Italy pre-dating the Mirror Story. Which is one of the reasons why I do not buy it...

 

You're right. I'll keep an eye on television and newspapers and will make you know. So far I haven't heard anything.

[Vauxhall]

I think this film is doomed. Too many issues already.

Really? Every recent Bond film has hit fairly sizeable bumps in the road, and we're nowhere near QUANTUM OF SOLACE levels of chaos yet.

The hacking issues blew over very quickly, and most of these reports from Rome appear barely credible and minor inconveniences until we know otherwise.

Not withstanding all of that, by all accounts there's a very strong script (not the old details featured in the leaks), and a top quality cast. Plenty of reason to be cheerful in my opinion.

[glidrose]

Perhaps those here with a background in film production can advise, but is it common for such a production to hit such obstacles as Spectre has so far? They had the bad luck with the weather in Austria, now this kerfuffle over a bridge in Rome. It just seems that the film makers are having to overcome one problem after another to get the film made. And never mind the major problem of those leaks!
 
So, has Spectre just hit a rotten run of luck, and if so, is it the kind of thing that can bedevil any film?

 
Absolutely! This is comparatively minor stuff, btw.
 
Remember the monks' protest in FYEO? That actually went to the Greek Supreme Court.

And I think Barbara Broccoli said that Russian Mafia types disrupted local filming at gunpoint on Goldeneye, wouldn't let production resume until they were paid a truckload of money.

[The Dove]

I also thought I heard somewhere that during filming in Harlem for LALD, the production had to pay protection money to one of the gangs there in order to film safely..

[stromberg]

And didn't we have a local mayor crashing into the set of QoS with his car in Bolivia? And don't forget, Daniel Craig can't drive stick shift... 

 

They still print everything these days.

[glidrose]

And of course don't forget the time they couldn't get Pierce Brosnan for The Living Daylights!

Seriously tho', are people's memories so short that they forget, I dunno, CR'67, NSNA, TND? Now those were truly troubled productions. I recall a quote somewhere from some technicians on TND who said to this day it's a wonder that film even finished shooting, given all the production turmoil, script problems, animosity between producers, actors, writers and the director.

[JCRendle]

And of course don't forget the time they couldn't get Pierce Brosnan for The Living Daylights!

Seriously tho', are people's memories so short that they forget, I dunno, CR'67, NSNA, TND? Now those were truly troubled productions. I recall a quote somewhere from some technicians on TND who said to this day it's a wonder that film even finished shooting, given all the production turmoil, script problems, animosity between producers, actors, writers and the director.

 

This man, he makes a good point!

[Robinson]

I also thought I heard somewhere that during filming in Harlem for LALD, the production had to pay protection money to one of the gangs there in order to film safely..

I heard that happened when filming "The Warriors" back in '78!

To me, the most distressing issue that can plague a production is the lack of a finished script. Too many productions work towards a a release date or have a start date without a completed script. You spend time trying to literally fill in the blanks and to create something not found on the page. This crippled "Alien 3" and it hobbled QOS.

I think SPECTRE will be fine. Sometimes you get permission to shoot somewhere and later, the permission is rescinded. A production of this size has the ability to adapt and find alternate locations. That's why the secondary audio commentaries on Bond films with the other crew members is so interesting. You get to hear how they improvise and make things work. I'm sure we'll hear some interesting things for Spectre's Blu-Ray commentary.

[The Dove]

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Apparently Rome is not totally abandoned.. The lovely Brigitte Millar is joining the cast, in a villainous role, and will be shooting at Pinewood and in Rome..

[Shrublands]

Our friend, the very reliable Marketto, has been in touch with his official sources and there are no plans to shoot any of SPECTRE Brazil.

[sharpshooter]

Bond films usually encounter challenges of this sort. I'm sure the SPECTRE team will find ways to cope.

Yep. Bond films have encountered roadblocks in the past and the team have always adapted to the situation and persevered.

[JCRendle]

[Vauxhall]

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Apparently Rome is not totally abandoned.. The lovely Brigitte Millar is joining the cast, in a villainous role, and will be shooting at Pinewood and in Rome..

 

Original report from her agents: http://international...new-james-bond/

 

I don't imagine she'll have a particularly major role, so perhaps one of the villainous organisation's rank and file members.

[Luigi Ferrari]

http://www.bestmovie...apitale/348571/
http://www.tvzoom.it...ampa&Itemid=374

 

Updates from Italy.
After last week's rumors  reporting that  protests by religious activists  were causing trouble for obtaining the permission of filming on the  Ponte Sisto bridge,  the details of the agreement between the Municipality of Rome and the producers of 007 are now surfacing.
The city administration has granted the permission to film in the capital: the production will have to adapt to the strict regulations for the protection of monuments, and in favor of the city will enter 15 million  € .
The agreement also provides the opportunity for students in the Experimental Center of Cinematography to visit the set during filming and to be involved in the making of the film.
Finally, the city will also be given away, for the purpose of promoting tourism, 30 seconds of aerial shots signed by Sam Mendes and has also been granted permission to project in some cinemas owned by the Municipality the documentary "Everything or Nothing "made in 2012 to celebrate 50 years of  cinematic James Bond.
As for the chase scene along Via delle Quattro Fontane, whose authorization was previously denied, there may be a partial reconsideration by the city administration: the scene will be filmed, only without the sequence of the car jump at the intersection, which is considered too risky for the Baroque monument. During the shooting the restoration scaffolding will be removed from the fountains.
It is now up to the producers to decide whether to cut  the location at all or modify it.

[The Dove]

Very interesting! Thanks for the info, Luigi!

[JCRendle]

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[JCRendle]

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[Vauxhall]

Thanks Luigi, great to have clearer information about the Quattro Fontane issues. Sure they'll reach a useful compromise.

[sharpshooter]

It's likely we'll watch the sequence and unless otherwise told, wouldn't have known issues arose during filming.