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[dee-bee-five]

Easily the best season of revamped Who so far. RTD is the most original and accomplished writer workng in British TV at the moment and the finale showed why. It's a real pity he's moving on.

At least, at least we still have David Tennant, who's established himself as the finest Doctor; better even - and I never thought I'd hear myself saying this - Jon Pertwee (Tom Baker, for me, is the Sean Connery of Who: everyone thinks he's the best only because they hear everyone else saying he's the best and it's so much easier to go along with the herd).

Edited by dee-bee-five, 08 July 2008 - 08:20 AM.

[David Schofield]

At least, at least we still have David Tennant, who's established himself as the finest Doctor; better even - and I never thought I'd hear myself saying this - Jon Pertwee (Tom Baker, for me, is the Sean Connery of Who: everyone thinks he's the best only because they hear everyone else saying he's the best and it's so much easier to go along with the herd).

Certainly, Pertwee is Connery.
McCann is Lazenby, for obvious reasons.
Eccleston is Dalton - not 100% confortable in the role, perhaps believing it really was beneath him.
Tennant has to be Brosnan: a more capable actor than at first sight, given some really dreadful storylines, and yet hugely successful and popular.

However, I can't help but think DW needs its Daniel Craig, and needs him now. David Morrissey could be the perfect "Who-by-Craig-as-Bond".

[dee-bee-five]

At least, at least we still have David Tennant, who's established himself as the finest Doctor; better even - and I never thought I'd hear myself saying this - Jon Pertwee (Tom Baker, for me, is the Sean Connery of Who: everyone thinks he's the best only because they hear everyone else saying he's the best and it's so much easier to go along with the herd).

Certainly, Pertwee is Connery.
McCann is Lazenby, for obvious reasons.
Eccleston is Dalton - not 100% confortable in the role, perhaps believing it really was beneath him.
Tennant has to be Brosnan: a more capable actor than at first sight, given some really dreadful storylines, and yet hugely successful and popular.

However, I can't help but think DW needs its Daniel Craig, and needs him now. David Morrissey could be the perfect "Who-by-Craig-as-Bond".

I must say, I believe Who already has its Daniel Craig in David Tennant. And I can't really think of any really dreadful storylines he's been given. Surely those of who watched Who since the 60s and endured the dross it became from the late 70s (Baker's third season, really) to '89, should embrace the quality of the revival. To all those who complain about the new series, I wish on them endless re-runs of The Happiness Patrol...

[baerrtt]

At least, at least we still have David Tennant, who's established himself as the finest Doctor; better even - and I never thought I'd hear myself saying this - Jon Pertwee (Tom Baker, for me, is the Sean Connery of Who: everyone thinks he's the best only because they hear everyone else saying he's the best and it's so much easier to go along with the herd).

Certainly, Pertwee is Connery.
McCann is Lazenby, for obvious reasons.
Eccleston is Dalton - not 100% confortable in the role, perhaps believing it really was beneath him.
Tennant has to be Brosnan: a more capable actor than at first sight, given some really dreadful storylines, and yet hugely successful and popular.

However, I can't help but think DW needs its Daniel Craig, and needs him now. David Morrissey could be the perfect "Who-by-Craig-as-Bond".

I must say, I believe Who already has its Daniel Craig in David Tennant. And I can't really think of any really dreadful storylines he's been given. Surely those of who watched Who since the 60s and endured the dross it became from the late 70s (Baker's third season, really) to '89, should embrace the quality of the revival. To all those who complain about the new series, I wish on them endless re-runs of The Happiness Patrol...

QFT (I'm rather fond of typing this nowadays ). After his performances alone in HUMAN NATURE/FAMILY OF BLOOD, MIDNIGHT(from this season), THE DOCTOR'S DAUGHTER etc anyone claiming that Tennant is the Pierce Brosnan of WHO is having a laugh and is biased against him because he's 'pretty'.

Like Craig is to Bond DT is, irrespective of his take's level of 'gravitas', one of the few ACTORS the role of the Doctor has acquired (Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker were great but beyond shouting convincingly, and in Tom's case his comedic timing/acting, they certainly didn't approach the role as an 'acting' part being limited dramatic perfromers themselves).

Like Craig (with the BAFTA nom and Evening Standard Award) Tennant holds the unprecedented feat of actually getting a Best Actor nom for playing the Doctor (for Series 3) from the Royal Television Society and if people believe the role was better off when it was an archetype played by comedians and entertainers who the old Whovians excuse because they fit their limited ideas of what the Doctor should be (a middle aged, not very attractive man) like Pertwee and Sylvester Mccoy for example helping foster the public perception that the character/show wasn't to be taken seriously by the minds of the public just as the casting of Moore and a non actor like Lazenby created the same for Bond they should stick to watching reruns/repeats of those serials.

[Brian Flagg]

Does the R1 DVD release of S1 and S2 keep the pop songs heard in the transmissions? S1 features Soft Cell's "Tainted Love" and Glenn Miller's "Moonlight Serenade." Are the songs in the episodes as seen on the DVDs?

[dee-bee-five]

At least, at least we still have David Tennant, who's established himself as the finest Doctor; better even - and I never thought I'd hear myself saying this - Jon Pertwee (Tom Baker, for me, is the Sean Connery of Who: everyone thinks he's the best only because they hear everyone else saying he's the best and it's so much easier to go along with the herd).

Certainly, Pertwee is Connery.
McCann is Lazenby, for obvious reasons.
Eccleston is Dalton - not 100% confortable in the role, perhaps believing it really was beneath him.
Tennant has to be Brosnan: a more capable actor than at first sight, given some really dreadful storylines, and yet hugely successful and popular.

However, I can't help but think DW needs its Daniel Craig, and needs him now. David Morrissey could be the perfect "Who-by-Craig-as-Bond".

I must say, I believe Who already has its Daniel Craig in David Tennant. And I can't really think of any really dreadful storylines he's been given. Surely those of who watched Who since the 60s and endured the dross it became from the late 70s (Baker's third season, really) to '89, should embrace the quality of the revival. To all those who complain about the new series, I wish on them endless re-runs of The Happiness Patrol...

QFT (I'm rather fond of typing this nowadays ). After his performances alone in HUMAN NATURE/FAMILY OF BLOOD, MIDNIGHT(from this season), THE DOCTOR'S DAUGHTER etc anyone claiming that Tennant is the Pierce Brosnan of WHO is having a laugh and is biased against him because he's 'pretty'.

Like Craig is to Bond DT is, irrespective of his take's level of 'gravitas', one of the few ACTORS the role of the Doctor has acquired (Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker were great but beyond shouting convincingly, and in Tom's case his comedic timing/acting, they certainly didn't approach the role as an 'acting' part being limited dramatic perfromers themselves).

Like Craig (with the BAFTA nom and Evening Standard Award) Tennant holds the unprecedented feat of actually getting a Best Actor nom for playing the Doctor (for Series 3) from the Royal Television Society and if people believe the role was better off when it was an archetype played by comedians and entertainers who the old Whovians excuse because they fit their limited ideas of what the Doctor should be (a middle aged, not very attractive man) like Pertwee and Sylvester Mccoy for example helping foster the public perception that the character/show wasn't to be taken seriously by the minds of the public just as the casting of Moore and a non actor like Lazenby created the same for Bond they should stick to watching reruns/repeats of those serials.

As David Tennant's Doctor might say, "Oh yes!"

I quite agree, although I think Pertwee was, perhaps, a better actor than you're allowing. His sadness at Jo's departure at the conclusion of The Green Death was breathtakingly simple and understated. What he couldn't do, though, was hide his lack of interest in substandard scripts. Tom Baker's first two seasons were terrific. But then self-indulgence set in dreadfully and no-one seemed inclined to rein him in.

Who fans of my age (I've watched since the Troughton years) always assume I favour the so-called "classic" years of 1963-89 and abhor RTD's revival. Well, I don't. I'm always happy to embrace the new and acknowledge when something is better. And, while I will always regard the Pertwee years highly, I believe the new series, particularly with Tennant, is light years ahead of what went before in every department.

Edited by dee-bee-five, 15 July 2008 - 03:02 PM.

[Mr. Blofeld]

What about Troughton? Nobody likes Troughton?

[Safari Suit]

What about Troughton? Nobody likes Troughton?

My mum does.

I would just like to say for the record that infamous Kandy Man character or whatever he's called is scary. It's the eyes!

[dee-bee-five]

What about Troughton? Nobody likes Troughton?

I like Troughton; I'd certainly rate him above Tom Baker. Trouble is, the bloody BBC wiped so many of his eps, he remains almost unknown to many viewers.

For the record that infamous Kandy Man character or whatever he's called is scary. It's the eyes!

He scared me - but only because he was representative of everything that had gone wrong with the show by then. That character and that story were, probably, the nadir.

Edited by dee-bee-five, 22 July 2008 - 09:46 AM.

[Brian Flagg]

Anyone else read About Time 4: The Unauthorized Guide to Doctor Who (About Time; The Unauthorized Guide to Dr. Who? I got this yesterday and it's an excellent, detailed work on the bulk of the Tom Baker era (1975-79) that covers everything. I especially liked the cultural/political events that the authors mention that took place during those years, as well as the British pop culture stuff I know nothing about! Too bad that About Time 3 is out of print...

http://tinyurl.com/56yz48

[danslittlefinger]

What about Troughton? Nobody likes Troughton?

I like watching him although I didn't catch the original showings (before my time)...I just love the whole 60's feel to it and to think his son carried on the tradition in "The Curse of Peladon" and most recently an episode, when they're in the plane...can't think of it now.

Pertwee and Baker were my time really. Can't beat Pertwee though, loved him.

Edited by danslittlefinger, 26 July 2008 - 04:05 PM.

[DamnCoffee]

What about Troughton? Nobody likes Troughton?

Troughton is rather cool. I love him in The Tomb of the Cybermen. I havent seen him in anything else, I dont think anyway.

[Royal Dalton]

I absolutely love Pat Troughton. He's my joint favourite Doctor Who, alongside Mad Tom.

He was a wonderful actor, and not just as Doctor Who. I was really upset when I heard he'd died. Strangely enough, they were showing Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger on the telly at the time.

[Brian Flagg]

Does the R1 DVD release of S1 and S2 keep the pop songs heard in the transmissions? S1 features Soft Cell's "Tainted Love" and Glenn Miller's "Moonlight Serenade." Are the songs in the episodes as seen on the DVDs?

To answer my own question: Yes, the music is kept on the R1 DVD release. As a fan of TV DVDs, it's always a milagrito when things like the original songs are not removed from their DVD releases.

...and Christopher Eccleston grooving to "Tainted Love" is for me, one pretty funny moment.

...And I think of David Tennant as the Roger Moore of Doctor Who, as no one seems to have enjoyed playing the character as much as those two did for each of their respective characters. Tennant lacks Eccleston's and Tom Baker's "ambivalence" and I think it's refreshing that Tennant has embraced the role during his tenure.

It's good to see this series back in action again. I hope the youngsters out there in CBn-land are enjoying it and hope they look to the classic series, as well.

[ImTheMoneypenny]

What about Troughton? Nobody likes Troughton?

Troughton is rather cool. I love him in The Tomb of the Cybermen. I havent seen him in anything else, I dont think anyway.

I did a whole series of something like 8 paintings in film cannisters based on The Tomb of The Cybermen, turned out fantastic but the guy who commissioned them for sale, really cheated me on the money. I did get a photo of the paintings signed by Frazer Hines. And I got one of the paintings back as a friend bought only two of the set, she kept her favourite of Troughton.

I did one last series, The Ice Warriors for the guy because that time he paid in advance. I left my name off the front of the paintings however. Even though I'm proud of the series I didn't want copyright heat coming down on me. He wanted to send the paintings to Doctor Who Magazine and that was a little too much corporate attention for my tastes.

I have prints of other of my works, signed by Sylvester McCoy, Paul McGann, and Colin Baker.

Of non Doctor Who films, I love Troughton in Olivier's Richard III. He sure knows how to make an entrance!

[ImTheMoneypenny]

Anyone else read About Time 4: The Unauthorized Guide to Doctor Who (About Time; The Unauthorized Guide to Dr. Who? I got this yesterday and it's an excellent, detailed work on the bulk of the Tom Baker era (1975-79) that covers everything. I especially liked the cultural/political events that the authors mention that took place during those years, as well as the British pop culture stuff I know nothing about! Too bad that About Time 3 is out of print...

http://tinyurl.com/56yz48

I have About Time 4. It's a great book!

I have the Doctor Who book that's all jokes and cartoons I can't remember what it's called off the top of my head suddenly anyway, got it signed by a whole slew of actors they had a good time laughing at it too.

[Brian Flagg]

Anyone else read About Time 4: The Unauthorized Guide to Doctor Who (About Time; The Unauthorized Guide to Dr. Who? I got this yesterday and it's an excellent, detailed work on the bulk of the Tom Baker era (1975-79) that covers everything. I especially liked the cultural/political events that the authors mention that took place during those years, as well as the British pop culture stuff I know nothing about! Too bad that About Time 3 is out of print...

http://tinyurl.com/56yz48

I have About Time 4. It's a great book!

I have the Doctor Who book that's all jokes and cartoons I can't remember what it's called off the top of my head suddenly anyway, got it signed by a whole slew of actors they had a good time laughing at it too.

ABOUT TIME #3 is oop, but is due for republishing sometime this year. I want the whole series.

Doctor Who, until 2005 was virtually unknown in the US. In 1980, when I was nine, none of my friends liked the show because it was "too British." That and the fact that the Doctor wasn't blowing away his enemies with a 12-gauge shotgun. So I had to love the show by myself! As I mentiined earlier, I had written to Sladen and received a nice autographed pic in return. It impresses me still that Lis Sladen and Tom Baker weren't "too big" to personally autograph (and spell my name correctly!) and send a nice pic to this-then nine-year-old American fan of Doctor Who. Classy. That's when I became an Anglophile. (along with my James Bond obsession). I recall writing to Miss Sladen, "say hello to Harry [Ian Marter] for me"! I loved that show which used to air on PBS every weeknight at 6pm. I was devastated when Tom Baker left!

Edited by Brian Flagg, 11 August 2008 - 02:59 PM.

[DamnCoffee]

Tate keen on 'Doctor Who' return

Catherine Tate is keen to reprise her role as departed companion Donna Noble in a future series of Doctor Who.

The actress, who left the show at the end of the recent fourth season finale, told Doctor Who Magazine: "I knew that there would definitely be an end to Donna, at the end of the series.

"But had that not been the case, had it been open-ended, had there been potential for Donna to stay on for another series, I must confess that I'd have said 'yes' like a shot."

Despite Donna's mind being wiped in 'Journey's End', Tate added: "Could Donna come back? Well, in science fiction, anything is possible."

[DamnCoffee]

I've found this on Youtube.

Quantum of Christmas - Doctor Who/Quantum of Solace Pardoy Trailer:





OMG

Dr Who Heading To The Big Screen?

24 August 2008 7:12 AM, PDT

Cult British sci-fi series Doctor Who is heading back to cinemas for the first time in more than 40 years, according to a writer on the hit show.

Steven Moffat, who pens the scripts for the BBC series, insists that producers are eyeing another big screen version of the programme - which currently stars Scottish actor David Tennant in the lead role.

The show first became a movie in 1965 in Dr. Who and the Daleks, which was followed a year later (1966) by Daleks. Invasion Earth: 2150 AD.

And Moffat admits that he will back plans to bring the Time Lord back to the big screen once again.

He says, "I would say yes, as long as it never gets in the way of the show. It would be great to see it at the cinema. It's been there before so it would be good to see it again.

"A movie is 90 minutes, that's not that different from making a single episode, so I'm not against it."

[Brian Flagg]

I just got the DVD of Genesis of the Daleks and was impressed all over again with Davros, whose threatening rants and calm, committed rationalizations still resonate with me as an adult viewer just as it did on a "scary" level to me as a nine-year-old watching this episode back in 1980. Sure, the "epic" part of the story is somewhat lost with the low budget sets but my imagination (and the novelization!) fill in those blanks anyway.

Michael Wisher! He was as perfect a villain as Davros as I've ever seen in a Doctor Who story and they really should have left him dead after Genesis, as he was never as effective when played by other actors.


Another thing I like about the Genesis DVD is the PDF document of the 1976 Annual. Annuals are great, especially during this time frame, when every British show seemed to publish a fun annual. Too bad American shows didn't have such things. The 1976 Doctor Who Annual is simply bee-yoo-tee-full.

[danslittlefinger]

Another Way To Die - Dr Who


http://www.youtube.c...feature=related


Saw this and thought I'd post it...

Edited by danslittlefinger, 28 September 2008 - 09:01 PM.

[DamnCoffee]

WOW. Great editing. I noticed that the AWTD theme has a different ending.

[danslittlefinger]

WOW. Great editing. I noticed that the AWTD theme has a different ending.

Yes I hear that..I was impressed by this and thought you would get a kick..

[_Ozu_]

I've heard that Tennant is definitely in for the fifth series, and the deal for series 6 would include the movie.

I hope this is true and we get a Doctor Who movie on 2011 with an older and darker Tennant (and given the fact that Doctor Who is going to air on some spanish channels and will be on sale on DVD from November...who knows...maybe this time we'll see it, as the McGann one wasn't even dubbed).

Oh, by the way, it seems like the Xmas Special has a title: 'The Next Doctor'

[trs007]

I thought the Xmas special was to be called

Spoiler

Return of the Cybermen

? According to Gallifrey One, now there is no mention of the above characters--but does confirm the title. Interesting viewing for after we've had our fill of QoS.

[Zorin Industries]

I thought the Xmas special was to be called

Spoiler

Return of the Cybermen

? According to Gallifrey One, now there is no mention of the above characters--but does confirm the title. Interesting viewing for after we've had our fill of QoS.

Yes - the Christmas episode is indeed called that. And I know why - but better not say here.

[Safari Suit]

I thought the Xmas special was to be called

Spoiler

Return of the Cybermen

? According to Gallifrey One, now there is no mention of the above characters--but does confirm the title. Interesting viewing for after we've had our fill of QoS.

Yes - the Christmas episode is indeed called that. And I know why - but better not say here.

Is it because

Spoiler

they return?

[Royal Dalton]

It's called 'The Next Doctor' according to a recent BBC press release.

Doctor Who will return to BBC One this Christmas in The Next Doctor and filming resumes early in 2009 on a number of specials, followed by series five.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...er/23/who.shtml

[Zorin Industries]

I thought the Xmas special was to be called

Spoiler

Return of the Cybermen

? According to Gallifrey One, now there is no mention of the above characters--but does confirm the title. Interesting viewing for after we've had our fill of QoS.

Yes - the Christmas episode is indeed called that. And I know why - but better not say here.

Is it because

Spoiler

they return?

You got me!

No - I was referring to the other title.

[sharpshooter]

Tennant is to leave Doctor Who.

http://uk.reuters.co...E49T2BW20081030

He still may have a few more appearances left, but I'm disappointed. He was the best Doctor in my view. The 11th Doctor has a tough act to follow.