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[SecretAgentFan]

My money is still on Adele, with a deal already in place for months or even years.  

 

It will all coincide with her comeback album in the fall.

[x007AceOfSpades]

My money is still on Adele, with a deal already in place for months or even years.  

 

It will all coincide with her comeback album in the fall.

That would seem the more likely and safer route to go.

 

Still holding out for Lana Del Rey.

[SecretAgentFan]

According to Jon Burlingame´s chapter on SKYFALL, the choice of Adele had been made a year before SKYFALL´s release, and the song´s demo had been worked on in the first five months of 2012, with Adele´s vocals locked in May, and with input of Sam Mendes as to how the song should evolve.  Newman and his orchestrator added elements of the orchestration during the recording of the score at the end of August.

 

So, it´s highly possible that SPECTRE´s title song is being recorded right now ;-)

[sharpshooter]

Yeah. If it's a good tune, hopefully Newman can incorporate more of the melody into the score, too.

[SecretAgentFan]

I wonder why it was so hard for Newman to incorporate it when the song was actually basically finished long before the score was recorded.

 

Also according to that chapter (yes, I´m reading it right now and can´t help blabbering on about it) Newman had written a lush theme for SKYFALL that was not used in the score.  Maybe he can use it for SPECTRE.

[Franz Oberhauser]

I definitely want shirley bassey to com back.

[marktmurphy]

I wonder why it was so hard for Newman to incorporate it when the song was actually basically finished long before the score was recorded.

 

 

 

It wasn't, was it? That's why he did.

 

Arnold used bits of Another Way to Die and ignored DAD (not sure of the timeline of that one) but gave neither a nice full statement like Skyfall got. Barry was the best at using someone else's music; it's often hard to remember that he didn't write From Russia, so well is it integrated.

[SecretAgentFan]

The one track for SKYFALL (Bond on his way to the casino) was only an afterthought.  Newman´s score was not built around this theme at all.

[Alexedward]

it is got to be "Adele" for sure, she has done a great job with Skyfall theme and deserve yet another chance! I have also read here   http://jbsuits.com/b...ames-bond-theme that she already flown to Los Angeles few months back to share his ideas regarding the new theme, it would be great.. 

Edited by Alexedward, 11 May 2015 - 09:03 PM.

[The Dove]

Are we so sure that Sam Smith should get the gig?? LMAO!! (Ok it's fake but very funny!)

[quantumofsolace]

http://www.dailystar...me-song-Spectre

 

http://www.mirror.co...-singer-5797371

[x007AceOfSpades]

Safe choice if true.

[Agent 76]

I will be pleased if this is true. 

[The Dove]

Excellent news, if indeed it proves to be true!!

[tdalton]

Hopefully this article is false.

[Guy Haines]

I wouldn't object if true - Skyfall one of my favourite Bond themes, Adele one of best performers imho. But to me it seems unlikely. It might smack of desperation on the part of the film makers - "We're making a film just like Skyfall, right down to the theme tune", if you see what I mean. They don't have to do that.

 

That said, they might have hit a brick wall regarding who else might do the job, or might want to. You never know.

 

One caveat - this is from a red top British tabloid. Accuracy not a strong point in my experience (Back in 1998 the Daily Star "predicted" that TWINE's villain would be Sharon Stone, her sidekick would be Ewan McGregor - playing 007's long lost illegitimate son! - and the title song would be performed by "Sporty" from the Spice Girls!)

[dirtymind]

Never change a winning team.

[tdalton]

"We're making a film just like Skyfall, right down to the theme tune", if you see what I mean. They don't have to do that.

 

 

They don't have to, but I can't say I'd be surprised if they decided to do that.  Skyfall made over a billion dollars.  It would be tempting for EON to churn out a carbon copy of that film.  Hopefully they don't, though.  There are a lot of elements in Skyfall that they could improve upon, the title song being one of the main ones.

[HoneyDiamond]

There are a lot of elements in Skyfall that they could improve upon, the title song being one of the main ones.

 

It's hard to improve on one of the series' best songs.  I think they have the opposite problem, where people are naturally going to compare a new Adele song to Skyfall.  Tough shoes to fill. 

[tdalton]

It would be hard to improve on one of the series' best songs.  But, it shouldn't be hard to improve on "Skyfall".  

[Pierceuhhh]

Remember when each Bond movie had its own look and feel and personality?

Or even when they didn't, they were at least recycling stuff from a decade or two earlier, rather than just a movie or two?

Bring back Saltzman!

Edited by Pierceuhhh, 31 May 2015 - 02:32 AM.

[Harmsway]

Skyfall didn't have a bad song, just a very safe one.

 

I'm not thrilled that Adele will be back, but better her than Sam Smith. Hopefully she takes more risks with her song for Spectre.

[SecretAgentFan]

It´s very likely because

 

a) she is a mega star

b ) she is going to release her next album in the fall which would be a great opportunity for crossmedial advertising

c) she has won the Oscar and tons of other prizes for "Skyfall" and with Mendes back at the helm he´ll want her back, too

d) the time table is similar to "Skyfall", with Adele doing a demo at the beginning of the year and the main track in May

 

I agree with Harmsway that "Skyfall" was a very safe one - and I´m definitely hoping for a more interesting song this time.

[tdalton]

I guess I'll once again have to invest in a good pair of earplugs or, as a tribute to Connery, some earmuffs.

[Shrublands]

With this being from the Daily Star, I'm inclined to dismiss it immediately. 

The thing that gives me pause is that the writer, James Ingham, claims to have "sources close to Adele". well he may or may not be telling the truth there.

But, two weeks ago he had another supposed Adele scoop and again claimed "sources in her camp". That time he wrote about Adele insisting on some rerecording of her new album at Metropolis studios in Chiswick where she recorded a lot of 21, even though the recording had been completed to the record label's satisfaction. 

 

So i'm thinking, either Ingham keeps making the same false claim or he indeed has a source who has provided him with info on a few occasions.  It will be interesting to see the rest of the press respond to this. I'm not talking about the publications who just rehash this story, but the ones who will get onto their own sources and attempt to take it further with a denial or confirmation. 

[Guy Haines]

Re; Adele, Skyfall and "safe" - depends what you mean, I guess. I like Skyfall because to me it sounds like it belongs in a Bond film, right down to the bars from the Monty Norman theme included after the first chorus. Before it was released I posted here that I hoped there would be a nod towards Norman, and there was.

 

These days some classic Bond themes would be considered "safe" - GF, TB, even LALD - a song where risks were taken, but it worked. It is about getting the right song and the right performer.

 

( GF is, of course, still performed 50+ years on. And by way of a personal anecdote - put it down to Adele's popularity by all means - "Skyfall" gets played every week at "open mic" night in my local. And a friend of mine who is by no means a Bond fan loves the song.)

[SecretAgentFan]

I used the word "safe" because the song IMO is a classic ballad, uses the Bond theme and is song by one of the most successful and popular artists around (back then, in 2012 at least).

 

"Safe" in that regard, of course, does not automatically equal bad or uninspired.

 

I do like the song - but IMHO its melody is too simple, it does not even put Adele´s vocal range to good use, and the whole construction stays within tight limits when it should have been more passionate, surprising and different.

 

Again, that´s just my two cents.  In my personal preference, Chris Cornell´s "You know my name" took bigger chances and made a better fit with the film.

 

One might argue that the kind of "requiem"-like tone of "Skyfall" corresponds with Bond´s fate after the PTS and the last act.  But still, it did not capture me like previous Bond songs.

[tdalton]

Re; Adele, Skyfall and "safe" - depends what you mean, I guess. I like Skyfall because to me it sounds like it belongs in a Bond film, right down to the bars from the Monty Norman theme included after the first chorus. 

 

That, to me, is the very definition of "safe".  "Skyfall" feels very much like a cookie-cutter or assembly-line Bond song, picking out the various things that make a Bond song a "Bond song" with the proverbial capital "B" and runs with it.  

 

I wouldn't have liked the song even if it were performed by someone else, but Adele's involvement certainly didn't help it in my book.  But, it's just not a good song.  Someone else could have possibly done something a bit more interesting with it, but at it's core it's just pastiche at best.  

[Guy Haines]

Including the bars from the Monty Norman theme was appropriate given the anniversary, I think. It's something that hadn't happened for a while - not since the 60s, save for that little bit in "GoldenEye". I don't think there was anything wrong with including a nod to the original theme.

 

As it happens I think I do prefer Chris Cornell's "You Know My Name" - again a throwback of a kind because we hadn't had a solo male artiste performing the main theme for decades. Was that a "safe" option, I wonder? With its rock emphasis, on the face of it no. Yet to me it still sounded like a Bond theme.

 

And that's really all I'm after for "Spectre" - a "Bond" theme for a Bond film. They don't all sound like "Goldfinger" or "Skyfall", but the best all sound as if they belong. You know it when you hear it.  What I'd rather not have - in the name of being "different" - is a tune which sounds like a typical off the shelf rendering from a particular artiste, with a few "Bond" touches bolted on. Which is the risk if the film makers prefer to go with the artiste rather than the film.

[S K Y F A L L]

Why rush a return? Adele has a long career a head of her. I wont be surprised if she matchs or passes Bassey's number of performances. 

 

I also thought SF was a safe title song, nothing really stood out to me. I rather listen to her other successful songs but what do I know they won an Oscar right?... I'm sure she'll really let whale* on her next go.

 

I would love if Adele did an ending credits song for SP also.