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#91 thecasinoroyale

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 08:47 AM

So will 'The Amazing Spider-Man 2' end up chocked full of villains like 'SpiderMan 3'? Rhino and Electro? Two large characters, but what happened to just one big villain!

 

 

And it seems that Warner Brothers are waiting for the reception of 'Man Of Steel' to determin the fate of Justice League's future. A good move, because as Superman is the poster boy of the League, if this films fails, abandon all hope of the Justice League film...

 

http://www.comingsoo...ws.php?id=99457



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Posted 30 January 2013 - 03:11 AM

Yeah I heard about that, with the amazing spiderman 2. They better do this right.. I mean we all know what happened in spiderman 3 when too many villains were introduced.. that ended the series pretty much.



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Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:10 AM

"Too many cooks spoil the SpiderMan"

 

Although I've not seen the new one, I think they will use the actors better to construct a decent story with the two possible villains rather than just throw them in together...and I suppose, for the 3rd film, they have 3 villains with Green Goblin cropping up!



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Posted 30 January 2013 - 06:08 PM

Look at what could have been people....LOOK, DAMN YOU...!!

 



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Just, wow...!


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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:12 PM

Look at what could have been people....LOOK, DAMN YOU...!!

 



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Just, wow...!

 

I would if you posted the image properly...



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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:55 PM

What's wrong with it? Is it not coming up?



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Posted 30 January 2013 - 08:03 PM

Seen it already. Decent suit design, better than the one for 'Man Of Steel'.

 

The script on the other hand, was terrible.



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Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:08 PM

I was just reading about this the other day, it appears a film maker is trying to make a documentary about what happened to SUPERMAN LIVES. [1]



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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:30 AM

I dislike Nicolas Cage..



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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:16 AM

I dislike Nicolas Cage..

I dislike him post National Treasure. But he was fine before then.



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Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:32 PM

I loved National Treasure but not the second one.



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Posted 03 February 2013 - 05:02 PM

The second one is awful.



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Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:43 AM

All this Superbowl activity has led to the stages of the new Marvel films to be listed:

 
'Iron Man 3' - May 3rd
'Thor: The Dark World' - Nov 8th
'Captain America 2: Winter Soldier' - Apr 4th 2014
'Guardians Of The Galaxy' - Aug 1st
'The Avengers 2' - May 1st 2015
'Ant-Man' - Nov 6th
 
Seems like DC are going to have their work cut out with any Justice League films or spin-offs they want to compete with Marvel...!


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 03:57 PM

I think I have added most of those release dates on the first page.



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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:57 AM

Ah, you did, sorry Iceskater, I just pinched the Marvel diary for their releases! :)

 

I am hoping soon we get a little more from 'Man Of Steel' - that's coming up soon, Superman is nearly here...!



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Posted 06 February 2013 - 01:10 AM

TASM 2 began filming today.

 

http://www.ign.com/a...pal-photography

 

A few pictures from the set that don't really give away anything at all.



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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:09 AM

DC/Warner bros is so behind in terms of making a superhero movie.........if the Man of steel fails.........forget about Justice league movie......

 

There seem to be more Marvel movies than DC movies currently, only DC is The man of steel and no other projects 



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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:14 AM

Not to mention all DC movies suck. (Except for Batman Begins)



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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:31 AM

That's because DC Comics doesn't need a barrage of films being released all the time, like Marvel does. DC will take their time, whereas Marvel gave us Rushed, half-assed titles like Iron Man 2, Captain America, Thor, and The Avengers. They care more about rushing a film just to put it out and make money, than to take their time and craft a wonderful film overall. 

 

I think 'Man Of Steel' looks average at best. I thought TDKR was terrible, but I blame that on Nolan and him being given Total Control. I thought 'Green Lantern' was a good film and people seriously need to stop complaining about the acting and the plot in the film and look at the overflowing plot line and sub-par acting in Iron Man 2 first.

 

They aren't behind, they're taking their time. I'm sure I'll be at the cinema to see 'Man Of Steel' (simply because of Zack Snyder's direction), and if it turns out to be great, then good.

 

As for Marvel, the X-Men is still an interest to me, but for the "Phases" and S.H.I.E.L.D. and Avengers, I really don't care what they do now. The rights to The Punisher and Daredevil have reverted back to them, and with the whole "Disney, kid friendly" thing going on, I don't see them making a new film on those characters for a while (especially if they were to adapt from Joe Carnahan's story idea for a Daredevil reboot).



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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:16 AM

I bloody love 'The Punisher' film with Tom Jane and John Travolta - even 'Punisher War Zone' was great, loud and entertaining fun.

 

Never going to work in the era of family-friendly toy spawning comic book heroes now, which is a shame, but still great adult adaptations.



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Posted 06 February 2013 - 06:38 PM

TASM 2 began filming today.

 

http://www.ign.com/a...pal-photography

 

A few pictures from the set that don't really give away anything at all.

 

I mean what do you expect they just started filming.

 

Regarding the Green Lanter movie.. it had a lot of potential, I mean from the trailers it looked awesome but I was extremely dissappointed and it was rather not what I expected it to be. I had no problem with the acting or whatever but it was just not very good. Was it the worst superhero movie? definitely not. Iron Man 2 and Daredevil and the Fantastic Four were wayyyy worse superhero movies than the Green Lantern. If Ryan Reynolds will appear as the Green Lantern in Justice League, I would not have a problem with that.

 

 

I bloody love 'The Punisher' film with Tom Jane and John Travolta - even 'Punisher War Zone' was great, loud and entertaining fun.

 

Never going to work in the era of family-friendly toy spawning comic book heroes now, which is a shame, but still great adult adaptations.

 

I don't really like the punisher that much. He is probably my least favorite.



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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:24 PM

I bloody love 'The Punisher' film with Tom Jane and John Travolta - even 'Punisher War Zone' was great, loud and entertaining fun.

 

Never going to work in the era of family-friendly toy spawning comic book heroes now, which is a shame, but still great adult adaptations.

 

I love both, hell even the very first one with Dolph Lundgren. You should check out Joe Carnahan's idea for Daredevil though, I think the style he was going for was completely Daredevil all the way.

 

 

I don't really like the punisher that much. He is probably my least favorite.
 

 

Punisher isn't for everyone, you probably just don't understand the character well enough. If you did, I think you'd enjoy the 2004.



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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:24 AM

Not to mention all DC movies suck. (Except for Batman Begins)

 

nah I think the best DC movie Superman starring Christpher Reeves......and the sequel......very well done nothing will beat that....like Batman begins have no interest in TDK nor TDKR 



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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:41 AM

 

Here is Joe Carnahan's pitch reel for Daredevil. Definitely looked promising. As for the Superman films, I was never a Superman fan and am not one of the films either. I do not have high expectations for MoS. Green Lantern was awful. I couldn't believe how bad it was with Martin Campbell directing. He did even worse with the CGI than Tamahori did in DAD. IM2 certainly isn't the best superhero film out there, but it is loads better than GL, TDK, TDKR.

 

As for the Punisher films, I never saw the Dolph Lundgren one, but after seeing War Zone last week I might check it out. The Punisher (2004) is a laughably underrated film and War Zone is almost equally as good. Tom Jane and Ray Stevenson are both brilliant as Frank Castle. It's a shame that we probably will not get another one. However, for anyone who might have missed this, here is Tom Jane's short Punisher film.

 



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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:10 AM

That pitch Carnahan delivered to Marvel was spot-on of what the character was in the comics. I really would've enjoyed his film and I think it would have done the character and the mythology justice, unlike the 2003 film, which isn't bad, but it isn't great. Carnahan has delivered some great films, and I hope his remake of 'Death Wish' with Frank Grillo may make Marvel re-consider and possibly do the film anyways.

 

Lundgren's film is entertaining and was the first time I saw the character in film. After seeing the film, I fell in love with the character and began buying comics of The Punisher. Ever since then, My love for it has never stopped. He's my favorite comic book character of all time.



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:01 PM

My 2 cents:

 

 

my top 10 Comic Book films:

 

 

Honorable Mention (Batman Forever, Superman 2 the Donner Cut, Spider Man 2, X2 and The Dark Knight Rises)

 

 

 

 

10. X-Men

 

Not a bad film, I thought it gave us a great story, and insight into the relationship of Charles Xavier and Magneto. While I am not fan of the comic book Wolverine, I enjoyed the take on Logan here, and how they mixed in the love triangle with Jean, Scott and Logan. There are some things I wished they could have expanded on, but its is still a good film (Although Sabretooth could have been better).

 

9. Green Lantern

 

Before I get hate mail, this is actually a good film. If DC is to make a leap to the Justice League this is a good starting point. Ryan Reynolds does well as Hal Jordan (Even if the character seemed a bit Kyle Raynar to me), the cast was strong (Tim Robbins, Angela Basset {Way too hot to play Amanda Waller}, Blake Lively, Peter Saarsgaard) and while I wouldn't have made Parallax the focus, still I enjoy watching this movie. A perfect sequel in the end credits is established, and I hope we get one someday.

 

8.  Wolverine: Origins

 

As before, I love the Wolverine character as displayed in the X-Men Films. Hugh Jackman gives another awesome performance here as the title character, while we get the way Sabretooth should have been portrayed by Liev Schrieber. This also served as an origin of sorts for the X-Men. If you loved the 1st 2 X-Men films (X3 was a piece of S***) this is one you HAVE to see.

 

7. Spider Man (2002)

 

A few years ago this would have been higher up, but IMO it is superior to the Amazing Spider Man in every way. Sam Raimi's direction is brilliant, Tobey Maguire does an excellent job as both Peter Parker and Spider-Man, and Willem Dafoe is just plain creepy. While I didn't like the armored Green Goblin, I can put that aside for what is a fun movie to watch. All the characters are true to their comic counterparts, but the best performance is JK Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson. The best part of Raimi's Spidey films is his portayal, which gives great comic relief

 

6. The Incredible Hulk

 

While I liked the way Ang Lee shot the 2003 Hulk movie, this film completely rocked my world. Ed Norton made Bruce Banner easy to relate too, and Liv Tyler's portrayal of Betty Ross was as touching as Jennifer Connoly's. I liked that the comics were the guide to this film as we see the Leader (briefly) and the Abomination and the Hulk fight is my favorite of the Marvel series. The best part was having Tony Stark at the end, hinting at what was to come.

 

5. Iron Man

 

Robert Downey Jr made this film. Given that he and Tony Stark share the same past, and have overcome that. Seeing the origin was cool, but I would have liked a better villain than Iron Monger. Still, this is a fun movie to watch, and the origin is updated in an innovative way.

 

4. Avengers

 

While I think the Avengers and the Defenders are in the same realm of Marvel teams (I think the X-Men are a stronger team) this was a film well worth the wait. Placing Captain America, Thor and Iron Man films into a single one, adding the Hulk, made this fun. I have to admit seeing Thor and the Hulk beating the crap out of enemies on the big screen was sending chills up my spine. The best of the Marvel films, and the most fun.

 

3. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm

 

What? An animated film? Forget that its animated. This is a great story. A new villain makes his way into Gotham, and gives Batman a run for the money. We also get to meet a woman who almost makes Bruce forget about becoming Batman, and the flashback scenes help flesh out the movie without taking away the excitement (just like Batman Begins would do a decade later). The voice cast is the same as the animated series, but Abe Vogoda, Stacy Keach and Dana Delaney add a lot to the film (Dana Delaney would later voice Lois Lane in the Superman Animated series). This is a great film, and gives us another peek into the origin and legend of Batman. This one has it all, double crosses, mystery elements and some WTF moments.

 

2. Batman (1989)/Batman Begins

 

I have these films tied b/c they both shed light on the origin of Batman. While Chris Nolan went for a more realistic Batman, without Tim Burton's 1989 film Batman would not be what he is today. I loved the design aspects of the 1989 film, the whole thing was gothic (pun intended) in the design of the city and the costume itself. Jack Nicholson portrayed the best Joker (Heath Ledger did well, but his untimely and tragic death left him incomplete in The Dark Knight). In Batman Begins, Chris Nolan gave us Ra's Al-Ghul and the Scarecrow, 2 Batman villains yet to appear on the big screen. Batman Begins borrowed heavily from Frank Miller's Year One (right down to the end scene) and cemented the new Batman films. I couldn't place these films separatly but felt placing them together would be better.

 

1. Superman

 

Superman is my favorite comic character so yes I am biased here. Even though this film and I are the same age, I still enjoy watching this film. Richard Donner perfectly characterizes Superman in the current time (1970's going into the 1980's) and the cast is impressive. Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor, Margot Kidder as Lois Lane, Marlon Brando as Jor-El. Of course having Zod in the beginning sets up the sequel perfectly. But what made this film was Christopher Reeve's portrayal as both Clark Kent and Superman. We finally could buy the Clark Kent disguise, and the aw-shcucks way he carried himself as Clark. As Superman, he still influences the way we all think he should be on screen. He was in shape, and more importantly looked like Superman should look. Check out the Super Powers action figure of Superman, that was Christopher Reeve as the inspiration. Ignore the clothing and the outdated tech, the story still holds up, the effects do as well, and we get the film that every super hero film since has tried to replicate.



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:57 PM

My Least Favorite Comic Book Films

 

 

1. Batman and Robin

 

 

This killed the franchise. Bane was horribly done, the way Batgirl was introduced was pitiful (Alfred's niece instead of Barbara Gordon) and Poison Ivy was over the top. Mr Freeze at least was interesting and they gave him the same origin as Freeze in the animated series. But making Alfred the character who we got emotionally involved was a mistake. The only good thing was this toy line gave us a near perfect comic book style (and the first) Bane action figure.

 

2. Spider Man 3

 

Harry Osborn should have been the Hobgoblin IMO and not some fruit in a black suit and Back to the Future Hoverboard. Venom was unnecessary to the story, as was Gwen Stacy. If they stuck with Harry and the Sandman, this might have been good. While the most hyped for super hero movie, this one failed to deliver. The Peter-Mary Jane angle was good, but the Venom angle and the symbiote just made this feel like a rushed piece of S*** that it is. I could write a better one.

 

3. X-Men 3

 

This will be a long one so, bear with me. Killing off Cyclops pissed me off, as did this mutant cure. Not having Bryan Singer direct this hurt the film as well. While the only Brett Ratner film I like is Red Dragon, this was a snooze fest. I was so let down after a good X2 film, and instead was given a 2 hour shitfest. What should have been done is Cyclops would have thrown himself into helping Xavier run the Academy. Storm and Wolverine would have started a relationship and the after effects of Stryker and his goons would have put more problems on the X-Men to submit to Mutant Registration. There, I just gave you the plot for the movie. And if anyone should have killed Jean, it should've been Scott.

 

4. The Green Hornet

 

Seth Rogan-funny guy. This was just not worth the time. If they were to make a Green Hornet film, go for the dramatic angle and cast Brad Pitt as Britt Reed and Jet Li as Kato.

 

5. Superman Returns

 

The good thing was the cast. Brandon Routh IMO was a very good Superman, Kate Bosworth a decent Lois Lane and Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor was perfect. The problem was this film took place in the DonnerVerse, This should have been a reboot. Me, I would have cast Hugh Laurie as Perry White, throw in some comic elements like Lex Luthor running LexCorp and have cast James Marsters as John Corbin and have a big fight with Superman and Metallo to complete the film. In the end credits i would hint at Brainiac coming to Earth. Paying attention Warner Brothers?

 

6. The Dark Knight

 

The only reason IMO that people like this movie is that its the last full movie Heath Ledger appeared in. While his death was sad and tragic, so was this movie. Another highly anticipated sequel, this just didn't resonate for me. While I did like the Killing Joke references, and the new Batman suit, and the Bat Pod, here is why this movie is down on my list:

 

1. Harvey Dent-while Aaron Eckhart wonderfully portrayed Harvey, where was he in Batman Begins? If he and Rachel are together, why no mention of him in BB at all? His character seemed to appear out of thin air and is this wonderful hope and change character who all of the sudden is who Gotham should place their faith in. Making him into Two-Face was a big insult and was way too rushed. Killing him off was a bad idea, and for a 3rd film would have made a good villain. Imagine a film with Batman and Gordon having to fight and confront an old friend. Damn what could have been!

 

2. Batman taking the fall. While it does set up Dark Knight Rises, I have a better idea. Who killed Harvey Dent? The Joker did. While his devotion to justice makes it a good idea to take the fall, having the Joker kill the idea of one man changing the fate of Gotham would have hurt the city in the short term, Batman being able to be the hero who can help Gordon outside the law makes a better long term solution to Gotham coming out on top. By pinning Harvery's death on the Joker, Batman could fight to rebuild the faith of the Gotham people while at the same time realizing he cannot fight alone (Opens the door for a Dick Grayson-Robin, Batgirl, or to go realistic Azrael) to help Batman fight his war on crime.

 

3. Maggie Gyllenhall as Rachel Dawes. While Ms Gyllenhall is a good actress, I would have liked to see Katie Holmes back, to keep things the same.

 

4. The way Bruce Wayne was characterized. Personally, Christian Bale is my favorite Batman. But there is no way Bruce would be looking for an out as Batman. Bruce is obsessive compulsive, to the point in Kingdom Come he has robotic Batmen patrolling Gotham. I understand the realism angle Chris Nolan was going for, but there is no way in Hell Bruce Wayne would look to give up being Batman. Batman is Bruce's obsession, its his way of going for Justice for the murder of his parents and it is what drives him to see that nobody else has to lose his or her parents to an act of crime.

 

5. The Joker. While the beginning sequence is awesome, and the "Why So Serious?" and "Do you want to know how I got these scars?" questions bring back the Killing Joke comic book refernces, what fails is who is the Joker? The Tim Burton film gave us a name-Jack Napier. It gave the audience a connection, and a tragic fall. I know he just wanted to watch the world burn and was insane but what shaped him to become the Joker? Why did he embrace the name? While portrayed by a talented actor in Heath Ledger, the lack of an origin and the lack of connectivity hurt this film greatly IMO. I am an old school fan, so I enjoy the Jack Nicholson Joker more, but this felt a little too much of the portayal in The Batman animated series (the one with the Joker barefoot and in the strait jacket) than a good film version. Still, making the pencil disappear, and having goons kill each other to join him was good. The ferry boat bombs (If anyone pressed the detonator button they would have blown themselves up), and the end of the film hurt my apperciation of the Joker. But ij Heath Ledger hadn't died it would have been him and not Jonathan Crane being the judge in the Dark Knight Rises



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:32 PM

I agree with all of your choices except the Dark Knight. I didn't think two face was rushed at all. Plus why does it matter if he is in Batman Begins, I mean they are dating now at the start of this movie and they are getting married. There is no point to put him in Batman Begins. I loved Heath Ledger's performance as the joker. It was very scary and it was definitely how I imagined it to be.

 

I do agree with you on a few points, what you said about Batman taking the fall, I didn't like that at all. I think they should have said the joker and i don't understand why they didn't. I also hated how they switched up the actress for Rachel.



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:11 PM

I agree with all of your choices except the Dark Knight. I didn't think two face was rushed at all. Plus why does it matter if he is in Batman Begins, I mean they are dating now at the start of this movie and they are getting married. There is no point to put him in Batman Begins. I loved Heath Ledger's performance as the joker. It was very scary and it was definitely how I imagined it to be.

 

I do agree with you on a few points, what you said about Batman taking the fall, I didn't like that at all. I think they should have said the joker and i don't understand why they didn't. I also hated how they switched up the actress for Rachel.

 

 

If The Dark Knight takes place a year after Batman Begins (as implied in the film) than why not have Harvey appear in Batman Begins at the very least as a cameo? It could help explain why there is so much faith in Harvey Dent, and give the audience some insight as to why Rachel is quickly moving on from Bruce to the point where she wants to marry the guy. IMO that is very fast to think marriage after letting go of someone after a year, but that is just me.



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:24 PM

I agree with all of your choices except the Dark Knight. I didn't think two face was rushed at all. Plus why does it matter if he is in Batman Begins, I mean they are dating now at the start of this movie and they are getting married. There is no point to put him in Batman Begins. I loved Heath Ledger's performance as the joker. It was very scary and it was definitely how I imagined it to be.

 

I do agree with you on a few points, what you said about Batman taking the fall, I didn't like that at all. I think they should have said the joker and i don't understand why they didn't. I also hated how they switched up the actress for Rachel.

 

 

If The Dark Knight takes place a year after Batman Begins (as implied in the film) than why not have Harvey appear in Batman Begins at the very least as a cameo? It could help explain why there is so much faith in Harvey Dent, and give the audience some insight as to why Rachel is quickly moving on from Bruce to the point where she wants to marry the guy. IMO that is very fast to think marriage after letting go of someone after a year, but that is just me.

 

Going off of the idea that THE DARK KNIGHT is implied to take place a year after BATMAN BEGINS, why is it that the Joker is a seemingly unknown commodity in Gotham?  None of the other people in the crime world seem to know who he is.  He's been on the police's radar for about a year, yet he hasn't been caught nor have the police or Batman done anything that has provoked him into any kind of escalated action sooner.