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[x007AceOfSpades]

 

I don't see how I've done NO COMPARISON AT ALL. I've done everything that I could possibly do. There is No difference to me. That's my final result. I don't need to look up videos and blogs and read someone else's opinion when I'm set on my own opinion and final result. I've not just seen BR rips, I've seen actual BR Disc footage, and that didn't even phase me.

 

I stand by what I said about comparisons. Again, 480p vs 1080p. It's night and day. Hell you don't even need a Blu-ray to see that. Go to YouTube and tell us you don't see a difference. You don't need to read my opinion to get that. I don't think you've ever been exposed to a good setup, which would explain a lot. Hey, whatever, I don't care. I just don't see how you can be so dismissive of the technology. Makes no sense. Again, whatever....

 

 

I stand by what I've stated a few times now, I don't care for BR, I don't see a difference between it and DVD, I don't feel the need to upgrade. It's my view and opinion. I actually have a fairly good setup, again, I just don't feel the hype and praise for it. You have your opinions and your 'whatever's', but This is just how I feel about Blu-Ray. I don't feel impressed by it. Sure Blu-Ray get's all the Special features now, which does irritate me, but it is what is. Just a matter of preferences and opinions

[Hockey Mask]

Sorry, I've done the comparisons with Blu-Ray movie Rips on my HD monitor and DVD's, No difference at all in any aspect. Therefore, why should I upgrade? The bonus features? Sorry, I don't plan on upgrading anytime soon.

You're wrong.

[x007AceOfSpades]

 

Sorry, I've done the comparisons with Blu-Ray movie Rips on my HD monitor and DVD's, No difference at all in any aspect. Therefore, why should I upgrade? The bonus features? Sorry, I don't plan on upgrading anytime soon.

You're wrong.

 

 

I hear that a lot, I call it having an opinion.

[Double-0-Seven]

To be fair - it's a fact that 1080p is a better resolution than 480p. It's like looking at a Windows 95 display on a old monitor compared to an LED display on Windows 7.

 

Of course, if the difference between Blu-ray and DVD doesn't impress you then yes, it's a matter of opinion/preference.

 

I wasn't sold on it right away either. I noticed a difference but it was kind of like "So what?" and to this date, I'm still indifferent. I'll buy new releases on Blu-ray especially as it's come to the point where it's not much more than the DVD, but I'm not going to go to great lengths to replace all my perfectly watchable DVD collection. I made an exception for some of my favorite movies and DVDs that I owned the "Full Screen" editions of (Blu-ray was a good excuse to re-buy them to have proper widescreen transfers).

 

The first Blu-ray I bought that really impressed me was the Back to the Future trilogy. It honestly made my DVD copy look like a recordable VHS that I taped off television.

 

I find the difference is more noticeable on older movies that have been given a proper transfer rather than new releases. In other words, the DVD of The Dark Knight Rises played through an up-converting DVD player isn't going to look all that much different than the Blu-ray if you've got a good set-up.

[Matt_13]

Liking the sound of those extras...but seriously, no deleted scenes?

[007jamesbond]

yea it seem there is no deleted scenes which is disappointing as we know there were scenes that was filmed never made to the film.......but special feature yes! 

[Leon]

What an awful poster to use as the DVD cover. Laziness aside, it's just amateur in any creative terms.

[DominicGreene]

 

 

I don't see how I've done NO COMPARISON AT ALL. I've done everything that I could possibly do. There is No difference to me. That's my final result. I don't need to look up videos and blogs and read someone else's opinion when I'm set on my own opinion and final result. I've not just seen BR rips, I've seen actual BR Disc footage, and that didn't even phase me.

 

I stand by what I said about comparisons. Again, 480p vs 1080p. It's night and day. Hell you don't even need a Blu-ray to see that. Go to YouTube and tell us you don't see a difference. You don't need to read my opinion to get that. I don't think you've ever been exposed to a good setup, which would explain a lot. Hey, whatever, I don't care. I just don't see how you can be so dismissive of the technology. Makes no sense. Again, whatever....

 

 

I stand by what I've stated a few times now, I don't care for BR, I don't see a difference between it and DVD, I don't feel the need to upgrade. It's my view and opinion. I actually have a fairly good setup, again, I just don't feel the hype and praise for it. You have your opinions and your 'whatever's', but This is just how I feel about Blu-Ray. I don't feel impressed by it. Sure Blu-Ray get's all the Special features now, which does irritate me, but it is what is. Just a matter of preferences and opinions

 

 

The fact is that Blu-ray DOES look better than DVD quality wise—that is not an opinion, it is A FACT. Try finding film grain on a DVD release, or try to spot video artifacts on a blu-ray vs a DVD. I'd say I'm fairly qualified to say that there is indeed a difference, as someone who works with a lot of video.

 

Having said that, if you watch a blu-ray and a DVD on a small TV, then there will be no difference, it's on a bigger TV where the details will shine more.

 

A movie is a movie—I like blu-ray more than DVD because I like to see the director and director of photography's artistic decisions on the picture.

[x007AceOfSpades]

The fact is that Blu-ray DOES look better than DVD quality wise—that is not an opinion, it is A FACT. Try finding film grain on a DVD release, or try to spot video artifacts on a blu-ray vs a DVD. I'd say I'm fairly qualified to say that there is indeed a difference, as someone who works with a lot of video.

 

Having said that, if you watch a blu-ray and a DVD on a small TV, then there will be no difference, it's on a bigger TV where the details will shine more.

 

A movie is a movie—I like blu-ray more than DVD because I like to see the director and director of photography's artistic decisions on the picture.

 

 

In your opinion it Looks better, and that's fine. My opinion is that there's no difference, end of story. A Movie Is A Movie.

 

You don't need to like/have Blu-Ray to see the artistic decisions of the Cinematographer and the Director, I clearly see it just fine and perfectly on my DVD player(s)

[sharpshooter]

Still not a fan of that cover art, but that’s a minor issue. In terms of Blu-ray against DVD, it’s night and day. No question. I don’t watch DVD any more unless I have no other option. I would’ve liked deleted scenes, but apart from that, it looks to be a very decent offering.  

[thecasinoroyale]

Yeah, I guess we have to wait until the 2015 'Skyfalling Edition' with more features and deleted scenes!

 

So much material for us, but I guess we can't have it all.

 

 

 

 

 

No, wait...we made this film a billion dollar Bond! We CAN have it all, EON are you listening?! 

[tdalton]

Yeah, I guess we have to wait until the 2015 'Skyfalling Edition' with more features and deleted scenes!

 

2015 is probably optimistic.  I'm still waiting for the special edition of QUANTUM OF SOLACE.  

[x007AceOfSpades]

 

Yeah, I guess we have to wait until the 2015 'Skyfalling Edition' with more features and deleted scenes!

 

2015 is probably optimistic.  I'm still waiting for the special edition of QUANTUM OF SOLACE.  

 

 

I'm in the same boat as you for the The special edition of QOS with the alternate ending and audio commentary, been waiting since March 2009.

[thecasinoroyale]

That would be great but I think now 5 years on....we're probably going to have 'Quantum Of Solace' laid to rest in the now iminant reign of 'Skyfall' on DVD/Blu Ray, which is a big shame as they're sitting on material that could boost the appreciation of the film and explain lots of narrative decisions.

[When In Egypt]

I don't know how anyone can sit through a commentary.  And most extras for brand new movies on blu-ray/DVD are close to unwatchable.  

 

I honestly couldn't care less about all this stuff.  As long as the movie arrives on blu-ray as it was seen in the cinema and has a nice cover, I'm happy.  

 

If there's anything else worth watching on the disc, yippee!  If not, couldn't give a monkeys!

[thecasinoroyale]

One of the best commentaries I've sat through is the UK rom-zom-com 'Shaun Of The Dead' - full of in-jokes, gags and really honest reflections taking you through the film as the actors comment as they watch, rather than just audio interviews pieced over the relevant section on the film.

 

They laugh with you and tell you to watch things you may not have noticed they include - so I hope Mendes does something similar, rather than just interviews soundtracked over the film.

[x007AceOfSpades]

I used to find Commentaries un-interesting, than I watched a movie with one and found it completely fascinating and very insightful.

[thecasinoroyale]

Same here Ace, I think they're a really good bonus for fans of films in general, but also the film in question with the actors and crew discussing how they made it, and laughing at stories BTS.

[x007AceOfSpades]

The commentaries for Judd Apatow films are hilarious, especially the one for Pineapple Express. Michael Mann and Oliver Stone go very in depth with their commentaries. The commentary for 'Casino Royale' was also very interesting.

[thecasinoroyale]

You know I've never listened to a Bond film commentary - any good ones? I know I should have, I've watched them enough to not hear everything...!

[x007AceOfSpades]

If you have the Collector's Edition for CR that came out before QOS, then check that out. I listened to the Commentary for Dr. No which was good too. I believe the Ultimate Edition Releases of the films have commentaries.

[thecasinoroyale]

I may just do that as I revisit them all before 'Skyfall' comes out - nice one. I know we have the Roger Moore commentaries, that should be good actually on his films.

[Baccarat]

Having said that, if you watch a blu-ray and a DVD on a small TV, then there will be no difference, it's on a bigger TV where the details will shine more.

 

I watch all films on a 10 year-old 14" portable tube TV with built-in DVD player. Many look absolutely terrific; Bond, David Lean epics, Criterion Collection stuff etc. Maybe I'll check out Blu-ray one day. But for now, I'm happy.

[Simon]

The commentaries for Judd Apatow films are hilarious, especially the one for Pineapple Express. Michael Mann and Oliver Stone go very in depth with their commentaries. The commentary for 'Casino Royale' was also very interesting.

 

Yup, the best commentaries I have ever listened to have been Michael Mann, John McTiernan and one Sam Mendes.

 

Actually, I though the Michael Bay commentary for The Rock was also very good.

[When In Egypt]

I'm sure there are many good commentaries which are worth listening to, but I really don't like the idea of watching a film without really watching it, you know?  It's a bit like having a film on in the background and I've never liked doing that. 

 

Another thing is that if I have watched Skyfall at home, I'd rather spend the time watching a different film than playing it again for the commentary.  I suppose that's because I have a stack of unwatched blu-rays and the waiting list cannot accommodate a second watch for commentaries!

[thecasinoroyale]

I'd watch the commentary on those films I love and those that I know too well so wouldn't feel I'm missing out on, like James Bond, Star Wars, Indiana Jones etc.

[byline]

Sorry, I've done the comparisons with Blu-Ray movie Rips on my HD monitor and DVD's, No difference at all in any aspect. Therefore, why should I upgrade? The bonus features? Sorry, I don't plan on upgrading anytime soon.

 

What? Then you didn't do any comparison at all. Now you're re-rendering and compressing an image that was barely compressed (if at all) to begin with. It's not even the same thing. It's not even in the same ballpark.

Yup, comparing compressed video images from different sources is ... well, no real comparison at all. One has to view the actual source media, on a screen that is capable of rendering the differences, in order to actually see the difference. If one has only a regular TV, with no HD capabilities, then of course the differences will be negligible, if visible at all. But trust me, as one living with one eye practically blinded by a cataract (surgery scheduled on March 25), and a swiftly growing cataract in the other eye, watching the two versions on our large-screen LED TV, I can clearly see the differences between Blu-ray and a regular DVD (even an HD one that's upconverted on our Blu-ray player). Not only is the image far crisper to my poor ol' eyes searching for clarity anywhere I can get it, but I also find the Blu-ray sound to be far superior in most cases.

[DominicGreene]

 

Sorry, I've done the comparisons with Blu-Ray movie Rips on my HD monitor and DVD's, No difference at all in any aspect. Therefore, why should I upgrade? The bonus features? Sorry, I don't plan on upgrading anytime soon.

 

What? Then you didn't do any comparison at all. Now you're re-rendering and compressing an image that was barely compressed (if at all) to begin with. It's not even the same thing. It's not even in the same ballpark.

Yup, comparing compressed video images from different sources is ... well, no real comparison at all. One has to view the actual source media, on a screen that is capable of rendering the differences, in order to actually see the difference. If one has only a regular TV, with no HD capabilities, then of course the differences will be negligible, if visible at all. But trust me, as one living with one eye practically blinded by a cataract (surgery scheduled on March 25), and a swiftly growing cataract in the other eye, watching the two versions on our large-screen LED TV, I can clearly see the differences between Blu-ray and a regular DVD (even an HD one that's upconverted on our Blu-ray player). Not only is the image far crisper to my poor ol' eyes searching for clarity anywhere I can get it, but I also find the Blu-ray sound to be far superior in most cases.

 

 

You have to be blind not to see the difference, (VHS / DVD / Blu-ray)

 

 

DVD and Blu-ray:

 

Edited by DominicGreene, 27 January 2013 - 07:53 PM.

[larrythefatcat]

You know I've never listened to a Bond film commentary - any good ones? I know I should have, I've watched them enough to not hear everything...!

 

I would suggest listening to the commentaries on your favorite films for starters, but I really enjoy the Roger Moore commentaries on the UE/Blu-ray releases of all of his films and I wish they'd been able to get the other Bonds to participate in similar commentaries for their respective films.

 

There are commentaries on all of the DVDs (except for the original, non-SE releases of DN, FRWL, GF, TSWLM, MR, GE and TND) but I think the most interesting commentaries, however, are the ones not included on any of the DVDs or Blu-ray discs; the first Criterion Laserdisc releases of Dr. No, FRWL and Goldfinger had some very off-the-cuff commentaries that are a little out there at times and ended up being "banned" by EON Productions.  Since they're not going to be included on any official releases anytime soon, you can find them at the 007 Dossier:  http://www.the007dos...mmentaries.aspx

[007jamesbond]

maybe there is deleted scene but there no info about it yet