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[Quantumofsolace007]

i still can't believe they're replacing brosnan. smack in the face

You couldn't even see Brosnan in the game. They had text on the screen when conversations took place. It never ceases to amaze me how much crap DC gets for not being Pierce. It's obnoxious.

yes but goldeneye was still "brosnan's movie"

well it could be argued it fit Dalton better but that is neither here nor there. At least with the game i get to in a way see how Dalton would have approached the film.

that was the reason why i used quotes and a wink with my comment.

LOL sadly some actually view it as a Brosnan film lol

So that wasn't Pierce Brosnan playing Bond in the film? Sure looked like him. Hey thanks for pointing that out, boy I must have looked silly thinking it was Pierce Brosnan all these years.

It was peirce but it was written for Dalton.

[Lachesis]

It was peirce but it was written for Dalton.

At one stage it was written with Mr Dalton as the anticipated star but I presume after Mr Brosnan was announces there were still changes being made before we got to the final article. It does make you wonder how much difference it makes, certainly with a new actor entering the role, you anticipate they will bring something of themselves but the scripting is really the Bond in the writers head?

[DamnCoffee]

i still can't believe they're replacing brosnan. smack in the face

You couldn't even see Brosnan in the game. They had text on the screen when conversations took place. It never ceases to amaze me how much crap DC gets for not being Pierce. It's obnoxious.

yes but goldeneye was still "brosnan's movie"

well it could be argued it fit Dalton better but that is neither here nor there. At least with the game i get to in a way see how Dalton would have approached the film.

that was the reason why i used quotes and a wink with my comment.

LOL sadly some actually view it as a Brosnan film lol

So that wasn't Pierce Brosnan playing Bond in the film? Sure looked like him. Hey thanks for pointing that out, boy I must have looked silly thinking it was Pierce Brosnan all these years.

It was peirce but it was written for Dalton.

No, actually. The unfilmed Bond 17 was written for Dalton. GoldenEye was a completely different story all together. Granted, it would've been a lot more interesting with Dalton in the lead role, (As would A View To A Kill), but it still doesn't mean that the entire movie was written with him in mind. Dalton stepped down in 1993, GoldenEye was 2 years later. I imagine that the first draft of GoldenEye wasn't even finished around the time of Daltons departure.

[Quantumofsolace007]

i still can't believe they're replacing brosnan. smack in the face

You couldn't even see Brosnan in the game. They had text on the screen when conversations took place. It never ceases to amaze me how much crap DC gets for not being Pierce. It's obnoxious.

yes but goldeneye was still "brosnan's movie"

well it could be argued it fit Dalton better but that is neither here nor there. At least with the game i get to in a way see how Dalton would have approached the film.

that was the reason why i used quotes and a wink with my comment.

LOL sadly some actually view it as a Brosnan film lol

So that wasn't Pierce Brosnan playing Bond in the film? Sure looked like him. Hey thanks for pointing that out, boy I must have looked silly thinking it was Pierce Brosnan all these years.

It was peirce but it was written for Dalton.

No, actually. The unfilmed Bond 17 was written for Dalton. GoldenEye was a completely different story all together. Granted, it would've been a lot more interesting with Dalton in the lead role, (As would A View To A Kill), but it still doesn't mean that the entire movie was written with him in mind. Dalton stepped down in 1993, GoldenEye was 2 years later. I imagine that the first draft of GoldenEye wasn't even finished around the time of Daltons departure.

Actually it was written for Dalton. and some of the Dalton lines still fit case in point M's Discussion with Bond about makeing things personal really only makes sence post LTK with Dalton.

[zencat]

Actually, I think the original Michael France draft was written with Dalton in mind (this draft did not include the Bond/M "don't make it personal" scene, btw). But I think the subsequent rewrites were done with Brosnan in mind.

[DamnCoffee]

Dalton lines still fit case in point M's Discussion with Bond about makeing things personal

They also fit with Craig, doesn't mean they wrote it thinking of him.

I agree with Zencat. Maybe the first very VERY rough drafts were written with Dalton in mind, as he intended to return to the role. However, GoldenEye was CLEARLY re-written to tailor Brosnans needs. Every Bond actor brings something new to the roll, so obviously changes had to be made. In GoldenEye's case, it was a lot.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

Dalton lines still fit case in point M's Discussion with Bond about makeing things personal

They also fit with Craig, doesn't mean they wrote it thinking of him.

I agree with Zencat. Maybe the first very VERY rough drafts were written with Dalton in mind, as he intended to return to the role. However, GoldenEye was CLEARLY re-written to tailor Brosnans needs. Every Bond actor brings something new to the roll, so obviously changes had to be made. In GoldenEye's case, it was a lot.

France wrote GoldenEye with Dalton in mind, yes. Then, Dalton declined for a third Bond film, so Pierce came in and Feirstein & Caine reworked the script for Pierce's Bond.

[JimmyBond]

I agree with Zencat. Maybe the first very VERY rough drafts were written with Dalton in mind, as he intended to return to the role. However, GoldenEye was CLEARLY re-written to tailor Brosnans needs. Every Bond actor brings something new to the roll, so obviously changes had to be made. In GoldenEye's case, it was a lot.

I can't picture Dalton's Bond engaging in a lot of the shoot outs that Pierce was involved in. Once Brosnan entered the scene it seemed like everyone made a conscious effort to rework the formula to be more current with the other action films of the time. Had Dalton stayed I can imagine we'd have a film closer in tone to The Living Daylights (action wise as well).

[sharpshooter]

Bottom line, Pierce starred in GoldenEye, and that's his film.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Bottom line, Pierce starred in GoldenEye, and that's his film.

Bottom Line if Activision is doing another Goldeneye I'm glad it's with Daniel Craig

[JimmyBond]

I bet if it was Pierce in the game and doing the voice you'd be fully behind that as well. Saying how great it was they were bringing Pierce back into the Bond fold after he got the boot nearly ten years ago.

[Germanlady]

Bottom line, Pierce starred in GoldenEye, and that's his film.

True and maybe they shouldn´t have remade Goldeneye now. But since they do, they can ONLY go with DC due to license rights. Its not, that he is stealing anything from Pierce. He couldn´t be in it, even if they wanted him to be. So - adressing anger towards DC is the wrong direction.

[DamnCoffee]

I bet if it was Pierce in the game and doing the voice you'd be fully behind that as well. Saying how great it was they were bringing Pierce back into the Bond fold after he got the boot nearly ten years ago.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I bet if it was Pierce in the game and doing the voice you'd be fully behind that as well. Saying how great it was they were bringing Pierce back into the Bond fold after he got the boot nearly ten years ago.

Nope I'm not a fan of Peirce... now A timothy Dalton Bond Game that would be cool

[Bucky]

Bottom line, Pierce starred in GoldenEye, and that's his film.

True and maybe they shouldn´t have remade Goldeneye now. But since they do, they can ONLY go with DC due to license rights. Its not, that he is stealing anything from Pierce. He couldn´t be in it, even if they wanted him to be. So - adressing anger towards DC is the wrong direction.

they probably could have made it with pierce but just did not want to pay him when they could have a better bond in it for less and make it more interesting.

[Germanlady]

Bottom line, Pierce starred in GoldenEye, and that's his film.

True and maybe they shouldn´t have remade Goldeneye now. But since they do, they can ONLY go with DC due to license rights. Its not, that he is stealing anything from Pierce. He couldn´t be in it, even if they wanted him to be. So - adressing anger towards DC is the wrong direction.

they probably could have made it with pierce but just did not want to pay him when they could have a better bond in it for less and make it more interesting.

What makes you think, DC is LESS costly. I would think, the opposite. And still - the couldn´t use him, if they wanted. Maybe people will be fine with it, once the game is out and good. I hope...

[DamnCoffee]

I bet if it was Pierce in the game and doing the voice you'd be fully behind that as well. Saying how great it was they were bringing Pierce back into the Bond fold after he got the boot nearly ten years ago.

Nope I'm not a fan of Peirce... now A timothy Dalton Bond Game that would be cool

So if Pierce was in GoldenEye 2010, you would be complaining?

[Matt_13]

Am I the only one who thinks he's trolling? Or should I say mooing.

[Bucky]

Bottom line, Pierce starred in GoldenEye, and that's his film.

True and maybe they shouldn´t have remade Goldeneye now. But since they do, they can ONLY go with DC due to license rights. Its not, that he is stealing anything from Pierce. He couldn´t be in it, even if they wanted him to be. So - adressing anger towards DC is the wrong direction.

they probably could have made it with pierce but just did not want to pay him when they could have a better bond in it for less and make it more interesting.

What makes you think, DC is LESS costly. I would think, the opposite. And still - the couldn´t use him, if they wanted. Maybe people will be fine with it, once the game is out and good. I hope...

why couldn't they use pierce?

[DamnCoffee]

Am I the only one who thinks he's trolling? Or should I say mooing.

Believe me, the thought has occurred to me, numerous times.

[EyesOnly]

I don't understand where the creativity has gone? What happened to originality? If Activision can't come up with an original storyline for a Bond game, then i'd rather them work on a new IP. We get enough remakes from Hollywood.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Am I the only one who thinks he's trolling? Or should I say mooing.

Believe me, the thought has occurred to me, numerous times.

Ok so because I support this project and prefer Daniel to Peirce I'm Trolling and mooing?

I'm extremely confused.

[Mr Teddy Bear]

I for one am much more excited about having Craig in this than if Brosnan were involved.

But the reality is they would never get Brosnan back to do this, it was either going to be Craig or an original design for Bond and unknown voice actor (like Agent Under Fire).

Given this, and that we don't know when (or if!) Craig's next Bond film will happen, I will relish his performance in this game.

Edited by Mr Teddy Bear, 23 June 2010 - 08:55 AM.

[marktmurphy]

I don't understand where the creativity has gone? What happened to originality? If Activision can't come up with an original storyline for a Bond game, then i'd rather them work on a new IP. We get enough remakes from Hollywood.

Well it's less about it being a Bond game than a new GoldenEye. In video game world, 'GoldenEye' is a bigger brand than 'James Bond'. You just have to watch the beginning of the trailer to see that.

I for one am much more excited about having Craig in this than if Brosnan were involved.

I have nothing against the idea of a Brosnan game, but after his appalling phoned-in performance in Everything or Nothing where he sounded practically asleep, I'm much more interested in a Craig game. At least he's acting in the Quantum game. Plus: Craig has a great Bond voice; Brosnan, well... his voice isn't his strongest point.

I'd like a Roger game more, though

[Quantumofsolace007]

I don't understand where the creativity has gone? What happened to originality? If Activision can't come up with an original storyline for a Bond game, then i'd rather them work on a new IP. We get enough remakes from Hollywood.

Well it's less about it being a Bond game than a new GoldenEye. In video game world, 'GoldenEye' is a bigger brand than 'James Bond'. You just have to watch the beginning of the trailer to see that.

I for one am much more excited about having Craig in this than if Brosnan were involved.

I have nothing against the idea of a Brosnan game, but after his appalling phoned-in performance in Everything or Nothing where he sounded practically asleep, I'm much more interested in a Craig game. At least he's acting in the Quantum game. Plus: Craig has a great Bond voice; Brosnan, well... his voice isn't his strongest point.

I'd like a Roger game more, though

Since Activision Owns Different Comapnies like treyarch I don't see why one company can't give us Period Bond (A Roger Moore Game and a Timothy Dalton Game) another for Daniel Craig Bond games (Bond 23 and any other "lets update the film and put Daniel Craig in" Games and orignal games featuring Daniel as 007)


I mean 2 bond games per year in different Quaters would be a dream come true for me

[Matt_13]

Has anyone picked up the new Nintendo Mag? Any good pics/info?

[level007]

Not yet but i saw on a video showing multiplayers that the interface of the game is using the design from quantum of solace as seen during the MI6 scenes. My feeling that quantum being the real bad guy (behind trevelyan) is getting stronger. I have the feeling that they will use the goldeneye satellite to hold up a bank and erase any trace of it, like trevelyan planned to do in the movie.

[Matt_13]

Yeah it's definitely a safe bet that Bond will be combating Quantum in the game. Cool beans.

[Double-0-Seven]

All I can say is this:

Wow.

I've been away from Bond fandom for a bit, especially after about hearing about the issues regarding Bond 23 and the future of the series. Then suddenly I log on to my Facebook and see a comment from my friend, informing me of the E3 announcement. It has certainly renewed my interest in the series! Not that it was ever gone, but with nothing of significance going on, things had become stale for me.

With each passing generation of consoles (granted, there's only been two since the Nintendo 64 days) I've always been curious to see a completely remake of GoldenEye. I always thought it would be awesome to play enhanced versions of all the levels, compeltely with new graphics, guns, and missions. Maybe we'd finally get to play the casino or do a full bungee jump from the dam.

Thirteen years after the release and here it is!

I've always had another curiosity, though this is in regards to the movie. I'll go on record saying I can't stand Eric Serra's score, save for a hanful of cues. I always wondered what the score would have been like had David Arnold come around one film earlier. The film's pace I find is hurt by music cues that seem too emotional for some of the scenes, and thus the film's pace slows down quite a bit in the middle.

Regardless of what one's taste in terms of Arnold's music is, there's no doubt his score would have made the movie more exciting. It would have been a lot more Bond-like as well, which is what the movie really needed after a six year gap. Sure, he relied on the Bond theme too much in his later scores (TWINE and DAD), but it would have been appropriate for GoldenEye.

So to add the the already great news of having Daniel Craig and Judi Dench doing voices, we now have Arnold doing the score!

Ironically, with the release of Toy Story 3, two of my childhood fantasies have come to life this year, perfectly timed with the end of high school (even though the game technically isn't out till November). This game is set to have everything I ever dreamed about for the movie and original game. The original game was a huge part of my childhood, as it was for many people. As a side note, I don't mind that they replaced Brosnan. It makes sense to go with the current Bond, and it's nice that the story itself will be updated to reflect it.

There's one problem however...

I don't have a Wii!

[The Shark]

Regardless of what one's taste in terms of Arnold's music is, there's no doubt his score would have made the movie more exciting. It would have been a lot more Bond-like as well, which is what the movie really needed after a six year gap.

Oh I have plenty of doubt in that regard. Arnold's scores for me (particularly with CR and TWINE) seem to zap all of the energy and tension a scene could have otherwise have had with a more compelling and emotionally engaging score. I also consider GE's lush, languid, romantic cues far more in the classical continental European sensibility of Barry than Arnold ever was, without ever descending into unnecessary pastiche.

Over all, the film is a stark, cold, quite brutal thriller, and Serra provides that dark ambience in spades, building upon the film's Post-Cold War miasma. Arnold's electro-Barry-lite approach would have rang completely false on every level.