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#211 zencat

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Posted 19 June 2010 - 05:47 PM

I should really lay off. I admit I'm not gamer, so I'm not seeing the positive gaming aspects to this. I'm looking at this as a fan of the Bond universe, the continuing adventures of 007 in book, film, comics, and games, and after EoN, I feel like a Bond game can also be a great addition to the Bond mega canon. The very nature of this (from what we know so far) kinda keeps it from being that. But maybe that's the intent. Maybe they don't want it to represent any kind a new Bond story or continuation. They want it to represent pure Bond gaming at its best. And that is what "GoldenEye" means.

Ok, I've got my head around it now. B)

Following on with my new thinking here, do you think they might be looking at this as a way to potentially brand Bond gaming beyond "007." Kind of like Call of Duty or Grand Theft Auto, if this game is a huge success, might we next see GoldenEye: Bloodstone, GoldenEye: Streets of Monaco (racing game), and so fourth? Explains why Craig would be used in this first game, even though it's conceptually a little odd.

(Now, this all sounds ghastly if you ask me. Just wondering if this is the new thinking in the Bond gaming world. Everyone loves a "brand"!)

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Posted 19 June 2010 - 06:34 PM

Great news to see Arnold joining this reinvention of the goldeneyes story.

I wonder if the bank crysis involves quantum ? That would be great.
006 is still there and he still going to be a traitor but maybe now he's working with quantum.

Remenber that in the movie, when trvelyan explains to bond what he is going to do with the goldeneyes satellite, he says that he will transfer money from the bank of England or something like that. Maybe ferstein will developp this part of the story

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Posted 19 June 2010 - 07:04 PM

Holy B). Uninterested as I may be in the game overall, Arnold's involvement will at the very least have me paying attention.

I wonder if Arnold had signed a deal for Bond 23 already, and with it shelved indefinitely, was owed a certain amount from EON regardless and the Bond execs thought, "Well, if we're going to pay him, we may as well get SOMETHING out of him."

Or, has this whole MGM disaster just turned me into a conspiracy theorist?

EDIT: That snippet on the website sounds decidedly Arnold-ish. In fact that one particular riff sounds decidedly familiar, as well. DAD? Ice Palace?

#214 Matt_13

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Posted 19 June 2010 - 10:49 PM

I wonder if they'll release any more snippets of his work as time progresses. I'd like to hear more, though I'm fairly confident that this game will probably boast the best Bond score of any of the games.

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 12:18 AM

David Arnold... Daniel Craid and Judi Dench... all first person... a new story, using elements of a working old one, re-imagined for a modern setting in the spirit of the reboot...

I have to say, this is shaping up the be the best Bond game since GoldenEye (or GoldenEye 1 as it now must be know). QOS went a long way to clearing out the decade of accumulated crap EA had smeared on the franchise, just making a few bad design choices and clearly having way too little time in development (hence about half the content being missing).

Activision, unlike EA, is apparently staffed by humans instead of sausage rolls, who are capable of learning from their mistakes. The lack of third person, (apart from the tank... grr.) and the decision to make a game actually based around GoldenEye than nick the title for a crappy shooter about a non-character like EA shows a level of understanding of Bond and the fans EA never had.

This is shaping up to be a genuinely exciting prospect. I just can't believe after choking down EoN and FRWL the Bond game we've all been waiting for is a Wii game! It might be too much to hope that this one sucks like the last seven. Damn (and praise) you Activision, or Nintendo, or whoever!

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 01:41 AM

The lack of third person, (apart from the tank... grr.) and the decision to make a game actually based around GoldenEye than nick the title for a crappy shooter about a non-character like EA shows a level of understanding of Bond and the fans EA never had.


Quite the opposite, IMHO.

This seems to be more of a generic COD-clone with only GE by name, along with utilising two of the most stale, Brosnan-leftovers from the Craig era - Dench and Arnold.

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 02:56 AM

The lack of third person, (apart from the tank... grr.) and the decision to make a game actually based around GoldenEye than nick the title for a crappy shooter about a non-character like EA shows a level of understanding of Bond and the fans EA never had.


Quite the opposite, IMHO.

This seems to be more of a generic COD-clone with only GE by name, along with utilising two of the most stale, Brosnan-leftovers from the Craig era - Dench and Arnold.


Minus the Arnold slam, I quite agree with you, Shark.

The measurement of my interest will be whether or not I actually cave and buy a Wii. At this point, I'm still not convinced. I just don't see the point in the project, overall.

On the otherhand, I'm fighting through Rare's Perfect Dark re-make for the Xbox lately, and quite enjoying it.

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 06:52 AM

I should really lay off. I admit I'm not gamer, so I'm not seeing the positive gaming aspects to this. I'm looking at this as a fan of the Bond universe, the continuing adventures of 007 in book, film, comics, and games, and after EoN, I feel like a Bond game can also be a great addition to the Bond mega canon. The very nature of this (from what we know so far) kinda keeps it from being that. But maybe that's the intent. Maybe they don't want it to represent any kind a new Bond story or continuation. They want it to represent pure Bond gaming at its best. And that is what "GoldenEye" means.

Ok, I've got my head around it now. B)


I think the scepticism is more than warranted. Some of the motives behind this project are painfully transparent, and I don't like what I see.

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 12:20 PM

Where did you hear about the bank crises story line?


It was mentioned in one of the E3 first impression articles posted a few days ago. I can't remember the exact quote but I know for sure they used the phrase "international banking crisis" storyline as opposed to the Cold War storyline of the original film & game.

Here's the link. Third paragraph.

Interesting Now i'm even MORE excited to get this.


curious what the new adventure (from 007.com) is about perhaps the new game will co-inside with Project X

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 02:23 PM

Nice to see that Arnold is doing the score. I'm interested to see how it compares to his recent movie efforts.

#221 zencat

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 03:01 PM

Craig/GoldenEye on the cover of Nintendo Magazine.

http://www.officialn...le.php?id=17772

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 04:03 PM

Damn not having a Wii, this looks quite good.

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 04:34 PM

Craig/GoldenEye on the cover of Nintendo Magazine.

http://www.officialn...le.php?id=17772

I wonder how detailed Nintendo Magazine will be with goldeneye.

The level and Zurkofsky's club has me praying I get to finally play cards as 007 (really hoping for Holdem poker)

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 05:10 PM

He doesn't play cards in the film, so I don't see why he has any need to in the game.

#225 zencat

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 05:14 PM

He doesn't play cards in the film, so I don't see why he has any need to in the game.

He doesn't?

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 07:09 PM

He doesn't play cards in the film, so I don't see why he has any need to in the game.

He doesn't?

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true

But here in lies the question will the Monte Carlo stuff happen or (since it's updated) Will bond meet Xenia in say Casino Royale in Montenegro?

And what of the card Game Baccarat (like in the original film) or Texas hold em (the Game Craig's bond tend to play)

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 07:14 PM

He doesn't play cards in the film, so I don't see why he has any need to in the game.

He doesn't?

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QuantumofSolace007 was referring to Zukovsky's club. Bond doesn't play cards there.

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 07:17 PM

He doesn't play cards in the film, so I don't see why he has any need to in the game.

He doesn't?

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QuantumofSolace007 was referring to Zukovsky's club. Bond doesn't play cards there.

true I was confusing Goldeneye and the world is not enough.

However bond does play cards in Goldeneye perhaps that will be included.


I mean just how much from the film are they using?

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 09:03 PM

i still can't believe they're replacing brosnan. smack in the face

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 09:42 PM

i still can't believe they're replacing brosnan. smack in the face


B)

You couldn't even see Brosnan in the game. They had text on the screen when conversations took place. It never ceases to amaze me how much crap DC gets for not being Pierce. It's obnoxious.

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 10:00 PM

Kind of like Call of Duty or Grand Theft Auto, if this game is a huge success, might we next see GoldenEye: Bloodstone, GoldenEye: Streets of Monaco (racing game), and so fourth?

It's possible, though it didn't much help the sales of GOLDENEYE: ROGUE AGENT.

Anyway, I'm pretty wary of this. I dug the original GOLDENEYE and would welcome an aesthetically updated version of the original for a new system, just for ol' time's sake (and so I wouldn't have to dig out my N64 every time I want to play), but it's quite apparent that this is really a whole new game trading in on the name of the original, and not really a loving update in the same way that METAL GEAR SOLID: TWIN SNAKES was a loving update of the original METAL GEAR SOLID. As such, it will be fairly easy for this to be just as mediocre as every Bond shooter we've had since GOLDENEYE.

What I'd give for a really, really good, entirely original Bond game. There's a lot of potential there, but it seems that the developers rarely have much imagination (EVERYTHING OR NOTHING being an exception to the rule, even though that game had its issues).

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 10:17 PM

i still can't believe they're replacing brosnan. smack in the face


B)

You couldn't even see Brosnan in the game. They had text on the screen when conversations took place. It never ceases to amaze me how much crap DC gets for not being Pierce. It's obnoxious.


yes but goldeneye was still "brosnan's movie" :tdown:

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 10:49 PM

i still can't believe they're replacing brosnan. smack in the face


B)

You couldn't even see Brosnan in the game. They had text on the screen when conversations took place. It never ceases to amaze me how much crap DC gets for not being Pierce. It's obnoxious.


yes but goldeneye was still "brosnan's movie" :tdown:

well it could be argued it fit Dalton better but that is neither here nor there. At least with the game i get to in a way see how Dalton would have approached the film.

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 10:57 PM

i still can't believe they're replacing brosnan. smack in the face


B)

You couldn't even see Brosnan in the game. They had text on the screen when conversations took place. It never ceases to amaze me how much crap DC gets for not being Pierce. It's obnoxious.


yes but goldeneye was still "brosnan's movie" :tdown:

well it could be argued it fit Dalton better but that is neither here nor there. At least with the game i get to in a way see how Dalton would have approached the film.


that was the reason why i used quotes and a wink with my comment.

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 12:05 AM

i still can't believe they're replacing brosnan. smack in the face


B)

You couldn't even see Brosnan in the game. They had text on the screen when conversations took place. It never ceases to amaze me how much crap DC gets for not being Pierce. It's obnoxious.


yes but goldeneye was still "brosnan's movie" :tdown:

well it could be argued it fit Dalton better but that is neither here nor there. At least with the game i get to in a way see how Dalton would have approached the film.


that was the reason why i used quotes and a wink with my comment.


LOL sadly some actually view it as a Brosnan film lol


I can;'t wait for the game honestly

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 01:09 AM

Craig/GoldenEye on the cover of Nintendo Magazine.

http://www.officialn...le.php?id=17772

The level and Zurkofsky's club has me praying I get to finally play cards as 007 (really hoping for Holdem poker)

Zurkofsky? Valentin Dmitrovich Zukovsky.

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 01:14 AM

Craig/GoldenEye on the cover of Nintendo Magazine.

http://www.officialn...le.php?id=17772

The level and Zurkofsky's club has me praying I get to finally play cards as 007 (really hoping for Holdem poker)

Zurkofsky? Valentin Dmitrovich Zukovsky.

Yes Why You know Him?

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 01:20 AM

Craig/GoldenEye on the cover of Nintendo Magazine.

http://www.officialn...le.php?id=17772

The level and Zurkofsky's club has me praying I get to finally play cards as 007 (really hoping for Holdem poker)

Zurkofsky? Valentin Dmitrovich Zukovsky.

Yes Why You know Him?

I was just trying to point out that "Zurkofsky" is not how his name is spelled.

#239 Quantumofsolace007

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 01:58 AM

Craig/GoldenEye on the cover of Nintendo Magazine.

http://www.officialn...le.php?id=17772

The level and Zurkofsky's club has me praying I get to finally play cards as 007 (really hoping for Holdem poker)

Zurkofsky? Valentin Dmitrovich Zukovsky.

Yes Why You know Him?

I was just trying to point out that "Zurkofsky" is not how his name is spelled.

and here i thought we were going to have a Goldeneye quoting war which you would reply "I gave him the limp"

but alas I was typing based on how I thought it was spelled sorry.

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 05:18 AM

i still can't believe they're replacing brosnan. smack in the face


B)

You couldn't even see Brosnan in the game. They had text on the screen when conversations took place. It never ceases to amaze me how much crap DC gets for not being Pierce. It's obnoxious.


yes but goldeneye was still "brosnan's movie" :tdown:

well it could be argued it fit Dalton better but that is neither here nor there. At least with the game i get to in a way see how Dalton would have approached the film.


that was the reason why i used quotes and a wink with my comment.


LOL sadly some actually view it as a Brosnan film lol


So that wasn't Pierce Brosnan playing Bond in the film? Sure looked like him. Hey thanks for pointing that out, boy I must have looked silly thinking it was Pierce Brosnan all these years.