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#301 Satorious

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 09:09 PM

Whoever said it reminded them of Tori Amos - Cornflake Girl (the part where she sings "And The Man With The Golden Gun"), :( :) Very observant! Many people are also saying it reminds them of Lulu's TMWTGG and Alice Cooper's. I think it's fair to see where White nicked all his inspiration and riffs from!

#302 NVT

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 09:31 PM

It is a lot easier to criticize than actually create something "better".

#303 Brix Bond

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 10:02 PM

THE WORST JAMES BOND SONG EVER... I AM SO SAD... I HAVE no WORDS... Babs and Michal are completelly crazy if they approved this piece of bad song writing... It'll flop in the charts and it will be remembered as another TRY ... BAD BAD BAD IT HURTS!


How thorough. I'll not bother seeing it now. You'll recall, however, that they approved Die Another Day as a whole.

#304 JackWade

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 10:45 PM

I have no understandings of the wordings. Is make none of sense, no? I have feelings that they should make Dame Bassey sing the zong before she has deathe. Why of why ken they not have the proper singers for to sing the 007. My idea was to have been to have write the wordings for the 007 Theme and then get Dame Bassey for to sing it. But this, this makes none of the sense. I have the like the beat tho - gets my tow taping.

Borat? Is that you?

#305 Mr_Wint

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 10:53 PM

I mean, it doesn't make sense... at all.

Hardly a first for a Bond song, though. I daresay incoherent, bizarre lyrics are par for the course.

You care about traditions now?

Welcome to the club :(

#306 Captain Tightpants

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 11:32 PM

I have no understandings of the wordings. Is make none of sense, no? I have feelings that they should make Dame Bassey sing the zong before she has deathe. Why of why ken they not have the proper singers for to sing the 007. My idea was to have been to have write the wordings for the 007 Theme and then get Dame Bassey for to sing it. But this, this makes none of the sense. I have the like the beat tho - gets my tow taping.

Actually, there is meaning in the lyrics, you just have to think abou them a little bit. This is wha I posted a few pages back:

I know the player with the slick trigger finger for Her Majesty
We establish that it's Bond. He's being likened to a pawn or a contestant in a game, which seems apt given what has gone before. "Slick trigger finger for Her Majesty" s another way of saying "hired gun".

Another one with the golden tone voice and then your fantasy
Alright, he's a smooth talker, and could probably sell sand to Saudi Arabia. He's easy to listen to and he's the kind of guy who lives in one's fantasies.

Another bill from a killer (inaudible) thriller to a tragedy
Again, he's a hired assassin, but that doesn't mean he's not human. The tragedy part is clearly relating to Vesper Lynd.

Well I'm gonna let it open (??)
A woman walking back (??)
A drop in the water
A look in the eye
I found it on the table
A man on your side

This is a little murkier, but I think it stll has meaning; it's not in there as filler or simply to rhyme. I think they're metaphors for finding something in a person that means you an trust them.

Of someone that you think that you can trust
You're just another way to die

This is what I was getting to in my last post: trust is the currency that Bond deals in. Each person that he begins to trust is potentially another way to get himself killed.

MMMMMmMMMMMMMmmMM
MmMMMMMMmmmmmmMm

This is filler, but it doesn't try to be clever about it.

Another tricky little gun giving solace to the one that will never see the sunshine
Bond is finding comfort in revenge: his gun will gve him solace. The second half relates to the idea that his hands are already stained with blood, so there's little reason to stay them now.

Another inch of your life sacrificed for your brotha in the nick of time
Sacrifice, pure and simple. Bond is giving up his soul so that someone else may benefit.

Another dirty money heaven-sent honey turning on a dime
'Dirty money' is likely relating to the poker winnings, or money used to buy another's loyalty. 'Heaven-sent honey' is Camille, or more likely Vesper as 'turning on a dime' is someone buying her loyalties.

There's certainly meaning, but the difference this time is that it's all metaphorical.

#307 Publius

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 11:55 PM

So is it just me who thinks it's similar to TMWTGG, or at least more similar to TMWTGG than to any other Bond song?

Especially the Alice Cooper version...

Never heard that suggested before. Nope... :)

http://debrief.comma...mp;#entry916639

Anyway, I like it. A lot. :( Didn't even have to grow on me like YKMN did. The titles will look great unfolding to this.

You care about traditions now?

Welcome to the club :)

I think he's saying that nonsensical lyrics are forgivable or even inconsequential, not that it's a tradition he prefers.

#308 whitesox

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:18 AM

Mods note: Which bit of "no links" confused?

#309 Simon

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:25 AM

Splendid...

I'm sure it will work a treat.

#310 Mister E

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:28 AM

Well I listened to it, the 1:48 minute version. I was right, it is a mediocre song with fairly lame lyrics. Not the worst yet but still, meh. Right down there with TND and TWINE.

#311 Mister E

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:31 AM

Well, that was fairly lame.

#312 Captain Tightpants

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:39 AM

Way better quality.

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:48 AM

Well I listened to it, the 1:48 minute version. I was right, it is a mediocre song with fairly lame lyrics. Not the worst yet but still, meh. Right down there with TND and TWINE.

Yet you don't bother to volunteer any ideas as to how it could be bettered ... I actually quite like it; I think it's one of the best we've have because it's neither just another modern song like they have been in the past, but nor is it a forgettable throwback to the Age of Connery simply because it can be. It's the best of both worlds, and it has a very unique sound that I quite enjoy.

#314 Mister E

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:52 AM

Yet you don't bother to volunteer any ideas as to how it could be bettered


Who says I have to ? I don't care. I don't like it. Hell, I could have said far worse.

#315 Blonde Bond

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:01 AM

it's neither just another modern song


Quite the opposite in fact.

It's very retro. It has this classic jazzy/bluesy thing going on. Can't see it doing very well on these 'hip 'N' kool' charts you've got on channels like MTV.

#316 Mister E

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:03 AM

it's neither just another modern song


Quite the opposite in fact.

It's very retro. It has this classic jazzy/bluesy thing going on. Can't see it doing very well on these 'hip 'N' kool' charts you've got on channels like MTV.


Are we listening to the same song ? Because this sounds EXACTLY like the same songs they play on the radio. I am not going to say MTV because they don't play music anymore. :( Now I am not nessecarily saying this as a criticism against the song but it isn't so retro that modern audiences wouldn't give it a listen.

#317 Bondian

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:03 AM

Sounds like a bridge to the previous effort 'YKMN'.

Not very catchy is it? :(

#318 Blonde Bond

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:05 AM

Better nate than lever.

Mods are going to really like you, since there's already a thread about the song existing, which also clearly states; no links, no requests...etc

Well, I'm no mod. So I'm leaving...

#319 Blonde Bond

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:11 AM

Well, you must clearly listen to more decent radio channels than I do :(


At least for my ears it sounds much classier than most of the crap I hear on the radio. Yes, I also listen to radio channels that play songs from the stone age. So it's not like I'm only exposed to this 'modern muzik'. It's only my opinion and my opinion is that it has a retro feel to it.

Or should I say; quasi-retro :) But it works for me.

#320 HildebrandRarity

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:15 AM

I feel like the only person on earth who hasn't heard this :(


I felt the same thing until I saw your post. Take heart and cheer the fact that you're not making a judgement call on something that isn't even a completed product.

Lyrics for YKMN were changed. Music for YKMN was changed. The movie version was not the same as the 4:03 version released on the net...And, here, people are critiquing and analysing something that's, what, 1 minute in lenght? That's recorded off the radio? Where you have to guess the lyrics?

People are funny!


I'm not allowed to like a bit of a song I heard?!

People are funny.


Oh definitely!

People have the free will to like or dislike anything on the planet.

What I think is funny, however, is to out-right lambaste something when it has not been processed for consumption as intended.

Why not give the whole song a listen as intended from an audio perspective and in context of its offering...before engaging in extreme negative criticism?

Forgive me for being a hypocrite for defending only one side of the equation.

#321 MR. BOND 93

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:22 AM

I like it, and will probably like it more as we see it in snippets of opening title footage and once we get a full version.

#322 Blonde Bond

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:22 AM

From the side that likes the song, let me just say; You've been forgiven.

#323 Mister E

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:27 AM

Or should I say; quasi-retro :( But it works for me.


I think that's the right term.

#324 Mr. Blofeld

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:34 AM

Hey, me likes! :(

#325 Double-0-7

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:36 AM

Like YKMN, this will probably get better the more we listen to it.

Definitely a whole new direction though...

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:37 AM

Am I the only one who really likes this, now? It's "off the chain", as Keys herself terms it! :(

#327 MR. BOND 93

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:37 AM

Like YKMN, this will probably get better the more we listen to it.

Definitely a whole new direction though...

:(

#328 HildebrandRarity

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:40 AM

From the side that likes the song, let me just say; You've been forgiven.


GoldenEye by Tina, Bono and Edge seems better with Klienmann's cool titles. On its own it's not so cool, i.m.o. In fact, for me, it drags and I now can't stomach listening to it fully on CD. On DVD, however, I actually like the song in combination w the visuals.

That's just one an example. Same for Gladys Knight's LTK. It's shorter and sexier in context of the movie's titles. On it's own it drags.

Moonraker too. Ditto DAD which is better served with it's visuals than on its own. Same with Garbage. Nothing Binder did helped Lulu's TMWTGG, on the other hand.

YKMN, for instance, is outstanding WITH Klienmann Casino Royale's Main titles.

Opinions only, of course.

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:41 AM

Like YKMN, this will probably get better the more we listen to it.

Definitely a whole new direction though...

Agreed. Usually takes me a few tries to like something. Perhaps it's why it took me 9 years to produce a son. :)

Like my hair. Probably it will grow on me. :(

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Posted 17 September 2008 - 01:47 AM

Well.. I need to listen the whole song at my seat on the movie to like it because right now I don't know if it's my mood or the song is not good.

EDIT: OMG I think love it hahaha, that damn chorus is now on my head!!

Edited by BlackFire, 17 September 2008 - 01:56 AM.