
"You Know My Name" - Discussion
#151
Posted 21 September 2006 - 12:28 PM
its growing on me each time i hear it
#152
Posted 21 September 2006 - 12:41 PM
As someone else mentioned, I like what's going on in the background. It's subtle, even if mixed too low, but gives me some Bondian chills. As geeky as it will sound, I keep imagining what the main titles are going to be like with this song. The more and more I listen, the more it seems to fit what I've seen of CR so far.
For my money, it's the best Bond theme since AVTAK.
#153
Posted 21 September 2006 - 12:44 PM
Bit meh... but however some Bond themes do look a lot better in the title sequence so I'll await the context before I comment.
That being said my favourite Bond theme is TMWTGG so...
#154
Posted 21 September 2006 - 12:52 PM
For my money, it's the best Bond theme since AVTAK.
I think it's the best since "Die Another Day".
#155
Posted 21 September 2006 - 01:03 PM

darthbond
#156
Posted 21 September 2006 - 01:13 PM
Not the sort of thing I'd listen to if it wasn't associated with James Bond.
#157
Posted 21 September 2006 - 01:18 PM
#158
Posted 21 September 2006 - 01:24 PM
For my money, it's the best Bond theme since AVTAK.
I think it's the best since "Die Another Day".
You set a high bar. For myself I'm just extremely releaved that it is better than DAD. It could have been worse.
#159
Posted 21 September 2006 - 01:42 PM
Yes, there are a couple of good things about it (MTM mentioned the Ian Brown-style trumpets, and I concur), but, overall, it's horrible. It sounds like a speeded-up version of Spinal Tap's "Rock & Roll Creation" meeting Arnold's usual hamfisted treatment of The James Bond Theme, with hilariously crap lyrics and vocals that sound as though they were recorded while being beaten up by Daniel Craig in a "bathroom". It's hideous and inappropriate beyond belief.
Now, I still think CASINO ROYALE will be a good film, but, with all due respect to anyone who may be due any, I do believe they dropped the ball on the song. Yes, considerably.

#160
Posted 21 September 2006 - 01:46 PM
Can't find it anywhere! Stupid world with its stupid countries and stupid release dates!
Now my only hope is I'll like it when I finally hear it.
I am not gonna be happy if I found out they butchered a Bond song.
Although CC had me at the first guitar strokes in the featurette...
#161
Posted 21 September 2006 - 01:54 PM
If you post the link you'll be banned. If you request the link you'll be warned!
#162
Posted 21 September 2006 - 01:56 PM
Don't request or post the song on CommanderBond.net.
If you post the link you'll be banned. If you request the link you'll be warned!
Or, in other words...
LEARN
TO
READ
We're really not joking about this, you know.
#163
Posted 21 September 2006 - 01:56 PM
[quote name='Loomis' post='610706' date='21 September 2006 - 11:07']
[quote name='Harmsway' post='610543' date='21 September 2006 - 06:43']
I am amazed that anybody would call this the worst Bond song of all. I'd take it without any reservation over TMWTGG, FYEO, OP, TLD, GE, TND, and DAD
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Most of those are classics, and you still hear "For Your Eyes Only" and "All Time High" played all over the world, and sometimes in the most unlikely contexts (e.g. as the opening music for an Inner Mongolia news broadcast, or as muzak in a supermarket in Kazakhstan). They've stood the test of time.
"You Know My Name", bless it, won't.
And I'd disagree that it won't affect the film. If we were talking about most films, it wouldn't, but Bond films aren't "most films", they're special cases, with their theme songs being played to death for decades. Okay, I didn't like that song over the closing credits of GOLDENEYE, can't even recall its name it's so unmemorable, but the point is that it wasn't the main one - Tina Turner's one was. Yeah, it's cheesy, it's MOR, it doesn't have an original bone in its body, and it might as well be sung by Wayne Newton in Vegas. But it works.
I don't dislike YKMN, but I understand why many do, and, no, I don't think it's exactly got Perfect Bond Song written all over it. Neither do I feel that criticisms of it should be dismissed as though we were talking about just one of many tracks on the OST of just another film. And, yes, I much prefer Madonna's "Die Another Day". Besides, knocking YKMN doesn't equate to calling for the head of Daniel Craig or saying that CR will suck because it bends the timeline, and so on.
But it's all personal taste at the end of the day.

Just to point out, though, I'm by no means just a fan of safe, conservative, middle-of-the-road music. I like The Fall, for heaven's sake. But I never thought the day would come when I'd think Mark E. Smith and co. could probably record a more "traditional" Bond song than the official one!

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Well put, as always, Loomis. However, I disagree with your assumption that "You know my name" will not stand the test of time. Many people said this about "Live and let die" when it was released - and were wrong.
It all comes down to this: it was never meant to be a more "traditional" Bond song. Because "CR" is not meant to be a "traditional" Bond film. We had 20 of them. Let
#164
Posted 21 September 2006 - 02:01 PM
You've taken the words right out of my keyboard.Sorry (although I don't know why I'm apologising), but my final verdict is this: "You Know My Name" is, by a considerable distance, the worst James Bond song ever. Ever. So, yes, that includes that FYEO poolside disco number that goes "Push it! Push it good!" or whatever, and even "Dirty Love".
Yes, there are a couple of good things about it (MTM mentioned the Ian Brown-style trumpets, and I concur), but, overall, it's horrible. It sounds like a speeded-up version of Spinal Tap's "Rock & Roll Creation" meeting Arnold's usual hamfisted treatment of The James Bond Theme, with hilariously crap lyrics and vocals that sound as though they were recorded while being beaten up by Daniel Craig in a "bathroom". It's hideous and inappropriate beyond belief.
Now, I still think CASINO ROYALE will be a good film, but, with all due respect to anyone who may be due any, I do believe they dropped the ball on the song. Yes, considerably.

I cannot see how this song is going to sell the movie and attract anyone to go and see it. But I'm not going to say anymore about it as I've already expressed my views earlier.
I was hoping for a catchy tune that automatically tells you it's a bond. But it could be from any movie - especially a kind of Van Dam flick.
Cheers,
Ian
#165
Posted 21 September 2006 - 02:08 PM
#166
Posted 21 September 2006 - 02:11 PM
The melody and opening chord sequence will translate to slower orchestral treatments quite nicely.
But in the end, this will go down as one of the most unmemorable additions in the whole history of OO7 theme songs. Chris Cornell has proven to be a pretty one-dimensional performer - sure, great voice - but this is pretty much what I expected: hard rock sing/scream ending blah blah blah... I wish they could have pushed the envelop a bit more....
#167
Posted 21 September 2006 - 02:15 PM
A GOLDFRAPP song would be lots better, without doubt.
As I said earlier, I won't be expecting more additional surprises from the original score perspective. REMEMBER it was written by David Arnold, so it can't be any good. 100% sure it will be very unmemorable and a copy paste of earlier John Barry works.
BAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
#168
Posted 21 September 2006 - 02:18 PM
Sounds like a song you'd see stuck on someone's MySpace profile.
I do plan to stick it on my profile if/when it becomes available on MySpace.

#169
Posted 21 September 2006 - 02:21 PM
I actually find the chorus quite catchy. But I do agree with people who say it's not very memorable or pushing the envelope. No, it's not typically Bondian.
I don't feel any disappointment, but then my expectations weren't high at all. The title song isn't such a big deal to me. I'll be more interested to see (or hear) how good the score is.

#170
Posted 21 September 2006 - 02:23 PM
And an instrumental main credits theme...oooh.
#171
Posted 21 September 2006 - 02:48 PM
But "I haven't made my mind" option would be more close to the truth.
I absolutely adore Audioslave's last two albums & that kind of music.
However I cant yet decide what I like/dislike about this song. It's a solid rock/Post-grunge etc. song, but I'm not sure how it fares with the classic bond themes. How will public remember the song, when it doesn't feature Casino Royale in it's lyrics. Instead of being titled Casino Royale,it features altogether different name.
It's yet another main theme song, which doesn't follow the set "policy" of bond themes. My first thought was something like " it's good, but is it bondian ?"
However, the first time I heard it, I listened it about 20 times and it started to grow on me, when I was listening it about the third time. It's great thematic song. It helped me much, when I checked the lyrics from this forum.
#172
Posted 21 September 2006 - 03:03 PM
I do, however endorse the idea of having faster-paced title songs. I think it's deadly to drastically down-shift the tempo with some kind of droning ballad after seeing an exciting pre-title sequence.
Teeny-tiny/itsy-bitsy 'non-spoiler': (Pity they didn't work in the chapter title "Whisper of love, whisper of hate" from CR many people were hoping for).
That said, title songs are best when they accurately reflect the Bond film. "Goldfinger" and "Live And Let Die" aren't just great songs, but they represent the film. "Moonraker" is out of place because it's such a slow, romantic song that has nothing to do with the film itself. This new tune, being radically different and somewhat raw (although hardly original), may very well be in tune with the film itself. In which case I at least appreciate the effort.
#173
Posted 21 September 2006 - 03:16 PM
I showed the trailer to friends at work, and they feel the movie is more of a thriller, where they have also said that bond has a young look about him (hairstyle possibly). I cant wait for the movie cos things are getting better and better day by day.
Asim
#174
Posted 21 September 2006 - 03:21 PM
Since both Sound Garden, and Pearl Jam both come from my home town- it's pretty much the same as any other angst rock format, IMHO.
#175
Posted 21 September 2006 - 03:23 PM
*hmmm chewing it over like a new food I've never tried before... * Ptoo!! spits it out* * trying it again, this time with a condiment to disguise the taste! *gulp!!* managed to swallow it down!! * getting nauseous, running to the bathroon, where's the Pepto Bismol??!! lol* Needs more condiments like ketchup or BBQ sauce, which may come when I finally hear the whole tune!! lol
Honestly, I'm middle of the road about it.. It has potential, and is certainly WAY BETTER than Die Another Day!.. But I hate Chris Cornell's screaming at the end.. sounds like he had an unfortunate encounter with Le Chiffre's carpet beater!! lol

It may yet turn out to be good, depending on how it fits in with the film and what the entire song is like.


#176
Posted 21 September 2006 - 03:28 PM
#177
Posted 21 September 2006 - 03:36 PM
That is supposed to be a Bond theme, I thought ? Rammstein did far better in xXx.
But when I listened to the complete song for the first time, you know, this "not too bad" feeling overwhelmed me. And then I heart it again........and again.....and again...and again..and again.and againand again .... you know what I mean.
I am a guitarist, I love Rammstein & Metallica and listen to all sorts of Rock etc. Maybe that's a reason why I like the song - but it goes beyond. It's a Bond theme - something I didn't think when I listened to it the first time.
Especially the beginning is so Bondian, and Cornell has a very good voice - very smooth, near to someone singing ballads. The guitar solo sounds very advanced and I will have a hard time to figure it out (I will start as soon as I've finished posting this stuff) and I like the clean and well played sound. They know to play the guitar.
I'm still wondering how this will fit into the rest of the movie. DAD had a lot of electronic sounds due the whole thing - maybe we get a lot of Rock in this one.
It's different - yes. And it doesn't come close to the best. It's to close to normal Rock music to be remembered. But it certainly does its job and is more than a solid Bond song. I love it, though it probably won't write history.
#178
Posted 21 September 2006 - 03:46 PM
Sorry (although I don't know why I'm apologising), but my final verdict is this: "You Know My Name" is, by a considerable distance, the worst James Bond song ever. Ever. So, yes, that includes that FYEO poolside disco number that goes "Push it! Push it good!" or whatever, and even "Dirty Love".
Yes, there are a couple of good things about it (MTM mentioned the Ian Brown-style trumpets, and I concur), but, overall, it's horrible. It sounds like a speeded-up version of Spinal Tap's "Rock & Roll Creation" meeting Arnold's usual hamfisted treatment of The James Bond Theme, with hilariously crap lyrics and vocals that sound as though they were recorded while being beaten up by Daniel Craig in a "bathroom". It's hideous and inappropriate beyond belief.
Now, I still think CASINO ROYALE will be a good film, but, with all due respect to anyone who may be due any, I do believe they dropped the ball on the song. Yes, considerably.
I respect your opinion, Loomis. But worse than the FYEO poolside disco number or "Dirty Love"? You
#179
Posted 21 September 2006 - 03:48 PM
With the possible exceptions of TLD and TND, I agree, and I'd include YOLT, DAF, and TWINE in that list as well. Maybe even MR, which I only love for the upbeat version at the end. And I like the vocals better than Bassey's for GF (too much shrieking).I'd take it without any reservation over TMWTGG, FYEO, OP, TLD, GE, TND, and DAD
Yeah, I think so too. Or just drop them outright. Those two parts are the only thing I think gives this song a "cheapy" feel. Everything else can be worked into any number of different arragements, all of which could sound great.It would be considerably better without the "forget how to feel" and "spin of the wheel" echo. A back-up singer might make those bits better.
#180
Posted 21 September 2006 - 04:08 PM