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[Alessandra]

[quote name='Welshcat' date='13 October 2005 - 23:27'][quote name='Dalton's Wendy' date='13 October 2005 - 22:10']
Ale Darling --What else would you expect two babes as sexy as you and I to wear other than "The Pearl"?

Edited by Alessandra, 14 October 2005 - 01:12 PM.

[JameswpBond]

hugh jackman is nothing special and would turn james bond into a bigger joke than it was with pierce brosnan.

[Alessandra]

hugh jackman is nothing special and would turn james bond into a bigger joke than it was with pierce brosnan.

Well dear.. you're a man (from your nickname), so there are certain things you can't judge in a man like a woman would do!!!
And Pierce Brosnan was great as Bond. Hugh Jackman is not only a terrific actor, but a gorgeous, sexy, classy, elegant man. In a word: Bond.

PS: btw, Pierce Brosnan and Hugh Jackman are BY FAR the two first choices of people for Bond. Check out the MSNBC poll. they have some 27,000 and 26,000 votes each. the closest one is Clive Owen who has some 8,000 LESS votes. (18,000). All the others just can't even dream to get close. Craig was merely above 2,000.
So it's pretty clear where the public favour resides.

Edited by Alessandra, 14 October 2005 - 01:28 PM.

[Michigansoftball#1]

Than k God the Brosnan era is over...that guy was total c*ap in the last three movies.

Sign me up for the anti-Brosnan brigade.

[B5Erik]

hugh jackman is nothing special and would turn james bond into a bigger joke than it was with pierce brosnan.

I completely disagree.

Jackman was great as Wolverine (probably the grittiest and most testosterone driven character in recent memory), as well as being very good in romantic roles (Kate & Leopold), Action movies (Van Helsing, he was great even if the script sucked), and Broadway Musicals. Has range and depth. And he looks like a Connery-esque Bond.

He'd be perfect.

Who knows, if CR is as much of a box office disappointment as I suspect it may be, he might get a shot at Bond 22. I'm not holding my breath, but it could happen - and it would be a good thing.

[Alessandra]

Than k God the Brosnan era is over...that guy was total c*ap in the last three movies.

Sign me up for the anti-Brosnan brigade.

I suggest you go check the figures for revenue thanks to Brosnan.. and compare them with the total Bond revenue of all times and see for how much the Brosnan movies account. Then we'll rediscuss the subject.
PS: pretty much everyone comes to this thread because they're PRO Brosnan and Dalton and ANTI Craig as per the title of the thread. I wouldn't expect too much solidarity if I were you!!!
but I do like your humour

[Dalton's Wendy]

I fear those figures say more about those posting than the subject of their posts.

A cursory examination of the joining dates of the recent posters in this thread would support your comment.

Now, just one moment, my friend.

If you are making reference to the recent arrival of my friend Alessandra and myself (and I presume that you are, since our combined membership on this forum totals less than sixty days) then we should like the opportunity to defend ourselves, and our seemingly frivolous remarks.

Yes, it is true that we are mere babes in comparison to others who have been posting here for years; notwithstanding the foregoing, we do have valid points of view. Bear in mind the old saying out of the mouths of babes, if you will kindly pardon the allusion.

As females, Alessandra and I offer a fresh and different insight into the world of James Bond. True, we are, perhaps neither as knowledgable about, nor as interested in, guns, fights, and cars exploding, as are males, but we do have our tastes and interests in other aspects of the movie.

And where do those tastes and interests lie? In the visual aspect -- of the stars, and, most particularly, the star: Bond himself. If Bond is not attractive, not appealing, we will be disenchanted. We will turn away from the movie, perhaps from the subject itself.

It must be remembered that females do comprise a large portion of the population, and, therefore, of the movie-going, ticket-purchasing, public, as well. And before we females purchase those tickets (or accompany a male as his guest), we want to make certain that we will enjoy the film.

And if the central character of that film -- the man of our dreams since our childhood -- is not attractive, is not appealing, then we will choose not to see the movie. We will discourage our friends from so doing. Poor box-office receipts do not encourage producers of future endeavours.

Our voice, silly, vacuous, and irreverent as it may sound to seasoned students of Bond, is not without consequence.

[Sam Fisher]

It is my sad duty to disband the Anti Daniel Craig Brigade

Due to the fact that he's officially James Bnd I see no point in leading the charge aginst him. YES we all know he's the wrong man for the job but rest in the knowledge that it's not on our consciences if and or when he mucks the job up.

Is Daniel Craig the best Bond since Connery? Hell no.

What about George Lazenby? Hell No

Roger Moore then? Another Hell No

Timothy Dalton Perhaps? Better guess again.

Pierce Bronsan? Well....excluding Tomoorwo never dies and Die Another Day....


The point is that Daniel Craig (here I'm guessing) will the the first official Bond that rubbed the moviegoing public the wrong way. Take comfort in the knowledge that Eon and Sony have only themselvs to blame.


-Sam the Splinter Cell

Edited by Sam Fisher, 14 October 2005 - 04:47 PM.

[Alessandra]

I fear those figures say more about those posting than the subject of their posts.

A cursory examination of the joining dates of the recent posters in this thread would support your comment.

Now, just one moment, my friend.

If you are making reference to the recent arrival of my friend Alessandra and myself (and I presume that you are, since our combined membership on this forum totals less than sixty days) then we should like the opportunity to defend ourselves, and our seemingly frivolous remarks.

Yes, it is true that we are mere babes in comparison to others who have been posting here for years; notwithstanding the foregoing, we do have valid points of view. Bear in mind the old saying out of the mouths of babes, if you will kindly pardon the allusion.

As females, Alessandra and I offer a fresh and different insight into the world of James Bond. True, we are, perhaps neither as knowledgable about, nor as interested in, guns, fights, and cars exploding, as are males, but we do have our tastes and interests in other aspects of the movie.

And where do those tastes and interests lie? In the visual aspect -- of the stars, and, most particularly, the star: Bond himself. If Bond is not attractive, not appealing, we will be disenchanted. We will turn away from the movie, perhaps from the subject itself.

It must be remembered that females do comprise a large portion of the population, and, therefore, of the movie-going, ticket-purchasing, public, as well. And before we females purchase those tickets (or accompany a male as his guest), we want to make certain that we will enjoy the film.

And if the central character of that film -- the man of our dreams since our childhood -- is not attractive, is not appealing, then we will choose not to see the movie. We will discourage our friends from so doing. Poor box-office receipts do not encourage producers of future endeavours.

Our voice, silly, vacuous, and irreverent as it may sound to seasoned students of Bond, is not without consequence.

I won't steal space for rehiterating what Wendy already said.
What I DO want to add is the following: I am a sports journalist, I'm the only girl in a group of over 40 people who cover this subject for the agency I work for worldwide. and i'm the only girl of the family with THREE brothers.
If you think in ANY way you can intimidate me because you're making insulting remarks as a guy, you're VERY mistaken.
Aside from the fact you should at least apologise for what you said (because we've never insulted anyone personally.. and not even Mr Craig whom we've repeatedly cited as a good actor but just ugly, and that, my dear, is a FACT and not an insult), I'll have you know that I probably know as much as you do about cars and men (if not more) given the job I have and do with -trust me- a more than decent success. I always win bets with my male colleagues on teams that will be on the pitch for the Sunday soccer game I cover, or the Champions League game I cover. And I get to hang out with the sports stars that YOU GUYS gush over just as much as us ladies. Correct, MORE than we do.
Plus, I am very much into fashion, style and all that. And so is Wendy.
So hey... looking at Bond we can see MORE THINGS than the ones you seem to care about. (which evidently don't include the look of Bond.. well sorry, that is fundamental to the movie).
So sorry if we have a more ways of looking at things.. this forum is made up mainly by men, but I've always found them nice and even though I did discuss lots of themes with a few of them, NOBODY has ever been insulting like you have.
Well guess what, people insult when they have little other argument to carry out.
You like Daniel Craig? then you should make your point in a totally different way. And anyway, being offensive to people just doesn't work.
We will NOT go to the movies to see Bond.. and along with us, LOTS of women.. who make up a LOT of the movie audience.
As very well Wendy said, our opinion won't stand without consequences.

[Alessandra]

It is my sad duty to disband the Anti Daniel Craig Brigade

Due to the fact that he's officially James Bnd I see no point in leading the charge aginst him. YES we all know he's the wrong man for the job but rest in the knowledge that it's not on our consciences if and or when he mucks the job up.

Is Daniel Craig the best Bond since Connery? Hell no.

What about George Lazenby? Hell No

Roger Moore then? Another Hell No

Timothy Dalton Perhaps? Better guess again.

Pierce Bronsan? Well....excluding Tomoorwo never dies and Die Another Day....


The point is that Daniel Craig (here I'm guessing) will the the first official Bond that rubbed the moviegoing public the wrong way. Take comfort in the knowledge that Eon and Sony have only themselvs to blame.


-Sam the Splinter Cell

Sam.. the things just need to be done in a different way.. and rather than being simply ANTI I suggest we are CRITIC.
I don't think we need to dismantle the brigade, but simply to open a different thread. BTW I am thinking of opening one with Wendy just for the pleasure of letting everyone know what the above guys said merely to offend us.
So join...
I think one point is clear: wendy and I are doing this humourously, as much as everyone else with those hilarious one liners last night.. and those who don't get it.. well too bad for them.
it is not a negativity thing we're on to, but a critic with the right humour of the choice of Craig, which will bring us to wait for the DVD of Casino Royale.
He's there, right, and our opinion is the same as yesterday.
And we will gladly watch whatever portion of the movie comes out from time to time before the release and judge FAIRLY.
Still, the guy to us just isn't James Bond (And his looks today horrified me even more than the pictures eeeekk!!), and that's what poses the problem and what people at Eon and Sony should be thinking about.
and liiighhhtennn uppppppp!!!
We're about to offer some first-quality entertainment with the new thread, I promise!

[Felix_Leiter]

Wow, you people are so quick to judge. He hasn't even shot a bloody scene yet! Why don't you wait to see him in action first?

Such prejudice.

[Jim]

We're about to offer some first-quality entertainment with the new thread, I promise!

Hmm.

Well, at least you'll be trying something new.

[JameswpBond]

I don't see the point of this thread we're all getting the film we wanted and Daniel Craig isn't ugly .

[Michigansoftball#1]

The point is that Daniel Craig (here I'm guessing) will the the first official Bond that rubbed the moviegoing public the wrong way.

You obviously weren't around in 1969 and 1987.

[Kingdom Come]

I'm going to have to jump ships men. Having seen Craig on a BBC NEWS 24 segment he does look good. There IS a quality to him.

[Alessandra]

We're about to offer some first-quality entertainment with the new thread, I promise!

Hmm.

Well, at least you'll be trying something new.

now Jim. it's the second time you try and be offensive to me, by implying either that I cannot reason or that I'm narrow minded.
now.. I've been finely entertained on here. Because if you read some of the lines, they are seriously funny. If you like Craig, perfect, wonderful. just don't come over here with the purpose to insult people, in a direct or subtle manner.
Craig is the ONLY, I underline ONLY Bond actor whom I don't like. I've more than welcomed Dalton when he arrived, same with pierce (obvious same with connery and moore, even though moore is my least favourite, but I still was more than ok with his coming). So thanks, I've tried something new many times with Bond. Only, THIS particular new, is someone I don't like.
and that's all.

[V007]

If Fleming were alive today, he would drop dead tomorrow. Blond Bond Craig? The producers and him should eat his gun.

[Alessandra]

Wow, you people are so quick to judge. He hasn't even shot a bloody scene yet! Why don't you wait to see him in action first?

Such prejudice.

Felix dear. it is NOT prejudice, it is opinion. We don't think the man has the features of Bond,to us, he hasn't got the looks, the class, or the style. and there's NO makeup or clothing which will change that.
OK?? he's a very good actor, but doesn't look like Bond to us.
If someone doesn't look like Bond to me, I won't go see him act, because I am not interested! I find him ugly and unstilish, and instead the reason why I like Bond as a man is that he is goodlooking and stilish.
I repeat for the thousandth time: I love Al Pacino. He's a terrific actor (and far better than Craig). But I would never want him as Bond, because he is just not Bond!!
Same applies to Craig. Whom I find ugly and unstilish. I don't want him as Bond, and won't go see him as Bond. I'll watch the movie when t he DVD is released.

[luciusgore]

Craig looks good in the still Eon posted. He is not a pretty boy but I think he'll do well in the role.

[Dalton's Wendy]

We're about to offer some first-quality entertainment with the new thread, I promise!

Hmm.

Well, at least you'll be trying something new.

The city never sleeps!

In the immortal words of Canada's late Prime Minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau:
"Just watch us go!"

[Alessandra]

I don't see the point of this thread we're all getting the film we wanted and Daniel Craig isn't ugly .

I can see you say Daniel Craig isn't ugly, you're the same who said Hugh Jackman is nothing special..!!
90 percent of women would tell you you're VERY mistaken.

[marktmurphy]

90 percent of women would tell you you're VERY mistaken.

Sienna Miller and Kate Moss would tell you otherwise. As would quite a few women I know.

(Incidentally- did you catch the bit in the press conference where the producers said that the Fiat Panda talk was 'just rumour'? ).

[JameswpBond]

Wow, you people are so quick to judge. He hasn't even shot a bloody scene yet! Why don't you wait to see him in action first?

Such prejudice.

Felix dear. it is NOT prejudice, it is opinion. We don't think the man has the features of Bond,to us, he hasn't got the looks, the class, or the style. and there's NO makeup or clothing which will change that.
OK?? he's a very good actor, but doesn't look like Bond to us.
If someone doesn't look like Bond to me, I won't go see him act, because I am not interested! I find him ugly and unstilish, and instead the reason why I like Bond as a man is that he is goodlooking and stilish.
I repeat for the thousandth time: I love Al Pacino. He's a terrific actor (and far better than Craig). But I would never want him as Bond, because he is just not Bond!!
Same applies to Craig. Whom I find ugly and unstilish. I don't want him as Bond, and won't go see him as Bond. I'll watch the movie when t he DVD is released.

[Mods Note: Post Removed. Keep the insults away Jameswp, last warning! ]

[marktmurphy]

Same applies to Craig. Whom I find ugly and unstilish. I don't want him as Bond, and won't go see him as Bond. I'll watch the movie when t he DVD is released.

Out of interest, have you actually seen him act? In say, Layer Cake or Archangel? I find your idea that he isn't 'stylish' very strange- especially considering these roles.

[Sam Fisher]

90 percent of women would tell you you're VERY mistaken.

Sienna Miller and Kate Moss would tell you otherwise. As would quite a few women I know.

(Incidentally- did you catch the bit in the press conference where the producers said that the Fiat Panda talk was 'just rumour'? ).

I guess we'll be seeing the olde Bently?

[Qwerty]

[Mods Note: Keep the insults away Jameswp, last warning! ]

[Alessandra]

90 percent of women would tell you you're VERY mistaken.

Sienna Miller and Kate Moss would tell you otherwise. As would quite a few women I know.

(Incidentally- did you catch the bit in the press conference where the producers said that the Fiat Panda talk was 'just rumour'? ).

lol Mark I DID CATCH that bit. Now I'm wondering what's up with that. Since it was an official statement, not a rumour. but I am home with a temperature and not talking to the Fiat press office today! I promise I will get back to you on that.

on Sienna Miller there is no certainty.
as for Kate Moss, as I have already explained here, she does NOT like goodlooking types, and has never had a gorgeous boyfriend. Taken a look at her current boy?? eeewwwww!!!
she likes the "damned and mysterious" type. with bohemien look. Like Johnny Depp. And Daniel Craig.
Handsome and goodlooking is another thing.

besides... none of them have EVER had a chance with Hugh, so nothing says that if they had to pick among the two they would pick Craig! (although kate moss probably would, given her taste for unattractive men!)

[WC]

It is my sad duty to disband the Anti Daniel Craig Brigade

Due to the fact that he's officially James Bnd I see no point in leading the charge aginst him. YES we all know he's the wrong man for the job but rest in the knowledge that it's not on our consciences if and or when he mucks the job up.

Is Daniel Craig the best Bond since Connery? Hell no.

What about George Lazenby? Hell No

Roger Moore then? Another Hell No

Timothy Dalton Perhaps? Better guess again.

Pierce Bronsan? Well....excluding Tomoorwo never dies and Die Another Day....


The point is that Daniel Craig (here I'm guessing) will the the first official Bond that rubbed the moviegoing public the wrong way. Take comfort in the knowledge that Eon and Sony have only themselvs to blame.


-Sam the Splinter Cell

Noooo!! Disbandment! Say it isn't so! I tried to start up the anti-Broccoli brigade to stamp out all Broccolis in every supermarket in the land, but Zencat quickly closed that thread!

Surely there must be a reason for the Anti-Craig Brigade to exist, even if just to reminisce or share good times or something. Maybe a form of therapy. If we gathered enough members, we could form our own website, write our own songs, have our own conventions. We could even invite Daniel Craig along as a guest of honour to toss some tomatoes on one occasion.

The potential is endless. Don't end the brigade!!!

[Sam Fisher]

I think it'll live on without me Welshcat. However I'll still be around to support the anti brigade. At least we have common sense about James Bond and will not support the sucker of the moment.

[Alessandra]

Same applies to Craig. Whom I find ugly and unstilish. I don't want him as Bond, and won't go see him as Bond. I'll watch the movie when t he DVD is released.

Out of interest, have you actually seen him act? In say, Layer Cake or Archangel? I find your idea that he isn't 'stylish' very strange- especially considering these roles.

lol Yes, as mentioned before here, I did watch Layer Cake! was a nightmare to find it, had to have it shipped from england, nowhere available here!
And yes very good actor and no zero style. Proven, I'm afraid, today by his suit and that HIDEOUS tie!! lol and the way he fixed the button of the jacket when he rose from the press conference....and the way he walked in a suit...
I suggest a LOT of Cary Grant watching for him before going on to Bond!!!