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[Sam Fisher]

I suppose it can't be that bad? So what if he's James Bond? At least he's not Croatian or 22 right? Sorry, but I simply cannot jump on the bandwagon, this is wrong...very wrong.

I say B.F.D. and let the Daniel Craig [censored]kissers choke on the cake they're eating. I know alot of people will watch Royale due to the fact that it's a Bond film but I really don't know anymore. Craig being picked for a role he doesn't deserve to play weakens not only my faith in Bond but my faith in a higher power as well.

Daniel Craig will NOT be my James Bond. I can only sit back and see what happens but I'll be crossing my fingers for a failure. If I'm wrong no big deal or skin off my back, not to mention hard feelings.

I really want this to be a bad dream. It's a damn good thing there will be better movies in '06 Than Casino ROyale.

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Edited by Mister Asterix, 13 October 2005 - 09:15 AM.

[butterhook007]

Slorry to reign on this parade, but I am probably the biggest Bond fan in Los Angeles, and all I have to say is that Eon, Sony and MGM are making a HUGE mistake, first in not paying Brosnan what he deserves for making them over a BILLION dollars in the past decade in one final and cool 5th film, and second for casting Daniel Craig. The guy is too dour, too short, too doofy and too working class for Bond.

Sony is looking at the Jason Bourne movies and thinking, "We need to do THAT." No, Bond has always had an element of fantasy to him. We all want to be the guy who walks in and can pick out which chick he's going to nail. Does Daniel Craig seem like that? We don't need Bond to be Jason Bourne or Jack Bauer (TV's 24) or even XXX, he is meant to be Bond. When Brosnan took over the franchise, the world was WAITING for him to finally get the role that most people agreed Dalton just didn't do that well. Nobody outside of the British indie circuit knows who Craig is, and I think that will hurt the next movie. Cast an unknown for Superman, but Bond needs to be somewhat known (outside of Tomb Raider and Layer Cake and a few BBC TV roles). Don't believe that Brosnan will be the toughest act to follow? Why is it that Dalton's Bond films are the lowest of the box office and Brosnan's are the highest second only to a Thunderball and Goldfinger (adjusted grosses - I'm sure someone here will correct me)? Why is it that most polls show that the PUBLIC wants to keep Brosnan for one more film nearly 3-to-1?

Brosnan came along when we NEEDED Bond back in our lives, along with Sinatra, martinis, cigars and apparently ballroom dancing. He redefined the role and, in my opinion, combined the seriousness of Dalton with the charm of Connery and Moore. Plus, and this is fairly crucial nowadays, CHICKS DIG HIM. I showed a few pictures of Daniel Craig to my wife, and she said, "Uh, no."

Brosnan begged for the past six or seven years for grittier and edgier scripts, free from the escalating effects and one-liners that were starting to pile up as they did with the Moore films. So NOW the Brocolli offspring want to go 'edgy' and they give it to a different actor? Boooooo. And if they do want to go younger, give it to someone YOUNGER. Craig is 37 and looks like a guy that will not age well. See the attached picture -- it pretty much sums it up. He's about four inches shorter than Brosnan and looks like the head water at Brosnan's Malibu restaurant. Again, I'm a Bond fan, but I think I'll take my DVD's and finally call it quits. This new film will be a turd.

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[Pussfeller]

Which one is Doofy Bond?

[Eye Of The Tiger]

Agreed, Pierce Brosnan is still the best man for the job, and Daniel Craig would be a terrible choice!

[K1Bond007]

Daniel Craig will NOT be my James Bond. I can only sit back and see what happens but I'll be crossing my fingers for a failure. If I'm wrong no big deal or skin off my back, not to mention hard feelings.

You're really hoping just because you have ill-feelings about an actor that the movie is a failure? You consider yourself a Bond fan and you want that? What if by his failure the series dies (and I don't agree that a failure would do this - speaking hypothetically here). You want that as a Bond fan?

This just seems silly and petty to me just so you can say "I told you so". That just blows my mind dude. Hell, when SilverFin and the idea of a Young Bond at the age of 13 was released I hated it and thought it was an instant failure, but I didn't wish it doom. In the end, it surprised me and I liked it.

[killkenny kid]

Well, I think that...... all to easy.

[Eye Of The Tiger]

Daniel Craig will NOT be my James Bond. I can only sit back and see what happens but I'll be crossing my fingers for a failure. If I'm wrong no big deal or skin off my back, not to mention hard feelings.

You're really hoping just because you have ill-feelings about an actor that the movie is a failure? You consider yourself a Bond fan and you want that? What if by his failure the series dies (and I don't agree that a failure would do this - speaking hypothetically here). You want that as a Bond fan?

This just seems silly and petty to me just so you can say "I told you so". That just blows my mind dude. Hell, when SilverFin and the idea of a Young Bond at the age of 13 was released I hated it and thought it was an instant failure, but I didn't wish it doom. In the end, it surprised me and I liked it.

I know you weren't asking me, but I would like to say that I do not want the series to die, even if it's Daniel Craig. I am a huge fan of all of the Bond films, not just Brosnan's, and I want the series to continue on.

However, if it is going to be Daniel freakin Craig as the new James Bond, then I would kind of like to see the movie do so poorly at the box-office that it proves to Barbara-B what an idiot she is.

I do want the franchise to continue on with many more movies, but I want her to lose millions of dollars in the proccess! Again, that is if it's Daniel Craig as the next James Bond?

And in all honesty I do think that it's almost certain that EON will lose millions of dollars if they go with Daniel Craig. I think it's a given.

But you have to wonder why Sony would be OK with such a suicidal move?

[dinovelvet]

Again, I'm a Bond fan, but I think I'll take my DVD's and finally call it quits. This new film will be a turd.

A tragic loss to Bond fandom, I'm sure. If you really are a Bond fan, you'll give the new guy a chance and see how Casino Royale turns out.

[K1Bond007]

I know you weren't asking me, but I would like to say that I do not want the series to die, even if it's Daniel Craig. I am a huge fan of all of the Bond films, not just Brosnan's, and I want the series to continue on.

However, if it is going to be Daniel freakin Craig as the new James Bond, then I would kind of like to see the movie do so poorly at the box-office that it proves to Barbara-B what an idiot she is.

I do want the franchise to continue on with many more movies, but I want her to lose millions of dollars in the proccess! Again, that is if it's Daniel Craig as the next James Bond?

And in all honesty I do think that it's almost certain that EON will lose millions of dollars if they go with Daniel Craig. I think it's a given.

But you have to wonder why Sony would be OK with such a suicidal move?     

Maybe they saw the screentest. No offense, but you look at Craig from a picture and say "he can't be Bond" and that's just as valid as my opinion that he could be a decent Bond, but you gotta admit to see a person in the act performing the role is entirely different. Even for Bond. How many people in 1972 could really see Roger Moore as James Bond? Or Timothy Dalton in 1986? Favorable or not, I doubt many people ("people" being the public) could - these two examples are polar opposites and Moore is nothing like Connery, which is what they (the public) expected.

As perhaps as controlling as Barbara Broccoli is, Craig (if it is him), would have to been not only OK'd by Sony, but by Campbell (who appears to be dead set on this 28-32 yr-old reboot), and Michael G. Wilson. I don't see how, if you want to blame someone, it should go entirely on her. The sad thing is, that the people that don't want Craig blame her and they have no evidence to support that reason. Because an Internet rumor or supposed "insider" said she wanted him? Not to say she didn't, but have we not learned anything from this year-long search? I've also seen from the same sources 3 actors confirmed as Bond and one was Eric Bana in 2004.

On a side note it's really funny to me that now Barbara is claimed (mostly by hardcore Bond fans) to be like this dictator who always gets her way and apparently does nothing but lead Bond down the road of destruction while her father, Cubby, is this poster-boy Saint who 100% of the time did no wrong and always steered the Bond franchise in the right direction. Neither are true regardless of how bad or how good they are for the franchise, with all due respect.

Edited by K1Bond007, 13 October 2005 - 08:13 AM.

[sean c.]

this is a catastrophy!!
I still hope it`s not Daniel Craig though I have a bad feeling by now.
Craig means the end to Bond for all the reasons I have already listed up!
If they try to copy "Batman Begins" with Daniel Craig in the role of Bond...god forbid,I don`t risk to even think about it!!

[sean c.]

I suppose it can't be that bad? So what if he's James Bond? At least he's not Croatian or 22 right? Sorry, but I simply cannot jump on the bandwagon, this is wrong...very wrong.

I say B.F.D. and let the Daniel Craig [censored]kissers choke on the cake they're eating. I know alot of people will watch Royale due to the fact that it's a Bond film but I really don't know anymore. Craig being picked for a role he doesn't deserve to play weakens not only my faith in Bond but my faith in a higher power as well.

Daniel Craig will NOT be my James Bond. I can only sit back and see what happens but I'll be crossing my fingers for a failure. If I'm wrong no big deal or skin off my back, not to mention hard feelings.

I really want this to be a bad dream. It's a damn good thing there will be better movies in '06 Than Casino ROyale.

Sam,you are reading my anxious soul
Craig is by far the worst choice that could have been made.
The "Triple X"-and "Bourne Identity"-generation will be lost forever for the Bond-serial.And we all know what will happen to this icon by not attracting a new bunch of young fans,the so called future audience.
Daniel Craig is so fu...indecent to play bond, I can`t believe it.

Edited by Mister Asterix, 13 October 2005 - 09:13 AM.

[Bond Bug]

When I look at Daniel Craig, I don't see James Bond.

I see a blonde Norman Wisdom.

What a sad day for the Bond series if tomorrow he is announced as Bond.

[Hitch]

I'm all for plain speaking, but could a moderator alter the thread title to make it less offensive, please?

[Marquis]

I'm all for plain speaking, but could a moderator alter the thread title to make it less offensive, please?

You're offended by "Stuff Daniel Craig"?

[jamesparadise]

Craig's official headshot from Spotlight

[Hitch]

Yes, I am offended by the thread title. I'm in a prissy mood. It's ok to say "Craig is an awful actor" (he's not) or "Craig is the worst possible choice" (I think he's an intriguing choice) but members shouldn't use a direct insult. It's not the word "stuff" I object to, it's the way that it is aimed directly at the actor. Once titles like this become a regular thing, then more offensive titles will begin to pop up as people use stronger language to make their point. CBn is a very friendly site and I want to keep it that way.

Besides which, CBn staff might find it difficult to get co-operation from EON, Sony, IFP or the man himself if they visit CBn and see such a thread on the main page.

Mamebers can say what they like, but they should think about how they say it. I'm off now to go and have a good swear to remind myself that I'm a rough, tough Bond fan with a thick skin. I

[jamesparadise]

Yes, I am offended by the thread title. I'm in a prissy mood. It's ok to say "Craig is an awful actor" (he's not) or "Craig is the worst possible choice" (I think he's an intriguing choice) but members shouldn't use a direct insult. It's not the word "stuff" I object to, it's the way that it is aimed directly at the actor. Once titles like this become a regular thing, then more offensive titles will begin to pop up as people use stronger language to make their point. CBn is a very friendly site and I want to keep it that way.

Besides which, CBn staff might find it difficult to get co-operation from EON, Sony, IFP or the man himself if they visit CBn and see such a thread on the main page.

Mamebers can say what they like, but they should think about how they say it. I'm off now to go and have a good swear to remind myself that I'm a rough, tough Bond fan with a thick skin. I

If EON want CR to be a success then they would be advised to co-opersate with fan resources.I don't think they'll be overly worried about one title in one thread.There is nothing offensive about the title.

[Atticus17F]

If EON want CR to be a success  then they would be advised to co-opersate with fan resources.

They've had plenty of success before without the need to consult or co-operate with "the fans". Why should they start now?

[David Schofield]

Hey, maybe you anti-Craig, pro-Brozza types can get enough replies on here to make SONY/EON call off the press conference tomorrow...

[jamesparadise]

Hey, maybe you anti-Craig, pro-Brozza types can get enough replies on here to make SONY/EON call off the press conference tomorrow...

why are you assuming that everyone who is anti-Craig is pro-brozza?

[David Schofield]

Hey, maybe you anti-Craig, pro-Brozza types can get enough replies on here to make SONY/EON call off the press conference tomorrow...

why are you assuming that everyone who is anti-Craig is pro-brozza?

Not my intention - so amend to "maybe you anti-Craig or pro-Brozza types..."

[Hitch]

Okay, it seems most people here don't find the thread title offensive. Whatever - I'm not the boss of you.

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[spynovelfan]

Is there really the need for a thread called "Stuff Daniel Craig"? Are we not then going to see 'Stuff Pierce Brosnan", "Stuff Barbara Broccoli" and so on? Seems a little needlessly aggressive to me.

[jamesparadise]

its neccessary to have a thread where the people who feel Craig is a bad choice for the role can express their views.So far only 2 people are too sensitive to deal with the title.

[Shrublands]

Is there really the need for a thread called "Stuff Daniel Craig"? Are we not then going to see 'Stuff Pierce Brosnan", "Stuff Barbara Broccoli" and so on? Seems a little needlessly aggressive to me.

Well it

[pgram]

We could just make it: Staff Daniel Craig, and let the posters decide what they want to read.

[WC]

I can just see the teaser trailer now, a la Pierce Brosnan. A mysterious figure emerges from the shadows and says "You were expecting someone better looking?"

Seriously though, looks aside, I don't see him as Bond from what I've seen of him in Archangel or Tomb Raider. He's more the sort of colleague-type character Bond might team up with or Bond's opposite Russian number. He might even be more suitable for Felix. But Bond? Never.

[WC]

We could just make it: Staff Daniel Craig, and let the posters decide what they want to read.

But then that might be interpreted as "Hit Daniel Craig" or "Whack Daniel Craig" - with a staff of course. Or add him to the CBn staff (if he loses the Bond gig).

That's not so great either.

[Kingdom Come]

The Bond series has some kind of death wish that makes me think they want it to end. They get all the wrong people. Why? Craig is wrong for the role. If he is chosen then this Paul Haggis or whatever his name is will not afterall be getting a 28 year old Bond. What drugs can these people be on that takes away all logic?

[Alessandra]

So ok. can we talk about something more important than the title of a thread? I don't really care about the title, but if the majority finds it offensive, then just get rid of it and stop discussing about it!
I am SURE moderators know how to do their job very well, and if they haven't changed it it's just because the majority is NOT complainig.
This said: I do not like Craig at all for Bond... I've taken the disturb to watch this Layer Cake movie everyone was talking about...(and it was a NIGHTMARE since here one cannot even find it, I had to have it shipped from England! lol )
well excuse me, but I don't find anything that makes a point for him as Bond in the movie. Good actor, so what? the world is full of brilliant actors, better than him, who are still not suitable to be Bond.
Al Pacino is a terrific actor, but he's just not ok to be Bond! I love Pacino, and watched most of his movies, but that doesn't mean I would pick him as Bond!
Same reasoning for Craig. He may as well be a good actor (now, not as good as Pacino, let's make it clear! lol ) but that doesn't mean he should be Bond!
He's ugly, he has zero class, he's just too.. ordinary people to be Bond, right, that's the word. Ordinary.
I've seen posts above I agree with stating that Bond does NOT have to be gritty like Bourne Identity, and is not xxx even.
Bond is suave, has class, is DREAMY in a way. It's something not everyone can have, it's not ordinary people, it's extraordinary.. it's extra-rich stuff, extra-gadgets, extra-clothes, extra-everything!
and yes, like somebody else was saying, he makes women go crazy for him in a sec!
And that just doesn't go with Daniel Craig.
It goes with Hugh Jackman, it goes with Pierce Brosnan, but not with Craig.
Still, if he is Bond, I do not wish failure to anyone. I just am positive that the box office will be disappointing (Not a disaster, just disappointing) enough for producers to understand the choice wasn't good.
Yet, I may be proved wrong even if Craig's in.
but this is how I feel.

PS I showed a pic of Daniel Craig to my mom, who's been watching Bond all her life, and told her he was considered the main candidate to be Bond. she said "ma chi, quel bruttone qua?? ma sono pazzi??" (it sounds funny in italian)
that means "who, this very ugly guy here?? are they crazy??"
Lol .

Edited by Alessandra, 13 October 2005 - 12:13 PM.