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[Qwerty]

I personally don't know. As I said, he's just the "hot name/choice".

[lorna99]

If anyone can tell us who is going to James Bond, then do so

[Loomis]

Any chance of a new poll, then?

[Qwerty]

If anyone can tell us who is going to James Bond, then do so

There are rumours and all that sort, but we'd be hearing concrete news if it was released.

[Martin Mystery]

If anyone can tell us who is going to James Bond, then do so

Clive Owen.

MM

[Seannery]

If anyone can tell us who is going to James Bond, then do so

Clive Owen.

MM

It's nice to have dreams

[Qwerty]

If anyone can tell us who is going to James Bond, then do so

Clive Owen.

MM

You don't even need an official announcement?

[Martin Mystery]

You don't even need an official announcement?

Nope. I just talked to Clive's older brother Alan on the phone - it's a done deal, they'll announce it after the Oscars. Three picture deal with an option for a fourth.

MM










































*Just joking*

[Forever007]

If you look at the history of the Bond franchise dating back to the post Connery era, the selection process for the casting of Bond has always been difficult and flawed.
-Lazenby was not cut out to play Bond due to his lack of experience. However you have to admire the job he did considering a total lack of any formal acting eductaion. He was chosen after winning the poll in Life Magazine!
-Moore was chosen based on his TV career and loyal following, similar to Brosnan.
-Dalton only got the role because of Brosnan's contract snag with NBC otherwise he was never really the first choice. Dalton I feel did a great job of bringing the literary Bond to the screen, but it was not widely accepted after the lighter Moore films.
-Brosnan did a respectable job considering what he had to work with. Goldeneye was the last Bond film that actually "felt" like a Bond film and each film that followed got progressively worse. Now here we are with Casino Royale the final Fleming title to be used, and all our hopes are that it will be a worthy addition to the franchise. The casting of Bond is important, but not the most important factor the producers have to deal with. Consider the facts:

Martin Campbell: very good action director period. Can he deliver a good story with character development?

Purvis & Wade: are marginal at best and they penned this one as well. Why do we expect such a great character driven piece, when they made the Brosnan films bad popcorn movies???

PG-13: is not a rating that should be appropriate for a real Bond film. The effort to keep everything at that rating simply waters down the scripts even more to vanilla.
Bond is an adult character for adults and as long as they cater to teens Bond will never be what it should be. Look at The Bourne films!

The Producers are notoriously cheap with how they pay actors in general.

I'm sure many potential actors know this and much more about the Bond franchise and it wouldn't be too surprising to see actor after actor turn down the role. That's why this fan thinks the next Bond will be an unproven or limited star who really doesn't have too big a future in main stream films. Lets face it folks, it will take a lot of things to go right to make the next Bond film, and the ones to follow, quality successes. As bad as the Brosnan films were he was James Bond to people long before he put on the tuxedo. People came to see Brosnan as James Bond, not to see a James Bond film. Who out there really has that level of expectation and is viewed almost unilaterally as James Bond? Nobody. So whoever is chosen to be the next Bond better have a solid foundation from the strength of the script, direction and accept the fact the the audience will have to grow to accept him. Yes, there are a lot of actors out there to choose from, probably more than in any other era for the Bond producers, but if the picture itself is mediocre then the new Bond doesn't stand a chance.

I hate to say this, especially since I'm a staunch Bond fan, but the Jason Bourne (David Webb) character and films are far superior to Bond films these days and are very formidable competition. I hope they serve as a wakeup call to the producers before Bond is so far outdated we lose it forever. Bond must go on!

[Qwerty]

Welcome to the CommanderBond.Net Forums Forever007.

[HawkEye007]

The Bourne movies are a formidable opponent to the Bond franchise. I agree with Forever007 in saying that they should be kind of a kick in the pants to the EON bigwigs. If it is, hopefully CR will move in the direction of TLD or even GE for that matter. I personally think that after the Dalton issues, the execs at EON are gun shy about getting an unknown for the role. I have nothing against unknowns, heck Connery was very unknown in the states before Bond. This may lend itself to Clive Owen getting the role, since he is a lesser known here in the US.

[Forever007]

I like the thought of a tougher Bond in Clive Owen, but his age is defintely a concern and the fact he doesn't find the role appealing. This woul probably translate into a film or two then he would be off to do other things and avoid typecasting.

A good fit may well be Gerard Butler. He has the look, he's Scottish and has this budding star quality to him that might very well work. He's 36 years old, wouldn't command a mega paycheck and he likes the character which he could do for many years to come. I know it's not the best example, but I thought he had screen presence in Dracula 2000 and really stood out in a teeny horror movie. His more recent work is not really leading man stuff, with the exception of Phantom of the Opera, but he is becoming more poplular in the USA. I hope they give him a shot because I'll bet he'll make the most of it.

Forever007

[whitesox]

I agree with Forever007.
Butler is the best choise in every level.... I don't like the "rough" aspect of Owen very much...
My second choise would be James Purefoy....

[GoldFingeredGlos]

When will thes be announced?

[Qwerty]

Welcome to the CBn Forums. No official statement has been made as to when the announcement will be.

[Forever007]

Now that Martin Campbell has given us an idea to what to expect in the grittier Casino Royale the casting for Bond has certainly been narrowed down quite a bit. Campbell stated that Bond will be on his first mission after being promoted to 00 status, then goes through a morphing process that ends in the Bond will all know today. I find that very interesting from casting standpoint. Connery was 31 when he first played Bond, Lazenby 29, but every Bond since has been 40+ or very close. Given Campbell's remarks I would think it's fair to assume that Clive Owen and Dougray Scott are out of the picture(no pun intended). If you look at actors in their early to mid thirties Bale, Butler, Gruffudd, Law and possibly Jackman are in that range. With Bale, Jackman and Law tied up on numerous ongoing projects that leaves us with Butler and Gruffudd. Both are young enough, not mega stars yet and have expressed their desire to play Bond. After many months of speculation after the Brosnan departure things are finally starting to take shape. I can't get the image out of my mind, but I can easily see Gerard Butler at the card table oozing that famous Bond charm, then punching his way out of trouble. I guess time will tell.

[Stephenson]

Hi everyone,
I spent last weekend watching a couple movies: Vanity Fair and Gosford Park. At the end, I have to say that Owen came out a winner, but it was close. I admit I have always thought there was something lacking in him, a certain charisma or screen chemistry r maybe he just seemed toooo serious, that never made hime Bond for me, but Gosford Park proved me wrong.

Now Campbell sets the scene for Casino Royale and I have to ask: I know Owen can play world-weary, but can he play innocent well enough to fit in with the scenario?

[Martin Mystery]

After the latest news, I think it's safe to say Clive Owen is out of the running.

MM

[Mr. Somerset]

You don't even need an official announcement?

Nope. I just talked to Clive's older brother Alan on the phone - it's a done deal, they'll announce it after the Oscars. Three picture deal with an option for a fourth.

MM










































*Just joking*

I like that one. That was great!

[Qwerty]

After the latest news, I think it's safe to say Clive Owen is out of the running.

MM

???

Really, all this "this guys out", "this guy WILL be Bond"...nothing is confirmed yet.

[Stephenson]

So, if Owen is out, according to MM, who does that leave in the running with the best chances? I haven't seen nearly as much heat surrounding any of the other "likelies" (witht he exception of Jackman), as there has been around Owen.

[Qwerty]

So, if Owen is out, according to MM, who does that leave in the running with the best chances?

He's not out nor in. It's still not decided.

[Stephenson]

Sorry if I was misunderstood; I realize that nothing official has come out yet. I was just thinking: now that the description has come out from the director, do people still think Owen is right for the role, or does this new information exclude him as MM seems to be suggesting (whether it's age or suitability that is at issue). If so, who's next in line? It sometimes seems like this has been a race either Jackman or Owen could only blame themselves for losing, and all the other actors have been dumped into a barrel, treated as if they were pretty much interchangeable.

I also wonder how much attention either EON or Sony pays to sites like this. Are the opinions represented here of any importance to them?

[Qwerty]

If so, who's next in line?

I think he's a good choice and still has as much chance as some of the other names. I really can't say who is "next". Owen necessarily isn't "first", he may just be the hot name at the moment.

[Spoon]

It sometimes seems like this has been a race either Jackman or Owen could only blame themselves for losing, and all the other actors have been dumped into a barrel, treated as if they were pretty much interchangeable.

canoe, that is entirely based on the discussions on these boards and others like it. There's no indication at all that Danjaq/Sony have been thinking of the race as Owen/Jackman and a bunch of also-rans (and in fact, I think it's exceedingly unlikely they have.) So, I think the premise of your question is faulty.

[Martin Mystery]

While we don't know "who's in or who's out", the fact that they're going for "a younger Bond" is IMO a good indication that Owen -at 41- is out of the running.

MM

[Seannery]

While we don't know "who's in or who's out", the fact that they're going for "a younger Bond" is IMO a good indication that Owen -at 41- is out of the running.

MM

MM I don't think we can say that for sure. I still think we are at too uncertain point to discount anyone at this juncture--and you know I don't want Clive to be Bond And remember it was only a short while ago that you were certain Owen was the next Bond and were crowing at me about that. So sometimes the way things look aren't the way they are.


By the way MM I think if i'm not mistaken that I started the tradition of calling you MM

[Martin Mystery]

While we don't know "who's in or who's out", the fact that they're going for "a younger Bond" is IMO a good indication that Owen -at 41- is out of the running.

MM

MM I don't think we can say that for sure. I still think we are at too uncertain point to discount anyone at this juncture--and you know I don't want Clive to be Bond And remember it was only a short while ago that you were certain Owen was the next Bond and were crowing at me about that. So sometimes the way things look aren't the way they are.


By the way MM I think if i'm not mistaken that I started the tradition of calling you MM

If I was crowing at you I apologize - At that point I really believed Pierce-B when he said Owen was Bond, and I was probably so estatic that I couldn't control myself, sorry.
As for the "MM", thanks! I like it

MM

[Seannery]

While we don't know "who's in or who's out", the fact that they're going for "a younger Bond" is IMO a good indication that Owen -at 41- is out of the running.

MM

MM I don't think we can say that for sure. I still think we are at too uncertain point to discount anyone at this juncture--and you know I don't want Clive to be Bond And remember it was only a short while ago that you were certain Owen was the next Bond and were crowing at me about that. So sometimes the way things look aren't the way they are.


By the way MM I think if i'm not mistaken that I started the tradition of calling you MM

If I was crowing at you I apologize - At that point I really believed Pierce-B when he said Owen was Bond, and I was probably so estatic that I couldn't control myself, sorry.
As for the "MM", thanks! I like it

MM

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No need to apologize MM--I knew you were excited BUT I wasn't sold then he was in or now that he is necessarily out. At this very point I see no reason to say it isn't wide open yet--we still know too little. By the way if AP gets Bond i'd probably be tempted to crow just a little

[Martin Mystery]

While we don't know "who's in or who's out", the fact that they're going for "a younger Bond" is IMO a good indication that Owen -at 41- is out of the running.

MM

MM I don't think we can say that for sure. I still think we are at too uncertain point to discount anyone at this juncture--and you know I don't want Clive to be Bond And remember it was only a short while ago that you were certain Owen was the next Bond and were crowing at me about that. So sometimes the way things look aren't the way they are.


By the way MM I think if i'm not mistaken that I started the tradition of calling you MM

If I was crowing at you I apologize - At that point I really believed Pierce-B when he said Owen was Bond, and I was probably so estatic that I couldn't control myself, sorry.
As for the "MM", thanks! I like it

MM

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By the way if AP gets Bond i'd probably be tempted to crow just a little

It'll be a cold day in hell before AP gets Bond, I tell you...

MM