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[zencat]

While I personally think it's way too early to speculate (I see Pierce doing 7 Bonds total), people seem to love the question of who's going to be the next Bond. So, here's a poll. Sorry if your favorite canidate isn't listed.

[Xenobia]

I am proud to say that I voted for Colin Salmon.

Shaken and stirred, he is one Hell of an actor. Let's see if anyone in Hollywood has the ***ls to give him the role.

-- Xenobia

[Mister Asterix]

I put my vote to Clive Owen, but I don't think there is really a clear favourite. And I don't think Clive—or anyone else—has earned the role quite just yet, however there are a few years for someone to rise to the top.

Originally posted by Xenobia
I am proud to say that I voted for Colin Salmon.  

Shaken and stirred, he is one Hell of an actor.  Let's see if anyone in Hollywood has the ***ls to give him the role.

-- Xenobia

That's fine because I went over to the unofficial Shaft homepage and voted for Seth Green to take over the role of John Shaft from Samuel L. Jackson. Seth is one fine actor. And I say to the hells with tradition, continuity, history, and character background.*

*That was my sarcastic voice.

[Sigma]

Am i missing something here? When did Hugh Grant become a serious contendor? The role of Bond requires some upper-class English character with a bit of macho roughness. Grant has way too much of the former, and sorely lacks the latter.

[RITZ]

CLIVE OWEN - he's da man!

[Martini]

Voted for Colin Farrell, though I have no clear #1 candidate. Farrell is young, has already made some action films and thrillers and looks attractive. If Pierce does another two or three films, I think Farrell will distinguish some more for the role over the years.

Clive Owen doesn

[BONDFINESSE 007]

Originally posted by Xenobia
I am proud to say that I voted for Colin Salmon.  

Shaken and stirred, he is one Hell of an actor.  Let's see if anyone in Hollywood has the ***ls to give him the role.

-- Xenobia

CANT HAVE A BLACK BOND, NO WAY ON EARTH, had bond been black in the begining, perhaps he could, but to go from a white bond to a black bond, whats next? oh i know lets turn bond from male to female >u cant go from one extreme to the other

[Icephoenix]

I voted for Hugh Jackman, as he's the only one I can see out of this lot who looks the part and can play the part. Far more convincing than the rest IMHO.

[kevrichardson]

Held my nose and voted for Hugh Jackman . Why no Northam on list?

[Double-Oh-Zero]

My vote went to Clive Owen. I think that by the time Brosnan steps down, Owen will be able to carry on the torch. Even if some of the people here think that he isn't good looking, well, keep in mind that not all of the actors need to be devastatingly handsome to play the role well.

[Mister Asterix]

Originally posted by kevrichardson (edited)
Why no Northam on list?

He's on there under the title 'None of the above'.

[superracer0022]

i voted for clive owen because he is just awesome in the hire films i would love to see him drive a car with machine guns, rockets, and an ejector seat

[SirMiles83]

I voted for Clive Owen, but I was hestitant and about to pick Colin Farrell. I think Clive looks more the part, but Colin is an amazing actor with a lot of charisma. In a few years he might be my candidate for Bond.

[kevrichardson]

Originally posted by Mister Asterix

He's on there under the title 'None of the above'.

Very funny .

[crashdrive]

I've obviously voted for Dominic West, still I find the selection of this poll to be quite odd. No serious candidates like Jeremy Northam ('The Net', 'The Winslow Boy' & 'Enigma'), Gerard Butler ('Reign of Fire', 'Timeline' & 'Lara Croft and the Cradle of Life'), Ioan Gruffudd ('Hornblower', '102 Dalmatians' & 'Black Hawk Down'), Colin Wells (left) ('Titus', 'CI5: New Professionals' & "Crossroads") & James Purefoy ('A Knights Tale', 'Resident Evil' & 'Maybe Baby'), but instead a singer with no acting experience (Williams), a coloured man already playing an important role in the franchise (Salmon; hell why not include Judi Dench?), an Academy Award nominee who will never sign a three picture deal and doesn't look the part (Law), a romantic leading man and the hottest British actor who will also not sign a three picture deal (Grant) and the new bad boy in Hollywood who can't give an interview with cursing (Farrell)....

....but I can't complain, at least I've got West

Guess I'm not surprised Owen is leading the pack so far. I just wish people would just look at Owen for just one second and seriously think about whether or not this guy could be that dashing handsome womanizing gentleman spy; Clive Owen ('The Bourne Identity', 'Gosford Park' & 'Croupier'). I'm just glad the fans aren't the ones who make the decisions.

[Xenobia]

Originally posted by Mister Asterix
I put my vote to Clive Owen, but I don't think there is really a clear favourite. And I don't think Clive—or anyone else—has earned the role quite just yet, however there are a few years for someone to rise to the top.



That's fine because I went over to the unofficial Shaft homepage and voted for Seth Green to take over the role of John Shaft from Samuel L. Jackson. Seth is one fine actor. And I say to the hells with tradition, continuity, history, and character background.*

*That was my sarcastic voice.

Laugh while you may...but think of this...

We only know that Bond's mother was Swiss and his father was Scottish. They never said anything about their race, or the race of his grandparents.

Or for that matter, if you subscribe to the theory, as I do, that both number AND name are MI6 given, a black Bond isn't that hard to fathom.

-- Xenobia

[crashdrive]

Originally posted by Xenobia
We only know that Bond's mother was Swiss and his father was Scottish.  They never said anything about their race, or the race of his grandparents.

Had you actually read the books you would know Fleming did indeed describe Bond as being a white man. Flemings topchoice for the role was David Niven. You can't get more whiter than Niven

And even if Fleming did not write whether or not Bond was white, I don't think audiences would accept a coloured actor as Bond. Especially if the actor in question already plays an important role in the franchise. I'm sorry to say you've just wasted your vote.

[DanMan]

I'm not racist or anything but Bond CANNOT be black. It will never happen. (I hope I don't get a call from Al Sharpten or anything).

[RITZ]

Owen's in the lead! Sweet!
I told you, he is the next 007

[kevrichardson]

Originally posted by crashdrive

Had you actually read the books you would know Fleming did indeed describe Bond as being a white man. Flemings topchoice for the role was David Niven. You can't get more whiter than Niven
And even if Fleming did not write whether or not Bond was white, I don't think audiences would accept a coloured actor as Bond. Especially if the actor in question already plays an important role in the franchise. I'm sorry to say you've just wasted your vote.

what constitute a "Coloured Actor" ? Only a idiot would not realize James Bond is white . He was not part of the " Indian Army" . A Black James Bond is pretty goddamn stupid.

[zencat]

Bond can be black. What he can't be is American.

[Mister Asterix]

So Strutter was actually complimenting Bond on his disguise as a white man in Harlem?

[SirMiles83]

We only know that Bond's mother was Swiss and his father was Scottish. They never said anything about their race, or the race of his grandparents.

In Casino Royale, Ian Fleming described that Bond could be described looking like Hoagy Carmichael. He is not black.

[Simon]

Mine went to Mr Bale.

Good luck to the rest....

[Mister Asterix]

Originally posted by Xenobia (edited)
Or for that matter, if you subscribe to the theory, as I do, that both number AND name are MI6 given, a black Bond isn't that hard to fathom.

So you’re saying that Sean Connery is the only real James Bond. Okay. And Pierce Brosnan’s character’s real name is Evelyn Tremble?

[Loomis]

If Bond can be black, what are we to make of his following remarks (from Ian Fleming's "Live and Let Die")?

"I don't think I've ever heard of a great Negro criminal before," said
Bond. "They don't seem to take to big business. Pretty law abiding
chaps, on the whole, I should have thought."

I'm with Mister Asterix on the subject of Bond being black. It would be fine, so long as a white guy were given the opportunity to play someone like John Shaft. Or how about casting, say, Seth Green as Shaft, but blacking the actor up like Al Jolson so that the character remained an African American? Surely that would satisfy everyone, and no one would be offended?

No, James Bond should not be black, and I'm not even going to bother trying to explain that "I'm not racist, but....".

However, if, like Xen, we subscribe to the theory that "both number AND name are MI6 given", why not have an actor of Asian origin playing 007? Chow Yun-Fat would great, IMO.

Or maybe Robbie Coltrane. After all, if the number and name are doled out by the British secret service, why does James Bond 007 have to be an athletic, handsome guy every time out?

Anyway, I voted for Hugh Grant on this poll, as I suspect zencat and Blue Eyes did too. I agree with zencat that Brosnan has at least two more Bond movies in him, though.

[BONDFINESSE 007]

Originally posted by zencat
Bond can be black. What he can't be is American.

how on earth CAN BOND ever be black? lets just say that pierce plays his last bond, and a black guy plays bond the very next pic, bond was white with brosnan and all of a sudden hes black? how the heck can you explain that away and make logic and sense of it? and its not just black white, its that bond cant be anything but what he is, he cant be a woman, he cant be gay, he cant be anything but what he has been for 5o years, to do anything counter to that would be an insult to the history and integrity of james bond, fleming wrote the bond bible and you can not rewrite the bible

[Blue Eyes]

Grant has way too much of the former, and sorely lacks the latter.

Some newspapers, I have clippings, gave the same commentry on Pierce Brosnan before he took on the role.

[freemo]

Or for that matter, if you subscribe to the theory, as I do, that both number AND name are MI6 given, a black Bond isn't that hard to fathom.

Off topic a little, and no offence to those who do believe this theroy (there are a few supporteers), but I've always despised it. "There's only one man.." as all the taglines go, oh wait, no, there's several. So, every Bond actor played a different character who was assuming the code name "James Bond" ? With Connery/Bond being the first right ? No, but wait, in The Spy Who Loved Me Sheikh Hosein remembers Moore/Bond from Camberige, so Moore/Bond must have had a stint assuming the code name during his University years, before Connery/Bond. And why does Connery/Bond re-assume the role after Lazenby/Bond left ? or are Connery and Lazenby playing the same person assuming the Bond code name, ConneryLazenby/Bond ? Are you confused ? I hope not. And why are Moore/Bond (who has apparently returned to the role of Bond) and Dalton/Bond still sad over the death of ConneryLazenby/Bond's wife ? Did they all happen to lose a wife too, or is it to try and make people believe it's the one man ? Worked on Felix Lieter, I guess, although one could argue that Lieter is just a code name too, although Henderson/Lieter seems to be good friends with both Moore/Bond and Dalton/Bond, even invites Dalton/Bond to his wedding. Speaking of Dalton/Bond, didn't he resign from the Secret Service in Licence to Kill ? Why did he get to keep the codename ? It's not important I guess, but he was lucky that they didn't hire a new Bond while he was off hunting down Sanchez. There's something else about Dalton/Bond that doesn't smell quite right, doesn't the pretitle scene of the first Brosnan/Bond film, GoldenEye take place in the Dalton era ? Is Brosnan playing Dalton/Bond for this one scene ? Does Brosnan join the ranks of Charles Grey and Joe Don Baker with the honor of playing two different characters in the Bond series ? Or are Dalton/Bond and Brosnan/Bond the same agent, DaltonBrosnan/Bond ? Amazing how Miss Moneypenny likes to flirt with each new agent assuming the Bond codename too, okay, perhaps that's not so amazing, but you get what I mean.

[Loomis]

Brilliantly put, freemo. Knocks the different-agents-with-the-same-name-and-number theory into a cocked hat, as far as I'm concerned.