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#151 PeteNeon

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 12:02 PM

Excitement curbed somewhat by that description. Reminded me of their new penchant for forgetting CR/QoS and suddenly incorporating classic elements. Bond's past again, hmm...

 

Unless that past involves Quantum, then we're talking! ;)


Edited by PeteNeon, 04 December 2014 - 12:03 PM.


#152 Call Billy Bob

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 12:15 PM

Now, I'm hoping for Mr. White to reappear as the new Blofeld's "Largo."



#153 SamNeillIsNotBond

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 12:27 PM

I really have to applaud this title.

To begin with, the term Spectre has always had a marvelous ring to it. That's part of what made the organization so popular in the first place, and I believe the moniker has the same effect for the film. It just sounds dark, mysterious, and sinister, which sets the mood perfectly for a follow-up to Skyfall.

Second, by being so up front with this major plot detail, they avoid the sort of nonsense we got with J.J. Abrams' Star Trek: Into Darkness, where the whole world was sure Benedict Cumberbatch was playing Khan but the cast and crew kept having to pretend otherwise. Yes, we can still spend the next eleven months speculating on whether Waltz or one of the other actors is actually Blofeld, but there's no doubt now that the organization itself is involved. (Now if they can just avoid the rest of the mistakes of Into Darkness...)

Finally, while some will initially grouse that this title isn't exciting or surprising enough for their liking, what longtime Bond fan isn't giddy at the confirmation that SPECTRE is back? Personally, I'll take that kind of joyous, long-awaited revelation over the reveal of some very poetic, Fleming-esque title any day.

Plus, it could have been a lot worse. It could have been No Deals, Mr. Bond:P 

Love the title. Love the cast. Love the return of SPECTRE. The only things I don't love are the time difference between the UK and the US (I should really be asleep right now!) and the eleven months we have to wait for the film to hit theaters.


Edited by SamNeillIsNotBond, 04 December 2014 - 12:28 PM.


#154 willdj

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 12:32 PM

this time its personal, just like the last five times - oh and the synopsis is literally parts of the last three film synopsis' mashed together

but its still gonna be awesome!! love me a ghostly octopus bullet poster



#155 seawolfnyy

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 01:05 PM

So, the title WAS leaked. Not that I'm complaining and I love that title card. It's a shame there's no Emily Blunt. I also wonder if this film will be connected to Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace.



#156 DLibrasnow

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 01:05 PM

Very excited by the possibilities offered by this title. I am very surprised because we haven't seen Blofeld in the EON series for 33 years.



#157 sharpshooter

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 01:08 PM

Very excited by the possibilities offered by this title. I am very surprised because we haven't seen Blofeld in the EON series for 33 years.


I agree. The title presents a lot of possibilities, bringing the evil organisation to mind first and foremost, but also having enough to stand on its own, being a creepy, ghostly phrase.

#158 Hockey Mask

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 01:13 PM

That poster is ridiculous!  The good kind of ridiculous.  Not the bad.



#159 sharpshooter

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 01:15 PM

The poster is classy. Minimal with maximum effect.

#160 seawolfnyy

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 01:20 PM

The poster is classy. Minimal with maximum effect.

The poster is incredible. I love that logo.

 

Imagine this for the climax: Bond chasing Waltz's Blofeld....er Oberhauser down an Austrian mountain after it's revealed he's actually Blofeld. A modern version of the 007 theme plays.



#161 Agent Spriggan Ominae

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 01:39 PM

I'm really liking the title but it seems like now they need to put Quantum to rest. And I'm one who wants some kind of proper closure for CR/QoS but it's kinda hard for the two groups to compete, and I'd much rather see what they're gonna do with a contemporary take on the Blofeld/SPECTRE arc since that's the direction they're taking. At the very least they could explain that Quantum kinda dissolved after being compromised by Greene, a high ranking member spilling the beans to Bond/MI6, their plausible deniability went out the window forcing the group to disband and walk away into the shadows with possibly someone like White, Haines, or perhaps another character seen at the Tosca appearing as part of the new SPECTRE organization for some kind of continuity. There was the woman in the group at the opera "where do the Americans stand?". I wonder if they might imply that she could be the same character now played by Monica Bellucci?

 

The plot synopsis is nice and reminds me of the one we got with Skyfall. Gives us a little to speculate on while giving away almost nothing at all. The whole bit about "layers of deceit" and "the terrible truth" makes me think that the contemporary SPECTRE is gonna take a few ques from the nature of the conspiracy in QoS and continue with some of the themes in Skyfall with the shadowy fringes of the intelligence world, perhaps the truth behind this SPECTRE isn't so black and white. Most of all the title and imagery evoke the whole ghosts or specters from the past, and even though this would be Craig Bond's first encounter with them, to me it feels like it continues on with the death and resurrection theme in Skyfall. I'm certainly excited and interested to see what they have planned.

 

On a side note, perhaps the video game Bloodstone is finally getting it's followup after that somewhat abrupt ending, if you've played it you'll know what I mean. For me I'd like for Bloodstone to be official canon between QoS and SF, kinda like how EoN is like a 5th Brosnan film. I really enjoyed Bloodstone     



#162 SPECTRE ASSASSIN

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 02:55 PM

I'm a little biased, but I like the new title.

#163 sharpshooter

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:00 PM

I'm a little biased, but I like the new title.

I thought you would.  :P



#164 seawolfnyy

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:06 PM

I wasn't sold on the title when it was rumored. But after seeing it appear on the screen with the octopus logo and the confirmation of Waltz as Blof....er Oberhauser, I knew it was perfect.



#165 sharpshooter

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:14 PM

I wasn't sold on the title when it was rumored. But after seeing it appear on the screen with the octopus logo and the confirmation of Waltz as Blof....er Oberhauser, I knew it was perfect.

The octopus on the logo really helped sway me. And I was relieved after that terrible 'Exposures' rumour, a domain which had been registered by Sony in October. Spectre has a degree of class and danger which is always a good mix for Bond.



#166 Major Tallon

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:43 PM

Thumbs up from me!



#167 Walecs

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:43 PM

SPECTRE is the worst title they could ever come up with.



#168 sharpshooter

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 03:47 PM

It always comes down to the script. I haven't read it, so I trust the film-makers.



#169 Guy Haines

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 04:47 PM

Given that SPECTRE in some form will re-appear - rather makes a nonsense of the title and the bullet hole image above if it doesn't - but that Quantum hasn't been completely resolved - I wonder if, as has been suggested above, some crossover character might appear. My money would be on Mr White.



#170 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 04:54 PM

SPECTRE is the worst title they could ever come up with.

 

You think that "THE NAKED GUN" would have been better?



#171 Guy Haines

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 05:01 PM

Well, well, the plot thickens. According two websites this afternoon, Jesper Christiansen is returning as Mr White in "Spectre".

 

If true, it makes me wonder. I remember saying to someone on leaving the cinema after CR2006 - "I think that terror "organisation" will turn out to be SPECTRE in the next film". I was wrong - unless Quantum was really SPECTRE all along. Maybe the film that has taken that word as its title will explain all?



#172 Royal Dalton

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 05:09 PM

SPECTRE is the worst title they could ever come up with.

It's that Fleming chap's fault.

 

Thunderball, Chapter 5: SPECTRE.



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Posted 04 December 2014 - 05:15 PM

SPECTRE is a lazy title but it is effective (just like the Waltz casting as the vilain).

I wonder if Fleming could have used it. It rings good, feels mysterious, but when you know your Bond, it is so obvious...

 

What truly scares me is the plot : it seems that we are going to have a Vilain origin story just like any superheros film with - again - some elements from Bond past.

And I have to say : I DO NOT CARE ABOUT BOND PAST. Sorry for this outburst  but I truly feel it deserves the character.

 

On the flipside : marvellous car and Monica



#174 ChrissBond007

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 05:32 PM

My guess is that the part about Bond's past might be referring to the possible connection to Quantum or the previous films in general. At least, I hope so. I also don't want another personal/revenge story this time, they would be over-using this theme and it would get awkward in my opinion. 



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Posted 04 December 2014 - 05:41 PM

 

SPECTRE is the worst title they could ever come up with.

It's that Fleming chap's fault.

 

Thunderball, Chapter 5: SPECTRE.

 

That guy can't leave well enough alone....



#176 univex

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 05:56 PM

"A spectrum (plural spectra or spectrums]) is a condition that is not limited to a specific set of values but can vary infinitely within a continuum. The word was first used scientifically within the field of optics to describe the rainbow of colors in visible light when separated using a prism..." (wikipedia, I know, lazy me)

 

Mr. White

Mr. Green

Mr. Silva (Silver)

...

 

Get my point? Just an idiotic theory, of course.


On the same note: glad to see Jesper back, even if he made some stupid comments about the franchise awhile ago.



#177 seawolfnyy

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 05:58 PM

"A spectrum (plural spectra or spectrums]) is a condition that is not limited to a specific set of values but can vary infinitely within a continuum. The word was first used scientifically within the field of optics to describe the rainbow of colors in visible light when separated using a prism..." (wikipedia, I know, lazy me)

 

Mr. White

Mr. Green

Mr. Silva (Silver)

...

 

Get my point? Just an idiotic theory, of course.


On the same note: glad to see Jesper back, even if he made some stupid comments about the franchise awhile ago.

Except that silver in spanish is plata.



#178 univex

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 06:04 PM

 

"A spectrum (plural spectra or spectrums]) is a condition that is not limited to a specific set of values but can vary infinitely within a continuum. The word was first used scientifically within the field of optics to describe the rainbow of colors in visible light when separated using a prism..." (wikipedia, I know, lazy me)

 

Mr. White

Mr. Green

Mr. Silva (Silver)

...

 

Get my point? Just an idiotic theory, of course.


On the same note: glad to see Jesper back, even if he made some stupid comments about the franchise awhile ago.

Except that silver in spanish is plata.

 

Yes, yes, I know. But maybe it´s not that strict. Silva may be an adulteration of the word, and not a direct translation. Still, an idiotic thought, I know.



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Posted 04 December 2014 - 06:37 PM

 

SPECTRE is the worst title they could ever come up with.

It's that Fleming chap's fault.

 

Thunderball, Chapter 5: SPECTRE.

 

 

That was the name of the chapter, not the name of the book.

 

Why would they call a movie "SPECTRE" if that's the name of a recurring organization? It doesn't make sense. SPECTRE has appeared in 7 movies (9 if you count NSNA and Bond 24, and will most likely feature in Bond 25 making that 10), why should this be the first one to be called SPECTRE? It bothers me.

 

Really, it would have been a marvelous title if SPECTRE was a one-off organization, but it isn't.

 

 

"A spectrum (plural spectra or spectrums]) is a condition that is not limited to a specific set of values but can vary infinitely within a continuum. The word was first used scientifically within the field of optics to describe the rainbow of colors in visible light when separated using a prism..." (wikipedia, I know, lazy me)

 

Mr. White

Mr. Green

Mr. Silva (Silver)

...

 

Get my point? Just an idiotic theory, of course.


On the same note: glad to see Jesper back, even if he made some stupid comments about the franchise awhile ago.

 

Jesper said he was misquoted and he loved to do both Casino Royale and QoS. He wouldn't do SPECTRE, if he hated Bond movies (unless he's doing it for money).


Edited by Walecs, 04 December 2014 - 06:41 PM.


#180 Trevelyan 006

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Posted 04 December 2014 - 07:08 PM

I'm a little biased, but I like the new title.

:P

 

 

"A spectrum (plural spectra or spectrums]) is a condition that is not limited to a specific set of values but can vary infinitely within a continuum. The word was first used scientifically within the field of optics to describe the rainbow of colors in visible light when separated using a prism..." (wikipedia, I know, lazy me)

 

Mr. White

Mr. Green

Mr. Silva (Silver)

...

 

Get my point? Just an idiotic theory, of course.


On the same note: glad to see Jesper back, even if he made some stupid comments about the franchise awhile ago.

I rather like this theory. I just wish it didn't lead me to immediately thinking of Reservoir Dogs