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[Hockey Mask]

Bond 25 = SPECTRE 2: Electric Boogaloo!

[SPECTRE ASSASSIN]

Bond 25 = SPECTRE 2: Electric Boogaloo!

Don't give the filmmakers any ideas. It just might work

[dtuba]

 

SPECTRE is the worst title they could ever come up with.

It's that Fleming chap's fault.

 

Thunderball, Chapter 5: SPECTRE.

 

Well, at least we are finally getting a chapter title for a film. Even if it is ridiculously obvious. 

[dtuba]

Did anyone else here have weird dreams the night before in which an awful or nonsensical title was revealed? 

[JCRendle]

Is the title SPECTRE or Spectre? I know most of the press are spelling it Spectre, but what do they know? 

[YOLT]

Did anyone else here have weird dreams the night before in which an awful or nonsensical title was revealed? 

I had. I had seen POAL all during my dream. ( Property of A Lady )

[dtuba]

Mine was some boring, meaningless word like LeitMotif or Identikit. I really don't remember but it was really bad. And they were going to use some old Tom Petty song for the theme  .

[Walecs]

 

Did anyone else here have weird dreams the night before in which an awful or nonsensical title was revealed? 

I had. I had seen POAL all during my dream. ( Property of A Lady )

 

 

Funny, a few days ago I had a dream about me watching Bond 24 and it was titled Property of a Lady.

 

Then we got something even worse.

[Vauxhall]

Is the title SPECTRE or Spectre? I know most of the press are spelling it Spectre, but what do they know?

It must be SPECTRE, particularly as someone (Craig, I think) alluded to the organisation in an interview.

[JCRendle]

Trying to get that across on the Wikipedia page - but they're sticking to calling it Spectre, as that is what the majority of the Press are going for and that, whist it may be based on the Organisation, there is "no evidence that the title is an abbreviation".

[Trevelyan 006]

I prefer it stylized as, SPECTRE. 

[stromberg]

SPECTRE has just a great look & feel, whereas Spectre is somewhat... dunno. Interesting, this.
 
Guess we're not going to have many discussions about the international titles with this one. Unless they do what they did in the German version of Dr No. They felt the need to translate everything in these days, so it's not SPECTRE, but a meaningless „GOFTER“ = „Geheimorganisation für Terror, Erpressung und Rache“ (Secret Organization for Terror, Extortion and Revenge - which, as I just notice, results in the acronym SOFTEAR). 

 

They realized that this was stupid, and called it PHANTOM from FRWL to TB (without further explanation), finally switched to SPECTRE in YOLT (again without losing a word about it).

[univex]

Translation sucks. Just use the original and don´t dubb films or titles. I hate it when I go to foreign countries and all films are dubbed. Stupidity to the highest level. Brasil, France, Italy, Spain, ... are the worst. Just use the bloody subtitles. And keep it SPECTRE, as it should. 

[tdalton]

Did anyone else here have weird dreams the night before in which an awful or nonsensical title was revealed? 

 

Yes, but then I woke up today and found that it wasn't a dream after all. 

 

Seriously, SPECTRE is a terrible title.  Albeit not quite as bad as its alternate spelling Spectre, which the press are going with, but awful nonetheless. 

 

And the secrecy surrounding these Hollywood films these days is just absurd.  Just tell us which of these actors is playing Blofeld.  I don't even care to see the character return, but all of this nonsense of having to hide the villain's true identity behind another name is getting old.

[Call Billy Bob]

 

Did anyone else here have weird dreams the night before in which an awful or nonsensical title was revealed? 

 

Yes, but then I woke up today and found that it wasn't a dream after all. 

 

Seriously, SPECTRE is a terrible title.  Albeit not quite as bad as its alternate spelling Spectre, which the press are going with, but awful nonetheless. 

 

And the secrecy surrounding these Hollywood films these days is just absurd.  Just tell us which of these actors is playing Blofeld.  I don't even care to see the character return, but all of this nonsense of having to hide the villain's true identity behind another name is getting old.

 

Man, you're really sore about this... shame.

[seawolfnyy]

It should never be written Spectre. It just doesn't look right. It'll always be SPECTRE.

[tdalton]

 

 

Did anyone else here have weird dreams the night before in which an awful or nonsensical title was revealed? 

 

Yes, but then I woke up today and found that it wasn't a dream after all. 

 

Seriously, SPECTRE is a terrible title.  Albeit not quite as bad as its alternate spelling Spectre, which the press are going with, but awful nonetheless. 

 

And the secrecy surrounding these Hollywood films these days is just absurd.  Just tell us which of these actors is playing Blofeld.  I don't even care to see the character return, but all of this nonsense of having to hide the villain's true identity behind another name is getting old.

 

Man, you're really sore about this... shame.

 

 

Not really.  It is what it is.  SPECTRE could still (and probably will) end up being a very good film in its own rite, although it would have been preferable for EON to actually look forward and create new villainous organizations and new villains for Bond to face rather than going back and using Blofeld for the umpteenth time.

[Call Billy Bob]

 

 

 

Did anyone else here have weird dreams the night before in which an awful or nonsensical title was revealed? 

 

Yes, but then I woke up today and found that it wasn't a dream after all. 

 

Seriously, SPECTRE is a terrible title.  Albeit not quite as bad as its alternate spelling Spectre, which the press are going with, but awful nonetheless. 

 

And the secrecy surrounding these Hollywood films these days is just absurd.  Just tell us which of these actors is playing Blofeld.  I don't even care to see the character return, but all of this nonsense of having to hide the villain's true identity behind another name is getting old.

 

Man, you're really sore about this... shame.

 

 

Not really.  It is what it is.  SPECTRE could still (and probably will) end up being a very good film in its own rite, although it would have been preferable for EON to actually look forward and create new villainous organizations and new villains for Bond to face rather than going back and using Blofeld for the umpteenth time.

 

I respect that. I'm not hoping for a carbon copy of what's before, and I'm glad we're getting new characters like Hinx. But I've wanted Blofeld back since CR. If they reinvent him for a new generation, I think that'd be the best of both worlds.

[sharpshooter]

Is the title SPECTRE or Spectre? I know most of the press are spelling it Spectre, but what do they know? 

I'm not sure, to be honest. They put the title in caps in all the press releases, don't they?

[Vauxhall]

Is the title SPECTRE or Spectre? I know most of the press are spelling it Spectre, but what do they know?

I'm not sure, to be honest. They put the title in caps in all the press releases, don't they?

True, but Mendes and Craig both confirmed that the title refers to the same criminal organisation created by Fleming, so it's definitely SPECTRE.

[Hockey Mask]

007.com is using SPECTRE.

[MattofSteel]

It's SPECTRE. Not a lower case character to be found in the official title treatment.

[Professor Pi]

and hopefully this sets up Bond 25 to be Shatterhand, with YOLT's Castle of Death.  I'm glad they stayed faithful to Fleming instead of inventing a new title.  Simple. Classic. 

[Vauxhall]

and hopefully this sets up Bond 25 to be Shatterhand, with YOLT's Castle of Death. I'm glad they stayed faithful to Fleming instead of inventing a new title. Simple. Classic.

On both counts, I couldn't agree more. Regulars around here may be aware BOND 25 being SHATTERHAND is a particular interest of mine...

Couldn't be more excited that today's news means it might actually be a step closer to reality.

[tdalton]

I would be on board with Bond 25 being an adaptation of Fleming's You Only Live Twice, but I'd much rather see EON go against the grain and actually title that film You Only Live Twice.

[Tiin007]

If Bond 25 is titled Shatterhand, that would mean three consecutive films with one-word titles that begin with the letter "s." Seems a bit much, no?

 

Truth is, I very much like the title SPECTRE, but I'd have rather Bond 24 been The Property of a Lady, followed by Bond 25 being SPECTRE (after the organization's introduction in Bond 24).

 

The following order of films, in my opinion, would have had a nice ring to it:

 

Casino Royale

Quantum of Solace

Skyfall

The Property of a Lady

SPECTRE

[dtuba]

I'd even be okay with Garden Of Death for B25, featuring a faithful adaptation of YOLT the novel.

Edited by dtuba, 05 December 2014 - 12:36 AM.

[tdalton]

I'd even be okay with Garden Of Death for B25, featuring a faithful adaptation of YOLT the novel.

 

I'd prefer Garden of Death over Shatterhand.  I'd still prefer they just call it You Only Live Twice, but Garden of Death wouldn't be a bad title either.

 

I would agree with Tiin007 that three one-word titles beginning with the letter "s" would be a bit much.

[Fairbanks]

 

 

 

 

Did anyone else here have weird dreams the night before in which an awful or nonsensical title was revealed? 

 

Yes, but then I woke up today and found that it wasn't a dream after all.  

 

Seriously, SPECTRE is a terrible title.  Albeit not quite as bad as its alternate spelling Spectre, which the press are going with, but awful nonetheless. 

 

And the secrecy surrounding these Hollywood films these days is just absurd.  Just tell us which of these actors is playing Blofeld.  I don't even care to see the character return, but all of this nonsense of having to hide the villain's true identity behind another name is getting old.

 

Man, you're really sore about this... shame.

 

 

Not really.  It is what it is.  SPECTRE could still (and probably will) end up being a very good film in its own rite, although it would have been preferable for EON to actually look forward and create new villainous organizations and new villains for Bond to face rather than going back and using Blofeld for the umpteenth time.

 

 

I don't see how a fan of James Bond movies can sniff at the idea of reusing crap from the 1960's. That's the vital premise of James Bond's immortality, isn't it? That certain characters have a timeless, iconic quality that can be adapted to new times and settings? If James Bond can be renewed again and again in fun and engaging ways, and if personalities like Q and Moneypenny and Felix Leiter can be reinvented and rejuvenated, why is it uniquely terrible to revive SPECTRE and Blofeld after an absence of thirty-something years? Reusing a name and a few basic character traits does not preclude novelty. On the contrary, it compels the creators to be more novel than they might otherwise be, in order to distinguish their new version from the old version. 

 

As for the capitalization of the title: I'm still not sure whether the title is meant to be uppercase or lowercase. Every occurrence of the word on 007.com is uppercase. But in principle, there's no reason that the title has to match the acronym. The title may refer both to SPECTRE and to a spectre. The title could be an allusion to the word that the acronym spells out, not a quotation of the acronym itself. In TB, Bond spoke about "the spectre of defeat", not "the SPECTRE of defeat". 

 

I would be on board with Bond 25 being an adaptation of Fleming's You Only Live Twice, but I'd much rather see EON go against the grain and actually title that film You Only Live Twice.

 

So it's contemptibly unoriginal to reuse the name "Blofeld" and an organization called "SPECTRE", but making a second film called You Only Live Twice is "going against the grain"? I begin to suspect that you're trolling us, Tdalton. 

Edited by Fairbanks, 05 December 2014 - 12:54 AM.

[Professor Pi]

I would be on board with Bond 25 being an adaptation of Fleming's You Only Live Twice, but I'd much rather see EON go against the grain and actually title that film You Only Live Twice.

 

Bond does need to reclaim all that YOLO stuff!