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[tdalton]

 I begin to suspect that you're trolling us, Tdalton. 

 

 

I'm not.

 

SPECTRE is too much of an on-the-nose title.  There's not a whole lot of mystery there, and that organization isn't really something that needs to be brought back considering they have a newly formed Quantum that they could have built up in its place.

 

Reusing the title You Only Live Twice would be a good way of reclaiming that title from a film that bore absolutely no resemblance to the novel it was based on.  If they could come up with a title that encompassed YOLT's story as well as You Only Live Twice does, then that would be fine, but it's really a perfect title for that story, and would capture the spirit of the story in a way that Shatterhand simply couldn't.

[Trevelyan 006]

I'd even be okay with Garden Of Death for B25, featuring a faithful adaptation of YOLT the novel.

God please. Yes. This is exactly what I wish for.

 

Garden of Death as the title would be perfect, too. Not only does it tie to Fleming, but also has a certain Kung-Fu title ring to it (which I'd have absolutely no problem with, being a big fan of the genre)!

 

Fingers crossed.

[sharpshooter]

I couldn't see them using You Only Live Twice as a title again. I do, however, see them bringing back Waltz and adapting the book more faithfully with the garden of death.

[Call Billy Bob]

Reusing the title You Only Live Twice would be a good way of reclaiming that title from a film that bore absolutely no resemblance to the novel it was based on.  If they could come up with a title that encompassed YOLT's story as well as You Only Live Twice does, then that would be fine, but it's really a perfect title for that story, and would capture the spirit of the story in a way that Shatterhand simply couldn't.

 

I completely agree with this part.

[Matt_13]

I couldn't see them using You Only Live Twice as a title again. I do, however, see them bringing back Waltz and adapting the book more faithfully with the garden of death.

 

This. I really hope they secure Waltz for another film.

[tdalton]

I couldn't see them using You Only Live Twice as a title again. I do, however, see them bringing back Waltz and adapting the book more faithfully with the garden of death.

 

I don't either.  Just a wish of mine that they would go that route.  I think they'd have some cover from which to do it, given that a lot of the media thought Casino Royale was a remake and that movie didn't suffer at the box office because of it.

[seawolfnyy]

I'm still thinking the Castle of Death/Shatterhand story would best be left until Bond 26. Let SPECTRE establish the new Blofeld. Bond 25 will be the OHMSS of this storyline, whether that involves Tracy or not, who knows? Then Bond can finally have his final (and LONG OVERDUE) confrontation with Blofeld at the Castle of Death.

[Vauxhall]

I'm still thinking the Castle of Death/Shatterhand story would best be left until Bond 26. Let SPECTRE establish the new Blofeld. Bond 25 will be the OHMSS of this storyline, whether that involves Tracy or not, who knows? Then Bond can finally have his final (and LONG OVERDUE) confrontation with Blofeld at the Castle of Death.

 

A lot of it depends on how many more films Craig will do. I think the Shatterhand plot should be Craig's finale, be it BOND 25 or 26.

[sharpshooter]

I agree. In my romanticised world, Blofeld disappears after SPECTRE, Craig does Bond 25 with another heavyweight ala Largo (but maybe not Largo) stepping in to fill the void. And then with Bond 26, Bond discovers Blofeld has been hiding out in Japan. Six Craig outings would be excellent.

[AMC Hornet]

Stromberg's gone and locked the 'Unlikely Titles' thread on the heels of Prof. Pi's suggestion, "Never Say Spectre Again" and before I could offer 'Spectre of Solace'.

 

SPECTRE is fine with me. Roll on Nov 2015!

[Tarl_Cabot]

Spectre?

 

To quote Dom Delouise from History of the world part 1: Nice. Not thrilling but nice.

 

My title: THE POWERS THAT BE

 

Evokes that invisible ruling class that's always meddling in the affairs and determining the way of the world for us poor liliputions...

 

 

still, everything else is pretty darn great. The cast, the car...and Monica Belucci is now the first 40+ year old Bond girl, which I don't mind at all. Great day to be  Bond fan. I had to come out of hiding for this.

[AMC Hornet]

I couldn't see them using You Only Live Twice as a title again. I do, however, see them bringing back Waltz and adapting the book more faithfully with the garden of death.

 

Everyone is assuming Waltz is playing Blofeld.

 

What if EON throws us a curve, and Dave Bautista plays the head of SPECTRE?

 

Or Monica Belucci?

 

Or Andrew Scott?

 

Sure, they announced names for some of the characters, but nobody believed the Oberhauser cover story, and everyone was hoping that Hinx was a place-holder.

 

Just sayin' - what if?

 

That should keep us occupied for some time.

[x007AceOfSpades]

I agree with that assessment, AMC. It's pretty open right now. Anyone could be Blofeld, or rather the head of SPECTRE.

[Guy Haines]

On the subject of who plays Blofeld in SPECTRE - suppose he's not in it at all? Except perhaps in the good old fashioned way - back of head, hands on lap, voice only? Or a new way - his or her underlings getting their orders online?

 

As for throwing a curve in this film - if Blofeld isn't Christoph Waltz then I think it most likely they'll change the villain's gender. But most of the evasiveness yesterday concerned Waltz's character, with Sam Mendes not even naming him when the actor was invited in stage. I may be wrong but either Waltz is playing Blofeld, or the character isn't in the film at all and we won't see him (her?) until the next movie.

 

And as for that next movie - if we are looking at a possible filming of the story of You Only Live Twice, including the garden scenes, well, if not  the original title or "Shatterhand" then how about this chapter title from the novel - "The Death Collector".

 

Sounds a bit like a horror film title I know, but YOLT the novel was pretty horrific in parts in the last quarter. (And incidentally, maybe they could find room, in these days of improved special effects, for that Bond-v-giant squid scene from Dr No.)

[Hansen]

Should Monica Bellucci be Blofeld, "Property of a Lady" would be a perfect title for Bond 25

[whitesox]

 

I couldn't see them using You Only Live Twice as a title again. I do, however, see them bringing back Waltz and adapting the book more faithfully with the garden of death.

 

Everyone is assuming Waltz is playing Blofeld.

 

What if EON throws us a curve, and Dave Bautista plays the head of SPECTRE?

 

Or Monica Belucci?

 

Or Andrew Scott?

 

Sure, they announced names for some of the characters, but nobody believed the Oberhauser cover story, and everyone was hoping that Hinx was a place-holder.

 

Just sayin' - what if?

 

That should keep us occupied for some time.

 

My bet: Andrew Scott is.

[sharpshooter]

 

I couldn't see them using You Only Live Twice as a title again. I do, however, see them bringing back Waltz and adapting the book more faithfully with the garden of death.

 

Everyone is assuming Waltz is playing Blofeld.

I'm confident he's Blofeld. If you want to bring an iconic part back after a long period of time, you hire an actor like Waltz.

[Orion]

 

 

I couldn't see them using You Only Live Twice as a title again. I do, however, see them bringing back Waltz and adapting the book more faithfully with the garden of death.

 

Everyone is assuming Waltz is playing Blofeld.

 

What if EON throws us a curve, and Dave Bautista plays the head of SPECTRE?

 

Or Monica Belucci?

 

Or Andrew Scott?

 

Sure, they announced names for some of the characters, but nobody believed the Oberhauser cover story, and everyone was hoping that Hinx was a place-holder.

 

Just sayin' - what if?

 

That should keep us occupied for some time.

 

My bet: Andrew Scott is.

 

Andrew Scott's unlikely as it would be identical to the introduction of Moriarty in Sherlock - Given it's easily Scott's most famous role I'm sure Mendes and EON will want to avoid similarities like the plague let alone mimic the primary antagonists introduction.

[seawolfnyy]

 

 

I couldn't see them using You Only Live Twice as a title again. I do, however, see them bringing back Waltz and adapting the book more faithfully with the garden of death.

 

Everyone is assuming Waltz is playing Blofeld.

I'm confident he's Blofeld. If you want to bring an iconic part back after a long period of time, you hire an actor like Waltz.

 

The only other one I could see would be Monica Bellucci. But come on guys, it's Waltz. On another note, does anyone else think that The Property of a Lady would be a good title for an OHMSS remake followed by Shatterhand to end the Blofeld arc?

[Harmsway]

I agree with that assessment, AMC. It's pretty open right now. Anyone could be Blofeld, or rather the head of SPECTRE.

Waltz is Blofeld per the original Daily Mail report, which was also the first report to break the news about the Oberhauser cover, meaning they had a legitimate source.

It's Eve Moneypenny all over again.

[Vauxhall]

I couldn't see them using You Only Live Twice as a title again. I do, however, see them bringing back Waltz and adapting the book more faithfully with the garden of death.

Everyone is assuming Waltz is playing Blofeld.

I'm confident he's Blofeld. If you want to bring an iconic part back after a long period of time, you hire an actor like Waltz.

Agreed. Scott, Bellucci and Seydoux are all great actors, but Waltz is the only one genuinely worthy of being a rebooted Blofeld.

I agree with that assessment, AMC. It's pretty open right now. Anyone could be Blofeld, or rather the head of SPECTRE.

Waltz is Blofeld per the original Daily Mail report, which was also the first report to break the news about the Oberhauser cover, meaning they had a legitimate source.
It's Eve Moneypenny all over again.

Indeed. There's no great mystery surrounding Blofeld in my opinion, and that's okay. The sense I got from the interviews yesterday is that the cast know the secret is out, but aren't too bothered.

[sharpshooter]

From my point of view there's no mystery either. It's basically confirmed. But the lack of mystery is replaced with something far greater. And that's excitement of how good it's all going to be.

[Harmsway]

From my point of view there's no mystery either. It's basically confirmed. But the lack of mystery is replaced with something far greater. And that's excitement of how good it's all going to be.

Exactly. The first thing I said when I heard that Waltz was cast was that Waltz would be the perfect Blofeld. Little did I know that that's exactly what we were going to get.

[dirtymind]

From my point of view there's no mystery either. It's basically confirmed. But the lack of mystery is replaced with something far greater. And that's excitement of how good it's all going to be.

 

There was no mystery for me in Casino Royale, because I knew what was going to happen because of the novel. But it's still one of the best Bond movies ever made.

[Hansen]

Twists never truly worked in Bond films (FYEO, TWINE, GE). Or should I say, we do not care.

Having a twist on such an iconic character means a very meticulous construction otherwise it will feel extremely awkward

[univex]

True. Very true. But there will be a twist, one sees it in their eyes, particularly in Mendes. 

[Professor Pi]

Twists never truly worked in Bond films (FYEO, TWINE, GE). Or should I say, we do not care.

Having a twist on such an iconic character means a very meticulous construction otherwise it will feel extremely awkward

 

The GE twist they ruined in the trailer, likewise TWINE spoiled it in its ads.  And Topol's character was so much more likable than Kristatos' that one was more happy and relieved by it than shocked or surprised.  The title and the poster's bullet hole are just the right amount of tease so perhaps they learned their marketing lessons.

Edited by Professor Pi, 06 December 2014 - 10:35 PM.

[x007AceOfSpades]

 

I agree with that assessment, AMC. It's pretty open right now. Anyone could be Blofeld, or rather the head of SPECTRE.

Waltz is Blofeld per the original Daily Mail report, which was also the first report to break the news about the Oberhauser cover, meaning they had a legitimate source.

It's Eve Moneypenny all over again.

 

You mean there's not going to be a massive plot twist where it turns out that Mallory is Blofeld??

 

I thought about my comment again after posting it, and you're right, it's pretty much Eve Moneypenny all over again.

 

(Side note, love the new avatar lol)

[007jamesbond]

I believe there will be a twist that actually will work......just because the previous movie fail to execute it property. it does not mean it won't happen be successful this time around 

[Harmsway]

(Side note, love the new avatar lol)

Thanks!