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[DamnCoffee]

Some new footage! Nice to hear Dalton, as well!

[Sniperscope]

here's something a bit fun fact-y: End of Time pt 1 was originally titled The Final Days of Planet Earth.

Oh what a swizz they didn't keep that title - it was very 50s B Movie cool!
As any Doctor Who fan knows - stories with the word TIME in it are simply awful (with the honourable exception of THE TIME WARRIOR, I guess!)... here's hoping for an exception to the rule!

Edited by Sniperscope, 23 December 2009 - 12:16 PM.

[DamnCoffee]

I have a feeling that End of Time: Part One will keep things moderatly light, and Part Two will be when the hits the fan.

Ah well, we'll all find out, TOMORROW NIGHT.

[Orion]

Slightly shorter BBC America trailer for The End Of Time part 1. Dalton's voice is perfect for this.

[DamnCoffee]

God, Dalton has a brilliant voice!

[Tybre]

For those interested there's this. Pretty much a regurgitation of old clips, but there is some new stuff.

I have a feeling that End of Time: Part One will keep things moderatly light, and Part Two will be when the hits the fan.

Ah well, we'll all find out, TOMORROW NIGHT.

What I've read of the plot of Pt 1, which is only supposed to be like 20-ish minutes, is not too bad actually. Of course the actual writing could make it tank, but the synopsis doesn't sound bad. BRING ON CHRISTMAS DAY!

Here's a rumor I quite like, although I doubt such will prove to be the case. Ten's first word was "Hello" so his final word should be "Goodbye".

Oh and I've been thinking. Even though people have been saying the Immortality Gate supposedly has the power to revive entire planets and thus might be the cause of the return of Gallifrey and the Time Lords, I was re-watching Trial of a Time Lord yesterday and the Doctor says something early on which I'd quite forgotten about. Specifically, he says "I am Lord President of the Nine Gallifreys." Now, according to Shadows of Avalon, Nine Gallifreys is the term for the nine clone worlds of Gallifrey that existed to confuse the Enemy during the War. And according to the Taking of Planet 5, even more copies of Gallifrey were said to exist in pocket dimensions in case the Nine Gallifreys were destroyed. Now, sure, all this explanation comes from EDA and not the show, so take it as you will, but it is possible. I still think the Immortality Gate reviving Gallifrey is more likely, but I won't rule out the Nine Gallifreys.

And finally,

[Peaceful]

It's about 1.15am Christmas morning here in Sydney. The excitement is building.
Got to wait till Sat morning our time to find out what happens.
Will be onto youtube like a madwoman.
Happy Christmas/Holidays

Pfod.

[sharpshooter]

I have a feeling that End of Time: Part One will keep things moderatly light, and Part Two will be when the hits the fan.

I suspect that's the case. Looking forward to part one, but part two will really bring down the house.

[DamnCoffee]

We'll soon find out, in 16 hours time.

Merry Christmas, Sharpshooter.

[Mr. Blofeld]

So... who's ready to have the house brought down on them?

[DamnCoffee]

Just seen Part One. My reaction.... mixed.

I felt oddly unmoved at the end, but I had a few tears in one scene.

Spoiler

Fistly, the Masters plot is truly bonkers, even for Doctor Who. Basically, the Master enters the immortality gate, and turns every single person in the world into himself. Except Donna, Wilf and The Doctor. His actions also bring the Time Lords back, who are led my none other than our own Timothy Dalton.

Now, my tear you ask? There\'s a very moving scene when the Doctor and Wilf are sitting in a cafe, and the Doctor is actually crying, well.. forcing back tears.

It starts out great, but the end I think went too far, even for Doctor Who.

Part 2 Trailer is up...

[Royal Dalton]

It was better than I thought it would be. Worth watching for Dalton and Cribbins, anyway. And Tennant was relatively restrained for a change.

[volante]

Mixed feelings indeed, I dunno just not enough happened.

The story cracks on and it just seems that anyone can do anything.

Edited by volante, 25 December 2009 - 07:33 PM.

[DamnCoffee]

Exclusive Scene from Part 2:



BBC One Trailer!

[Ravenstone]

Ooooo Loving it! I didn't think it was half bad, actually. And I take my hat off to John Simms for all those costume changes.

I'll be really sad to see the end of David Tennant's tenure, that's for sure.

[Peaceful]

Is it on youtube yet?
Don't want to wait forever to see it.
Heck knows when Australia gets it!

[DamnCoffee]

I think i'm warming to the 'Master Race' idea now.



If you want to see Dalton in action?

[Tybre]

Is it on youtube yet?
Don't want to wait forever to see it.
Heck knows when Australia gets it!

Don't know about YT, but I do now of somewhere that has DivX versions up now and a flash copy will likely be up by tomorrow afternoon. Will PM if you're interested. Don't want to go getting anyone here in this thread *coughmyselfcough* into trouble for linking to copyrighted material.

Scratch. I have found a working Megavideo copy. Alas I must delay it temporarily while I attend to other matters.

[Sniperscope]

Well that was cack. Unmitigated cack.
Liked the shimmer stuff with the Doctor, but the rest was lame superhero movie-ripoffs, signs, portents and prophecy hokum, self-indulgent "I'm going to die" blither - yep we all are you bloody self-centred git... He is coming, who is He?, He is here blah blah, oooo darkness is coming, backwards talking voiceovers "people of the world did sleep" urk! The Silver Cloak what was the point? Indeed what is the point? - no plot whatsoever.... lots of running, rubbish music zzzzz. Harry Potter, LOTR ripoff dialogue... in fact, a funny thing happened to dialogue on the way to the station, eh?! Meglos anyone?
Did anyone else feel even slightly embarrassed watching this? Come on, admit it?!
But I will admit the two big reveals at the end were very good and Abigail - woah! "Bringer of Joy" indeed! Oh ho ho ho!

Edited by Sniperscope, 26 December 2009 - 05:32 AM.

[Tybre]

Just finished watching Part One. Overall mixed feelings regarding the story itself, but I gotta say, goddamn that final scene is awesome. Will refrain from saying more until US broadcast, which is nine tonight or something, if I remember correctly.

[Peaceful]

Oh dear.
Someone's a mister grumpypants aren't they?

I enjoyed it, and am really looking forward to the finale next week.
Too much negative energy there sniper, don't forget it is a children's programme after all.

LOL

P

ps that ranting made you sound a bit Lauren Cooper, I found very funny.

[Sniperscope]

Oh dear.
Someone's a mister grumpypants aren't they?

I enjoyed it, and am really looking forward to the finale next week.
Too much negative energy there sniper, don't forget it is a children's programme after all.

LOL

P

ps that ranting made you sound a bit Lauren Cooper, I found very funny.

LOL and peace-out to you Peaceful! If u enjoyed it cool! I genuinely enjoyed some parts of it certainly - the two ending scenes were quite audacious and bad girl Abigail kept me more than entertained!
BTw it's not wholly a children's programme don't forget (that's the SJA or K9) - DW is recognised as a family / all-ages show.

Edited by Sniperscope, 27 December 2009 - 01:53 PM.

[David Schofield]

Pretty much on a similar wavelength to Sniperscope.

After a dominant performance in Waters of Mars, Tennant was back to doing his "Tony Blair in space" schtick. Change, please.

Some great ideas, unfulfilled. Sound familiar? Again, change is coming, thank goodness.

But Simm. He made the episode and keeps you watching. I know its a cliche, but you'd watch the guy read the phonebook. DW is lucky to have had him because he really is on a different level to the standard of tripe around him.

[DamnCoffee]

This scene was fantastic! It was so moving.



I'm not ashamed to say that I had a tear at this.

[Sniperscope]

Pretty much on a similar wavelength to Sniperscope.

After a dominant performance in Waters of Mars, Tennant was back to doing his "Tony Blair in space" schtick. Change, please.

Some great ideas, unfulfilled. Sound familiar? Again, change is coming, thank goodness.

But Simm. He made the episode and keeps you watching. I know its a cliche, but you'd watch the guy read the phonebook. DW is lucky to have had him because he really is on a different level to the standard of tripe around him.

True - I must admit I was a bit undecided on Simm in LOTTL - thought he overplayed it somewhat and was a little apprehensive with his return but I'll be the first to concede I was wrong here. I agree, in EOT I think he was the standout actor as well. At one stage when Simm was in the "wastelands," with Tennant' gurning in agony and asking him to hear the drums in his head, I thought - now, this guy should have played the Doctor!

Edited by Sniperscope, 27 December 2009 - 01:50 PM.

[David Schofield]

I agree, in EOT I think he was the standout actor as well. At one stage when Simm was in the "wastelands," with Tennant' gurning in agony and asking him to hear the drums in his head, I thought - now, this guy should have played the Doctor!

Yes, I have thought for a while that the Dr Who team must have regretted casting Simm as the Master as that would have elminated him as a potential new Who.

But then again, I think he's just too good an actor for the standard of DW writing so it's probably a good job it can't happen

[Conlazmoodalbrocra]

Yesterday's episode summed up why I think Doctor Who's gone down the toilet ever since they brought it back. Sure there have been some great episodes and there are still glimpses of the old magic, but Davies seems intent on resurrecting every plot imaginable just to prolong the life of a series which was probably best left in the past. Nevertheless, I'll be tuning in on New Years' Day to see how DT's tenure ends. But I stand by the fact that the quality of the post-McCoy years is second rate to the golden years of Pertwee and Tom Baker. Those were the days...(I've seen them on UK GOLD. I wasn't alive in the 60s )

[Sniperscope]

I agree, in EOT I think he was the standout actor as well. At one stage when Simm was in the "wastelands," with Tennant' gurning in agony and asking him to hear the drums in his head, I thought - now, this guy should have played the Doctor!

Yes, I have thought for a while that the Dr Who team must have regretted casting Simm as the Master as that would have elminated him as a potential new Who.

But then again, I think he's just too good an actor for the standard of DW writing so it's probably a good job it can't happen

I won't belabour the point but the standard of writing in these 2009 specials has been shoddy. For the amount of time RTD has had I expected more.
I guess too much has been placed on his shoulders and all year he's probably had his eyes set on Hollywood horizons.

Edited by Sniperscope, 27 December 2009 - 01:56 PM.

[Tybre]

One thing that's been bugging me:

Spoiler

Does anyone else think Gallifrey, in both the final scene and in the preview of the next episode, looks immensely like the Star Wars prequels? I mean, what happened to the good old opulent city and Capitol? Now the High Council has to meet on Coruscant? Alright, well, maybe that final scene doesn't take place on Gallifrey. But it still bugs me.

And the rest of my complaints shall come along with my likes later this evening.

[David Schofield]

One thing that's been bugging me:

Spoiler

Does anyone else think Gallifrey, in both the final scene and in the preview of the next episode, looks immensely like the Star Wars prequels? I mean, what happened to the good old opulent city and Capitol? Now the High Council has to meet on Coruscant? Alright, well, maybe that final scene doesn't take place on Gallifrey. But it still bugs me.

And the rest of my complaints shall come along with my likes later this evening.

Of course THAT'll lead us to RTD's next sleight of hand....

How to get from THAT date without the services of Dr McGann....