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[DamnCoffee]

I felt he was more of a prick than anything else! Bring on Matt Smith, is what I say!

I hate this period of a series or film. The current actor is about to leave, and certain people feel the need to ditch them and slag them off. I'm looking forward to Smith as much as anyone, but come on, Tennant must be praised for his contribution. He was absolutely brilliant in Waters of Mars.

I completely agree. It was exactly the same with Brosnan, when he was dropped. Disgraceful.

Tennant will, and always will be, my Doctor.

[Tybre]

To be fair, there are also plenty of people slagging off the new guy without having seen him do anything yet. S'pose that's just how it is. People enjoyed but didn't love the past guy hurry to the new one, those who are "OMGTENTHDOCTORISTHESEXIESTTHINGEVAR" are quick to write off his successor. And then there's chaps like me, what's in the middle. Tennant is brilliant and I don't want him to go, but now that I know who's replacing him and have seen filming videos and things, I want to see Smith in action already. Oh well. Bring on Christmas!

[Zorin Industries]

To be fair, there are also plenty of people slagging off the new guy without having seen him do anything yet. S'pose that's just how it is. People enjoyed but didn't love the past guy hurry to the new one, those who are "OMGTENTHDOCTORISTHESEXIESTTHINGEVAR" are quick to write off his successor. And then there's chaps like me, what's in the middle. Tennant is brilliant and I don't want him to go, but now that I know who's replacing him and have seen filming videos and things, I want to see Smith in action already. Oh well. Bring on Christmas!

Although I highly rate Tennent and think he had more in him, trust me, Matt Smith is going to put him well and truly in the shade. From what I have heard from a fairly reliable source he is gobsmacking crew and fellow cast members alike and has nailed it on day one. And he is a thoroughly decent actor and personality too. DOCTOR WHO is lucky to have him.

Which leaves the Doctor with a dilemma...

Should he risk it and carry on, and try to put everything right but not completely. Or should he sacrifice himself, Donna and The Timelords, to save the universe...

I think you've answered that yourself Mharkin! Considering the hype around the regeneration I would imagine the latter!

The DOCTOR is not the only element to about to regenerate...

[DamnCoffee]

I hope you're right Zorin.

I have a feeling that Smith will be outstanding. I really love Tennant, and he's the one who got me into Doctor Who. I remember watching Series 1 and being far from impressed, and when Tennant came onboard, I was instantly converted. Saying that though, I see Eccleston as a brilliant Doctor now.

I owe Tennant so much though, he's my favorite Doctor and always will be.

[Tybre]

Now see, I got into Doctor Who from the moment I saw the End of the World. I love Eccleston Doc. (This post I think does a good job of explaining a part of why I love Nine.) Sure he's not the best, but I do quite like him. Tennant I loved when he came in, and initially thought he was spades above Eccleston (okay, he's still a better actor, but I prefer Nine to Ten, sue me). Not right off the bat, mind. Throughout Christmas Invasion I was a bit like, well, every supporting character, just kind of sitting there like "Who the hell is he? Where's the Doctor?" But by the time New Earth ended, I'd completely accepted him in the role. But hey, first time I'd ever seen a regeneration. I'm sure it left quite a few people like me. So if we're counting the Doctor who got us into the show as "my Doctor" that makes Doctor #9 my Doctor, I suppose. Still a bit sad they didn't sign him for just one more season. And I wish I knew why he left. Specifically, I mean. From comments he's made it's pretty obvious he didn't have the greatest time working on the show, but I can't help but be curious about specifically what it was that made him decide "one season and I'm done". Oh wells. Things change. That's the nature of the show.

[Roebuck]

Still a bit sad they didn't sign him for just one more season. And I wish I knew why he left. Specifically, I mean. From comments he's made it's pretty obvious he didn't have the greatest time working on the show, but I can't help but be curious about specifically what it was that made him decide "one season and I'm done". Oh wells. Things change. That's the nature of the show.

My wife saw Sophie Aldred (Ace) at an autograph fair during the summer and she mentioned running into Eccleston. She tried talking him into doing conventions, but he said people would inevitably ask him why he left. The gist of it was that he couldn’t share the details and would have loved to stay on had circumstances been different.

Incidentally, Matt Smith went to see a play Eccleston was doing recently and visited him backstage. Apparently their big fans of each others work. Nice to hear.

[marktmurphy]

I felt he was more of a prick than anything else! Bring on Matt Smith, is what I say!

I hate this period of a series or film. The current actor is about to leave, and certain people feel the need to ditch them and slag them off. I'm looking forward to Smith as much as anyone, but come on, Tennant must be praised for his contribution. He was absolutely brilliant in Waters of Mars.

I don't think Mr Blofeld was talking about Tennant: he was talking about the Tenth Doctor. And the Doctor was being a bit of a tit in Waters of Mars- that was sort of the point of the ending.

[DamnCoffee]

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[Mr. Blofeld]

I'm sorry I pissed you off, Mharkin; it's just that, out of all the footage of Tennant as the Doctor that exists, the only ones I've seen of him have been of the Doctor acting like a complete and total twät (no offense).

[Tybre]

I'm sorry I pissed you off, Mharkin; it's just that, out of all the footage of Tennant as the Doctor that exists, the only ones I've seen of him have been of the Doctor acting like a complete and total (no offense).

You haven't watched much Doctor Who then, have you? There are plenty of places where he isn't a/an . But still, to each their own.

[Mr. Blofeld]

You haven't watched much Doctor Who then, have you? There are plenty of places where he isn't a twät. But still, to each their own.

He just annoys me, that's all; ever since his god-awful performance in Goblet of Fire, I just haven't been his biggest fan.

[Tybre]

You haven't watched much Doctor Who then, have you? There are plenty of places where he isn't a twät. But still, to each their own.

He just annoys me, that's all; ever since his god-awful performance in Goblet of Fire, I just haven't been his biggest fan.

Honestly I remember like nothing from Goblet of Fire. Or Phoenix. Every film post-Azkaban has a tendency to go poof, and pretty soon Prince should be joining them. And is it really necessary to remove my voluntary censor?

Edit:

I just remembered, Doctor Who is officially middle-aged today.

[Tybre]

News news newsity news news news.

First up, the BBC's press release for The End of Time reads thusly:

Part 1 - Its the Tenth Doctors final journey – but his psychotic nemesis the Master has been reborn, on Christmas Eve. With both determined to cheat death, the battle ranges from the wastelands of London to the mysterious Immortality Gate, while the alien Ood warn of an even greater danger approaching, as a terrible shadow falls across the entire Universe.

Part 2 - The Doctor faces the end of his life as the Master's plans hurtle out of control. With the sound of drums growing louder, and an ancient trap closing around the Earth, the Doctor and Wilf must fight alone. But sacrifices must be made, and the deadly prophecy warns He will knock four times.

Next up, an interesting-ish article on Den of the Geek. Bit old. Nothing too new there honestly. But it's still a bit interesting to look at.

And finally the source from whence I get most of my Doctor Who news (including the above) is reporting a list of rumoured (rumour being the operative word here) Series 5 titles, which I think may be the same as one of the ones posted earlier, but I'm not going back to check. List is:

Spoiler

Episode 01: The Eleventh Hour. Writer Steven Moffat.
Episode 02: Title TBC. Writer Steven Moffat.
Episode 03: Title TBC. Writer Mark Gatiss (Daleks & Churchill).
Episode 04: Time of Angels. Writer Steven Moffat (Weeping Angels, River Song, part 1/2).
Episode 05: Flesh & Stone. Writer Steven Moffat (Weeping Angels, River Song, part 2/2).
Episode 06: Vampires of Venice. Writer Toby Whithouse.
Episode 07: Title & Writer TBC.
Episode 08: Title TBC. Writer Chris Chibnall (Silurians part 1/2).
Episode 09: Cold Blood. Writer Chris Chibnall (Silurians, part 2/2).
Episode 10: Vincent & The Doctor. Writer Richard Curtis (Van Gogh).
Episode 11: Title & Writer TBC.
Episode 12 & 13: Titles TBC. Writer Steven Moffat.
Episode 14: (Xmas 2010) Title & Writer TBC (Assuming there is a xmas episode).

Some observations on the list:

-"Vincent & The Doctor", which may in fact not be the title, seems confirmable to a point; Richard Curtis has said he is writing an episode which features "Van Gogh stabbing a yellow monster"
-Gareth Roberts is probably some of the TBC if this is true, as his agent has confirmed he has penned two episodes this season
-By God Moffat's quite the busybody, isn't he? (Five episodes there, and according to Digital Spy Moffat has written six episodes this series, which technically the list is six counting the finale's credit separately)
-This now makes either two or three sources citing "The Eleventh Hour" as the premier title. I hope it's true.
-Chris Chibnall's return is confirmed. Whether or not he is actually penning the Silurian episodes I don't know. Still, the man who wrote 42 writing Silurians should be interesting, although I do think his work on Life on Mars were two of the weaker episodes of the series, so could go either way really.
-Vampires of Venice has such a delightful ring to it. I do hope, though, they either recycle the Space Vampires (something ca. Vampire Science wouldn't be bad) or the Haemovores. Doctor Who doesn't need more vampires with more origin stories.
-I do, for the most part, still find the list(s) hard to believe. Especially the Weeping Angels episodes. I mean maybe the Angels are responsible for the crash of the Byzantium, but I'm calling bollocks on that until I've seen pictures or the episode has aired. At the end of the day I'm still chalking most/all of the list up as fan conjecture making the rounds.

[Peaceful]

Here's my two quid on it.

Spoiler

Firstly, I hope ep one will be called 11th Hour also, very apporpriate.
Secondly am a little put off with the Dalek/Churchill time period thing. Assuming it's set during WWII - why? Daleks Manhatten etc was round that era and same with Empty Child etc.
Would like to see a different period not yet seen in the new series. Howard Wilson's Ministry in the 60's or 70's perhaps??
Thirdly. Do like the title of ep6 though.

Anyway.

Peaceful out.

[DamnCoffee]

Official Synopsis for The End Of Time: Parts 1 & 2!

Doctor Who – The End Of Time: Part One
The Tenth Doctor (David Tennant) embarks on his final journey, but his psychotic nemesis the Master has been reborn, on Christmas Eve.

With both determined to cheat death, the battle ranges from the wastelands of London to the mysterious Immortality Gate, while the alien Ood warn of an even greater danger approaching, as a terrible shadow falls across the entire Universe.

David Tennant stars as the Tenth Doctor and guest stars include John Simm, Bernard Cribbins, Catherine Tate, Timothy Dalton, David Harewood and June Whitfield.

The End Of Time – Part One is written by Russell T Davies and directed by Euros Lyn. The producer is Tracie Simpson.

Doctor Who – The End Of Time: Part Two
The Doctor faces the end of his life as the Master's plans hurtle out of control.

With the sound of drums growing louder, and an ancient trap closing around the Earth, the Doctor and Wilf must fight alone. But sacrifices must be made, and the deadly prophecy warns: "He will knock four times."

David Tennant stars as the Tenth Doctor and guest stars include John Simm, Bernard Cribbins, Catherine Tate, Timothy Dalton, David Harewood and June Whitfield.

The End Of Time – Part Two is written by Russell T Davies and directed by Euros Lyn. The producer is Tracie Simpson.

[Tybre]

Here's my two quid on it.

Spoiler

Secondly am a little put off with the Dalek/Churchill time period thing. Assuming it's set during WWII - why? Daleks Manhatten etc was round that era and same with Empty Child etc.

Anyway.

Peaceful out.

Spoiler

Earlier filming pictures confirm Daleks, seemingly WWII, and a man who appears to be playing Churchill. Audio clips (which have since been pulled but can probably be found elsewhere) also note a professor/scientist person claiming he created them, calling them "Ironsides" and the Daleks are apparently pretending to be domesticated. I don't think it'll be the best episode ever but I bet it'll be good. Personally I'm quite looking forward to it.

[Jim]

June Whitfield?

Oh dear.

[DamnCoffee]

"NOTHINGS THE MATTER WITH ME DOCTOR... I'M ALRIGHT! Oh, the good old days. WHAT a carry on, and not a care in the world!"




Apparently June is playing Minnie Hooper, an aged Time Lord, or Lady...

[Jim]

"NOTHINGS THE MATTER WITH ME DOCTOR... I'M ALRIGHT! Oh, the good old days. WHAT a carry on, and not a care in the world!"




Apparently June is playing Minnie Hooper, an aged Time Lord, or Lady...

Bet she turns out to be his mum, or gran, or something equally vile.

Am rapidly tiring of all the emoty claptrap. I expect I'll end up watching it though.

[DamnCoffee]

How did you find Waters Of Mars, Jim?

[Jim]

How did you find Waters Of Mars, Jim?

I turned on the television and there it was.

B-bm.

Seemed to be yet more running up and down corridors. There seemed to be a lot of that. Ending was very funny.

[Zorin Industries]

Apparently June is playing Minnie Hooper, an aged Time Lord, or Lady...

You sure on that one? (!)

[Tybre]

Well either

A. The Sun is full of it

or

B. The rumor of the Doctor first meeting Amy Pond as a child seems to be quite valid.

The article can be read here. Make of it what you will.

[DamnCoffee]

Apparently June is playing Minnie Hooper, an aged Time Lord, or Lady...

You sure on that one? (!)

I remember hearing it somewhere. I might be true, but yet again, it might not.

[marktmurphy]

Seemed to be yet more running up and down corridors. There seemed to be a lot of that.

A bit like complaining that a Bond movie has explosions, isn't it? That's sort of what happens in Dr Who, always has. At least they made a joke about the corridor running with the bike thing. I quite liked having someone in a sci-fi show saying that they don't like cute robots also!

Well either

A. The Sun is full of it

or

B. The rumor of the Doctor first meeting Amy Pond as a child seems to be quite valid.

The article can be read here. Make of it what you will.

I know people don't like to hear it, but The Sun is usually right in these sort of matters. I've been pretty convinced by the child-Amy thing anyway: the Doctor gets soaked by the TARDIS swimming pool when he meets her or something, doesn't he?

[Tybre]

I'll have to go back and find the post where Mharkin provided a whole slew of those rumours, but it was something along the lines of the TARDIS' interior is collapsing in on itself/disappearing (rooms being jettisoned like in Castrovalva maybe? Also, this part at least seems to hold some validity, since there was a Blue Peter contest to design a temporary TARDIS console which the Doctor throws together from household items) and ends up getting soaked in the pool as this is happening (all the rooms being sucked into the console room, maybe?) and comes scrambling out of the TARDIS and Oh, hello, it's child Amy Pond. I think it was Mharkin who first posted that anyway. I'll dig back and find it.

EDIT:

Found it. Desperately trying to resist urge to quote Waters of Mars.

Some possible spoilers about Series 5, Episode One of new Who.

Spoiler

1) It follows on directly from the previous episode (yes, I know RTD confirmed this). The first shot of the Doctor is Matt Smith climbing out of the TARDIS soaking wet (we see him regenerate in the last episode). The interior appears to have become some sort of pit with all the rooms falling into each other. The reason he's soaking wet is he's apparently fallen in the swimming pool...

2) A young Amy is terrified of something alien in her house coming through cracks in the walls. She thinks the Doctor has come to help her after the TARDIS lands in her garden due to it looking like a Police Box. Instead she helps him discover about his new self. He knows EXACTLY who he is and that he's regenerated with the usual "I am the Doctor!" type dialogue, so I'm not sure about all these rumours saying that the Tenth Doctor's memories are completely wiped...

3) There is regenerative trauma. The new Doctor has strange food cravings. There is similar dialogue to the Tenth Doctor's "New teeth. That's weird".

4) It doesn't feature the Sea Devils. The enemy is something completely new. The Doctor and Amy bond while defeating it.

5) The TARDIS is in danger of burning up due to cataclysmic damage from the finale. The Doctor thinks this will be fixed with a short trip into the future to stabilise the engines. But from Amy's point of view he doesn't return until around fifteen years later with a newly regenerated TARDIS...

6) It's set in Scotland.

Found an interview with Tennant.

[marktmurphy]

Anyone watching Dreamland? Animation's dreadful but the story's fun and it's better than the last animated Who.

[DamnCoffee]

I watched about 10 minutes of Dreamland: Part One.

The animation put me off, then I just turned it off.

[Tybre]

I watched episode 4 and that's it. Waiting for it to be done then I'll do it all in one fell swoop.

[DamnCoffee]

OMFG!



IS THIS FAN MADE!? It can't be! The end shot!?