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[sharpshooter]

Great to see The Admiral's review on the CBn main page: http://commanderbond...-his-roots.html

Indeed it is. Glad he liked it.

It's fantastic that Bond movies, like Bond himself, pretty much always deliver when it counts. When the stakes are at their highest, with his back up against the wall. GE, CR and now SF.

Edited by sharpshooter, 16 October 2012 - 11:44 PM.

[Matt_13]

Great to see The Admiral's review on the CBn main page: http://commanderbond...-his-roots.html

Indeed it is. Glad he liked it.

It's fantastic that Bond movies, like Bond himself, pretty much always deliver when it counts. When the stakes are at their highest, with his back up against the wall. GE, CR and now SF.

Indeed. The ability of the producers to come through in the clutch is remarkable.

[S K Y F A L L]

Has any of the reviews mentioned anything about a 'disclaimer' at the beginning of the film? I ask because I remember reading that Silva has a little bit of a WikiLeaks vibe to him.

[sharpshooter]

I see various articles out there in internet land are now asking is James Bond bisexual, due to the sequence with Silva where Bond notes he attended Eton and “what makes you think it’s my first time?” To that, I say they don’t know the Bond character too well. Bond can be flippant and say things sometimes without any emotional investment. But more to the point, as Bardem said in an interview, “it was more about putting the other person in a very uncomfortable situation where even James Bond doesn't know how to get out of.” So by going along with this situation, Bond doesn’t appear daunted or on the back foot. As Q noted in TWINE, never let them see you bleed.

[Shrublands]

Great to see The Admiral's review on the CBn main page: http://commanderbond...-his-roots.html

Indeed it is. Glad he liked it.

It's fantastic that Bond movies, like Bond himself, pretty much always deliver when it counts. When the stakes are at their highest, with his back up against the wall. GE, CR and now SF.

And the most important high stakes, back against the wall Bond film - TSWLM.

It's obviously going to sound a bit like I'm being churlish simply because it's a negative review, but I'm not convinced this reviewer has seen the movie. There is nothing there that hasn't been mentioned in any previous reviews.

I agree, I'm deeply suspicious that the 'reviewer' has just put this together without seeing it.

[QOS4EVER]

I beleive this review hasn't been posted

http://crave.cnet.co...ected-50009467/

[Luigi Ferrari]

http://www.expressan...review-skyfall/
"Skyfall isn’t just the best of Daniel Craig’s Bond adventures, it comfortably gatecrashes the top half dozen films of the 50-year-old series."

I find this bit particularly intriguing:
"The four-year break between films appears to have benefited the Bond family, giving them chance to craft an intelligent, thought-provoking story which exposes some of the agent’s raw family secrets first written by Fleming in the 1950s."

[thecasinoroyale]

I love the fact they remember what Bond orginally was with Fleming's creation. Casual people often forget he is Fleming's baby and not the studio creation, and so bringing back the source material to the public in such a powerful way always can help mould a brilliant story / character driven piece.

Thanks for the links.

[Vauxhall]

ITV News review
http://www.itv.com/n...-another-oscar/

[EyesOnly]

I see various articles out there in internet land are now asking is James Bond bisexual, due to the sequence with Silva where Bond notes he attended Eton and “what makes you think it’s my first time?” To that, I say they don’t know the Bond character too well. Bond can be flippant and say things sometimes without any emotional investment. But more to the point, as Bardem said in an interview, “it was more about putting the other person in a very uncomfortable situation where even James Bond doesn't know how to get out of.” So by going along with this situation, Bond doesn’t appear daunted or on the back foot. As Q noted in TWINE, never let them see you bleed.

Sharpshooter, are you from the States? There is no doubt in my mind that most people will question Bond's sexuality after a retort like that..at least in the U.S. anyway . Even I thought it was an odd thing to say because it really does read as if he's now bisexual or whatever (Perhaps it comes across better on film). Now, i'm a huge Bond fan, and I needed clarification in relation to Eton when that line of dialogue was released. That hardly elucidates a lack of understanding of the character though.

Edited by EyesOnly, 17 October 2012 - 04:48 PM.

[SecretAgentFan]

I thought Bond refers to LeChiffre handling his assets.

[x007AceOfSpades]

I love the fact they remember what Bond orginally was with Fleming's creation. Casual people often forget he is Fleming's baby and not the studio creation, and so bringing back the source material to the public in such a powerful way always can help mould a brilliant story / character driven piece.

Well said!

[S K Y F A L L]

I thought Bond refers to LeChiffre handling his assets.

I never thought of it like that, great point.

[JCRendle]

But the star for me is the wonderful Javier Bardem, and it could be that after 50 years the Bond franchise picks up it's first acting Oscar, thanks to his role as the Bond baddie.

Nice!

[Pussfeller]

I see various articles out there in internet land are now asking is James Bond bisexual, due to the sequence with Silva where Bond notes he attended Eton and “what makes you think it’s my first time?” To that, I say they don’t know the Bond character too well. Bond can be flippant and say things sometimes without any emotional investment. But more to the point, as Bardem said in an interview, “it was more about putting the other person in a very uncomfortable situation where even James Bond doesn't know how to get out of.” So by going along with this situation, Bond doesn’t appear daunted or on the back foot. As Q noted in TWINE, never let them see you bleed.

Sharpshooter, are you from the States? There is no doubt in my mind that most people will question Bond's sexuality after a retort like that..at least in the U.S. anyway . Even I thought it was an odd thing to say because it really does read as if he's now bisexual or whatever (Perhaps it comes across better on film). Now, i'm a huge Bond fan, and I needed clarification in relation to Eton when that line of dialogue was released. That hardly elucidates a lack of understanding of the character though.

If Bond isn't bisexual, how do you explain him hooking up with that Havelock dude?

[Guy Haines]

I see various articles out there in internet land are now asking is James Bond bisexual, due to the sequence with Silva where Bond notes he attended Eton and “what makes you think it’s my first time?” To that, I say they don’t know the Bond character too well. Bond can be flippant and say things sometimes without any emotional investment. But more to the point, as Bardem said in an interview, “it was more about putting the other person in a very uncomfortable situation where even James Bond doesn't know how to get out of.” So by going along with this situation, Bond doesn’t appear daunted or on the back foot. As Q noted in TWINE, never let them see you bleed.

Sharpshooter, are you from the States? There is no doubt in my mind that most people will question Bond's sexuality after a retort like that..at least in the U.S. anyway . Even I thought it was an odd thing to say because it really does read as if he's now bisexual or whatever (Perhaps it comes across better on film). Now, i'm a huge Bond fan, and I needed clarification in relation to Eton when that line of dialogue was released. That hardly elucidates a lack of understanding of the character though.

If Bond isn't bisexual, how do you explain him hooking up with that Havelock dude?

On the basis of what I've read (seen will have to wait until 26th October over here) I think Bond was refusing to rise to the bait, or, indeed, winding Silva up. Treating the villain with contempt, I think. If Bond is bi-sexual then it's something I must have missed inspite of repeated viewing of the films and reading the books.

[DamnCoffee]

I don't think Bond is bisexual. Granted he probably would've experimented in the past, nearly everyone has. Although, if the job comes down to it, he probably would seduce a man for information. It's his job. In this case though, I'm pretty sure he was just calling Silva's bluff. I see that as a passing reference to 'Casino Royale' if anything. The torture sequence.

[TheManwiththeWaltherPPK]

I see various articles out there in internet land are now asking is James Bond bisexual, due to the sequence with Silva where Bond notes he attended Eton and “what makes you think it’s my first time?” To that, I say they don’t know the Bond character too well. Bond can be flippant and say things sometimes without any emotional investment. But more to the point, as Bardem said in an interview, “it was more about putting the other person in a very uncomfortable situation where even James Bond doesn't know how to get out of.” So by going along with this situation, Bond doesn’t appear daunted or on the back foot. As Q noted in TWINE, never let them see you bleed.

Sharpshooter, are you from the States? There is no doubt in my mind that most people will question Bond's sexuality after a retort like that..at least in the U.S. anyway . Even I thought it was an odd thing to say because it really does read as if he's now bisexual or whatever (Perhaps it comes across better on film). Now, i'm a huge Bond fan, and I needed clarification in relation to Eton when that line of dialogue was released. That hardly elucidates a lack of understanding of the character though.

If Bond isn't bisexual, how do you explain him hooking up with that Havelock dude?

So confused... Are you suggesting that Carole Bouquet is or looks like a man? Or are you just getting her confused with the actress who played the unnamed bikini girl at Gonzalez's estate who the tabloids found out was a transsexual and with whom Bond never slept?

[Vauxhall]

Are you suggesting that Carole Bouquet is or looks like a man?

I imagine it's this option. That Pussfeller is a hard chap to please!

In other news, SKYFALL is fighting off the rogue negative review on Rotten Tomatoes and is back up to 97% Fresh.

[TheManwiththeWaltherPPK]

Are you suggesting that Carole Bouquet is or looks like a man?

I imagine it's this option. That Pussfeller is a hard chap to please!

In other news, SKYFALL is fighting off the rogue negative review on Rotten Tomatoes and is back up to 97% Fresh.

Awesome. Skyfall is still stuck at 82 on Metacritic. For some reason, they only have 6 reviews up, one of which is the Guardian's. If we removed the Guardian's 60, it would be at 89.

[MattofSteel]

I see various articles out there in internet land are now asking is James Bond bisexual, due to the sequence with Silva where Bond notes he attended Eton and “what makes you think it’s my first time?” To that, I say they don’t know the Bond character too well. Bond can be flippant and say things sometimes without any emotional investment. But more to the point, as Bardem said in an interview, “it was more about putting the other person in a very uncomfortable situation where even James Bond doesn't know how to get out of.” So by going along with this situation, Bond doesn’t appear daunted or on the back foot. As Q noted in TWINE, never let them see you bleed.

Sharpshooter, are you from the States? There is no doubt in my mind that most people will question Bond's sexuality after a retort like that..at least in the U.S. anyway . Even I thought it was an odd thing to say because it really does read as if he's now bisexual or whatever (Perhaps it comes across better on film). Now, i'm a huge Bond fan, and I needed clarification in relation to Eton when that line of dialogue was released. That hardly elucidates a lack of understanding of the character though.

If Bond isn't bisexual, how do you explain him hooking up with that Havelock dude?

So confused... Are you suggesting that Carole Bouquet is or looks like a man? Or are you just getting her confused with the actress who played the unnamed bikini girl at Gonzalez's estate who the tabloids found out was a transsexual and with whom Bond never slept?

This is ironically and freakishly coincidental, but I was watching FYEO (Ultimate Edition DVD) today for the first time in awhile, and actually noted during her first scene that Carole has a pronounced mustache-thing going on.

[sharpshooter]

In this case though, I'm pretty sure he was just calling Silva's bluff. I see that as a passing reference to 'Casino Royale' if anything. The torture sequence.

Agreed. And if Bond says "I'm not gay, stop touching my leg", Silva knows to keep doing it.

[double o ego]

Good Lord! All this Bond being gay/bisexual talk is utter nonsense. Fleming must be turning in his grave. Bond is 700% straight.

[Armand Fancypants]

Are you suggesting that Carole Bouquet is or looks like a man?

I imagine it's this option. That Pussfeller is a hard chap to please!

In other news, SKYFALL is fighting off the rogue negative review on Rotten Tomatoes and is back up to 97% Fresh.

Awesome. Skyfall is still stuck at 82 on Metacritic. For some reason, they only have 6 reviews up, one of which is the Guardian's. If we removed the Guardian's 60, it would be at 89.

Metacritic are a far better indicator of what real critics thing than RT. RT accepts basically anyone. Metacritic only catalogues major dudes.

[QOS4EVER]

Good Lord! All this Bond being gay/bisexual talk is utter nonsense. Fleming must be turning in his grave. Bond is 700% straight.

That is the very esscence of the character

[ggl]

Good Lord! All this Bond being gay/bisexual talk is utter nonsense. Fleming must be turning in his grave. Bond is 700% straight.

That is the very esscence of the character

Absolutely agree. Jokes with Bond´s sexuality reminds me of Austin Powers or OSS117 (Dujardin version). It´s the same kind of thing that is written about Holmes and Watson from time to time and it´s quite annoying?, disrespectful?, tiring...?

[thecasinoroyale]

I can't believe there's so much debate about this topic!

Bond isn't bi-sexual or gay, he's straight and loves the touch, smell and feel of a hot-blooded woman. Fleming wanted this man's man to be a hunter of women, and he is.

He's not afriad to wind up and play mind games with those who threaten his life as he shows no fear. As he toyed with Le Chiffre, that he had a little itch - so nothing he did was affecting him. The same, probably, to Silva. Throwing in an unexpected quip as to show nothing is affecting him and belittle Silva's mind game.

[Shrublands]

http://audioboo.fm/b...es-bond#t=8m18s

[Pussfeller]

Good Lord! All this Bond being gay/bisexual talk is utter nonsense. Fleming must be turning in his grave. Bond is 700% straight.

Of course Bond is straight. That's why he attracts these kind of questions. He's too straight not to be called gay. Bond himself reacts to Silva's trolling with cool indifference, because he's supernaturally secure in his masculinity. He doesn't let Silva ruffle him. Why don't Bond fans approach the issue in the same way? Imagine if Bond responded to Silva's flirtation by insisting, "I'm 700% straight!" Not exactly suave.

[double o ego]

My comment, pussfeller, was a response to the fans and people actually considering or even entertaining the idea that Bond is gay/bisexual or as another poster here submitted, "probably experimented in the past".