
Critical reactions to Skyfall
#481
Posted 21 October 2012 - 09:39 PM
#482
Posted 21 October 2012 - 11:23 PM
#483
Posted 22 October 2012 - 03:41 AM
#484
Posted 22 October 2012 - 08:00 AM
A fairly unequivocal review. Must say I am intrigued to see Deakins' work - it has been receiving very positive mention.
#485
Posted 23 October 2012 - 06:35 PM
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#487
Posted 23 October 2012 - 10:16 PM
#488
Posted 23 October 2012 - 10:18 PM
#489
Posted 23 October 2012 - 10:21 PM
I thought the same. Hope it's not his day job.Glad to see another very positive review, but the reviewer is a horrible writer. What an incoherent mess of a review lacking any depth or true insight!
As JimmyBond said, the criticisms of Silva for not living up to the Joker seem particularly bizarre.
#490
Posted 23 October 2012 - 11:24 PM
Wow - that was possibly the best Bond movie ever. Everyone in sensational form. Bardem, Dench, Craig and all were outstanding. l’m tingly
Edited by quantumofsolace, 23 October 2012 - 11:26 PM.
#491
Posted 23 October 2012 - 11:37 PM
" Skyfall. Good film. Not sure it's a good Bond film though."
Pish-posh!! I say...clearly in the minority..
#492
Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:10 AM
http://hollywood-els...seye_skyfal.php
#493
Posted 24 October 2012 - 01:58 AM
BBC Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson's reaction to Skyfall on Twitter...
" Skyfall. Good film. Not sure it's a good Bond film though."
Pish-posh!! I say...clearly in the minority..
As much as I enjoy Clarkson, I sometimes get the sense that he takes minority opinions just to be controversial and attract attention to himself. Give how universal Skyfall's praise has been, I've been waiting for the professional contrarians to come out. Seems right about on schedule... lol Then again, he could just be one who rates the quality of a Bond film based on a formulaic checklist... Gunbarrel at the start - check... Bond orders a martini, "shaken, not stirred", etc.. (God knows that this forum has proven that such people actually exist)
Edited by TheManwiththeWaltherPPK, 24 October 2012 - 02:02 AM.
#494
Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:17 AM
BBC Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson's reaction to Skyfall on Twitter...
" Skyfall. Good film. Not sure it's a good Bond film though."
Pish-posh!! I say...clearly in the minority..
As much as I enjoy Clarkson, I sometimes get the sense that he takes minority opinions just to be controversial and attract attention to himself. Give how universal Skyfall's praise has been, I've been waiting for the professional contrarians to come out. Seems right about on schedule... lol Then again, he could just be one who rates the quality of a Bond film based on a formulaic checklist... Gunbarrel at the start - check... Bond orders a martini, "shaken, not stirred", etc.. (God knows that this forum has proven that such people actually exist)
He probably rates the Bond films as he does Lambos: Machine Guns!!! Power!!! V12!!! Flames through nostrils!!!

And he is a fan.
#495
Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:19 AM
BBC Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson's reaction to Skyfall on Twitter...
" Skyfall. Good film. Not sure it's a good Bond film though."
Pish-posh!! I say...clearly in the minority..
As much as I enjoy Clarkson, I sometimes get the sense that he takes minority opinions just to be controversial and attract attention to himself. Give how universal Skyfall's praise has been, I've been waiting for the professional contrarians to come out. Seems right about on schedule... lol Then again, he could just be one who rates the quality of a Bond film based on a formulaic checklist... Gunbarrel at the start - check... Bond orders a martini, "shaken, not stirred", etc.. (God knows that this forum has proven that such people actually exist)
The Sun, 2005
There's intense speculation at the moment about who will play James Bond in the the next film?
Who cares? So long as he's not gay, disabled or American, it doesn't really matter. So far we have had a Scot, and Australian, an Englander, a Welshist and an Irishman and they've all been fine in my book. Although the Englanders safari suit was a bit dodgy in Octopussy.
No, all I'm bothered about is the story. We're told that the next time around it'll stick more closely to the Ian Fleming books because this meets with current Hollywood demands for spy thrillers to be chilling rather than full of gadgets and explosions.
We've been told that for only the second time there'll be no Q, no watches that turn into lasers, no explosive toothpaste and no invisible cars. This is silly.
Bond has lasted for 43 years because there's a tried and tested formula which fans like. And since I'm the biggest Bond fan of them all, I've written a plot for the next movie which is to be called Casino Royal.
It starts with Bond rescuing a millionaires daughter from a Burmese jail in the jungle. Lots of soldiers explode and on the way out of the wardens office Bond eats a grape. Then he has some light sex with the daughter and the music starts.
This must be written by John Barry not The Libertines or Franz Ferdinand. Its no good going to the big star of the moment because by time it gets released on a Bond Greatest Hits album, it'll be a joke. Lets not forget that for The Living Daylights they went to A-Ha. How much do they regret that now? Anyway, after the underwater title sequence, which should feature lots of naked girls and some guns, the movie starts.
Bond is having some sex when his shoe rings. He clicks open the heel with a whirring noise, and a satisfying "clunk" and its Moneypenny telling him to "come" round to the office.
He finishes having sex and drives his Aston Martin to Whitehall. and it has to be an Aston Martin, no matter how much General Motors are offering for him to be in a Vauxhall or a Chevrolet.
In M's office, Judi Dench tells him that a baddy is trying to take over the world and Bond shows off, telling various government ministers who are lolling around in big wingback chairs everything there is to know about the baddy's business interests.
He goes to see the baddy - played by Anthony Hopkins - who keeps tropical fish. Bond knows the Latin name for all of them, and then a very beautiful girl who cant act comes into the room. Sienna Miller would be ideal. She spurns Bond who is then thrown into a tank full of sharks. He kills them with a sonic shark killer hidden in his cufflinks and drives away very fast in his Aston Martin whilst the baddy's house explodes.
He is chased by some helicopters and snowmobiles, all of which blow up when they hit some trees and then he goes to see Felix Leiter, his CIA opposite who is really thick and doesn't know anything. There's been a worrying trend for Bond to be joined by another agent who's a girl. It happened in TND, with Michell Yeoh, and it happened again in DAD with Halle Berry.
This must stop. In Bond films girls are there to lounge around swimming pools and not to run up and down walls with gadgets of their own.
Another thing that must stop is giving us the sense that Bond is vulnerable. He bled profusely in LTK, was tortured in DAD and broke some ribs in TWINE. Thats stupid. Bond doesn't break and he never gets captured.
As any 007 fan knows, if there were to be a fight between Robocop, The Terminator and Superman, Bond would win and then on his way out of the door, have another grape. And afterwards some sex with Mrs Superman.
Anyway, Bond retrieves something the CIA have lost, M makes some snide remarks about American inefficiency and a Russian space rocket blows up.
Bond goes to Kazakhstan where he spends half an hour teasing Robbie Coltrane, abseiling off tall building, reprogramming the entire Russian defence computer network and making love.
Then he gets into a submarine and goes to the baddy's lair where there is a huge man who demonstrates his massive strength by eating an entire billiard table. Bond kills him and eats another grape.
Then a siren starts and Bond realises that the countdown has begun and unless he can get to the South Pole very quickly, a space laser will blast Tenerife to bits, causing a Tsunami that'll destroy Americas east coast. Luckily, it turns out, 007 is fully qualified to fly a new Eurofighter which he finds on the baddy's aircraft carrier.
So he takes off wearing a black tie and has dog fights with a vastly superior force of Migs. One of these blows up and the pilots testicles smash into Bonds cockpit canopy, 'He had some balls' says Bond who straightens his tie and lights the afterburners.
He lands in Antarctica and turns up at the cooling plant which causes a siren to start. A computerised voice starts to say 'You have three minutes to reach a safe distance' and Anthony Hopkins melts.
Bond finds the controls for the space laser which he hits with an ingot until, with the timer reading 007, they break. Then as the building blows up, he burrows through the ice, using a tool in his wallet and makes his escape in a frogman outfit.
On the sea bed he makes love to Sienna Miller without realising a US nuclear submarine is nearby and M is watching them through a periscope. She says something like 'sea men' and the credits roll.
#496
Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:21 AM

#497
Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:42 AM
#498
Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:47 AM
#499
Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:52 AM
The "other place". Couple of member who saw the film shared that opinion. Said it was extremely jarring, particularly the helicopters and the green/brown tongue flickering Komodos. Sure got me worried.Where did you see the complaints? I haven't seen it mentioned in any of the reviews I've seen so far.
#500
Posted 24 October 2012 - 09:52 AM
Some people seem to be complaining about fishy cgi (Komodo dragons and island helicopters). Can any of you guys who have seen the flick deny or confirm this. Frankly, it worries me...a lot. More than a gunbarrel. A lot more.
Well, one person who saw it last night in answer to your question about the Komodo dragons said that they did not look fake at all.
But one ore two over there are saying that.
#501
Posted 24 October 2012 - 09:59 AM
That´s true Shrubs. Although the scare of having two more guys stating they do look fake was big enough to make me ask in the (mother)boards.
Some people seem to be complaining about fishy cgi (Komodo dragons and island helicopters). Can any of you guys who have seen the flick deny or confirm this. Frankly, it worries me...a lot. More than a gunbarrel. A lot more.
Well, one person who saw it last night in answer to your question about the Komodo dragons said that they did not look fake at all.
I´ts my only fobia, you see, CGI. After that traumatic event in 2002.
#502
Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:00 AM
BBC Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson's reaction to Skyfall on Twitter...
" Skyfall. Good film. Not sure it's a good Bond film though."
It surely is not what someone who favors the 70´s Bond would call a good Bond film.
#503
Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:08 AM
#504
Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:24 AM
That´s true Shrubs. Although the scare of having two more guys stating they do look fake was big enough to make me ask in the (mother)boards.
Some people seem to be complaining about fishy cgi (Komodo dragons and island helicopters). Can any of you guys who have seen the flick deny or confirm this. Frankly, it worries me...a lot. More than a gunbarrel. A lot more.
Well, one person who saw it last night in answer to your question about the Komodo dragons said that they did not look fake at all.
I´ts my only fobia, you see, CGI. After that traumatic event in 2002.
Yes, it's concerning - 2002 and that CGI cinematic atrocity, but I really think we needn't get too worried. Some will always search for something to complain about.
The helicopters and Komodo dragons look fine and I didn't for a second sit there and even think about the possibility that they had been cgi'd.
Thanks!
#505
Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:31 AM
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The Ice in DAD was created from scratch, they had real Dragons to scan into the computers for Skyfall.
#506
Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:34 AM
A completely CGed scene is a lot hard to pull off and a lot easier to
up than a CGI animal and a helicopter. The 'copter going over the (CGIed) loch in the trailer looked fine to me.
The Ice in DAD was created from scratch, they had real Dragons to scan into the computers for Skyfall.
Exactly, here we are talking computer composites of real elements, not computer generated images.
#507
Posted 24 October 2012 - 11:07 AM
#508
Posted 24 October 2012 - 11:18 AM
I doubt the Komodo dragons are composites. They will have scanned the real one into a computer to create wireframe models and animated them.
Alright, I'll concede that one. But that is not computer generated like the wave and ice in DAD.
#509
Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:27 PM
Many thanks.The helicopters and Komodo dragons look fine and I didn't for a second sit there and even think about the possibility that they had been cgi'd.
#510
Posted 24 October 2012 - 01:24 PM
any questions, I'll be happy to answer.