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[marktmurphy]

I still rather like Another Way To Die. It's the only one to have a real rock feel to it.

[Dustin]

Me too, only I feel it's got definitely a rushed feeling about it, the parts don't really gel well. The intro is fine but the rap-style opening jarrs, White and Keyes don't exactly complement each other, their parts don't give enough contrast to really go for a duet feeling. And the part when everything dissolves into ohooohooohoho sticks out like a sore thumb. I know White can do better than this.

[marktmurphy]

Fantastic drumming though; and the guitar riff is really nice and dirty. And I rather like the trumpets too.

[dtuba]

Although not anywhere near Jack White's best work, I like AWTD too. Instrumentally it sounds like an inverted version of the JB theme to me. I just wish they hadn't tried to shoehorn Alicia Keys in there.

This is what a good Jack White theme song could potentially sound like, as an example:

Edited by dtuba, 15 August 2015 - 08:56 PM.

[stromberg]

Instrumentally it sounds like an inverted version of the JB theme to me.

Only recently noticed that, too. Now I know that I wasn't just "hearing things".

I just wish they hadn't tried to shoehorn Alicia Keys in there.

Same here.

[Blofeld's Cat]

It's a shame that somebody like White, who has an obvious love for music and a dedication for it, will likely be remembered by Bond fans only for Another Way To Die, a song that does neither White nor Keyes justice. Here's a brief snippet of White, the Edge and Jimmy Page jamming up on the hypnotic Kashmir riff:

That riff has always reminded me of the LALD score for some reason.

[sharpshooter]

I still rather like Another Way To Die. It's the only one to have a real rock feel to it.

I like the melody. My issue is with the singing component. 

[The Shark]

I like the main riff. Otherwise there isn't much of a melody to go on.

 

The drums are nice, but I prefer Leo Taylor's job on Skyfall. I'm a sucker for that punchy John Bonham sound.

[Orion]

I found Another Way To Die to be a grower. In 2008 I thought it was "meh" at best but now it's actually one of my favourite themes, but I think its always going to pale by having You Know My Name (my favourite) before it and Skyfall (a generally popular theme) after it.

[SecretAgentFan]

The main riff I do like.  And the production of the song does work for me, too.

 

But I really cannot understand why you hire someone like Alicia Keys who has a fantastic voice, and let White duet with her, with his very thin voice trying to sing in the same register, resulting in something that sounds like two kids trying to sing louder than the other.

[Orion]

The main riff I do like.  And the production of the song does work for me, too.

 

But I really cannot understand why you hire someone like Alicia Keys who has a fantastic voice, and let White duet with her, with his very thin voice trying to sing in the same register, resulting in something that sounds like two kids trying to sing louder than the other.

It is an odd combonation to say the least. I think it'd be a better received song if just one of them had sang it.

[tdalton]

Having just one of them sing it would have made it better, but only marginally.  The only thing that it has going for it is the main riff.  The rest of it: the vocals, the lyrics (which are nonsensical even by Bond song standards) is awful. 

[marktmurphy]

Having just one of them sing it would have made it better, but only marginally. The only thing that it has going for it is the main riff. The rest of it: the vocals, the lyrics (which are nonsensical even by Bond song standards) is awful.

Those are only two things
I like the melody, the rhythm of the trumpet punctuating the chorus and the whole production of the song generally. It's got great production in fact.

[Emrayfo]

To me Another Way to Die would better suit a Bond rip-off/homage type film like a Derek Flint/OSS 117/Modesty Blaise/Johnny English/True Lies/XXX kind of thing. It just tries too hard to be 'Bondian' in the most stereotypical, caricatured and least 'knowing' of ways. I am a fan of much of Jack White's oeuvre but this one seems like a Bond song by someone who isn't that well versed in Bond apart from the most caricatured Bond elements of general pop culture and maybe a few Friday night movies. It just screams too hard "look we've made a Bond song"! 

Edited by Emrayfo, 17 August 2015 - 05:22 AM.

[tdalton]

It just screams too hard "look we've made a Bond song"!

To be fair, though, I think this statement could apply to many of EON's efforts in the past couple of decades.

[Emrayfo]

 

It just screams too hard "look we've made a Bond song"!

To be fair, though, I think this statement could apply to many of EON's efforts in the past couple of decades.

 

 

No doubt. I think much of the Brosnan era suffered from this affliction, certainly. The Moore era was reasonably (and surprisingly) lucky with most of its songs, I think; and both the Casino and Skyfall tunes under Craig are great additions to the Bond song canon in my view. If we get another song as well suited to its film this time around then 3 winners outta 4 ain't bad. If we don't it becomes a dead heat until his fifth could break it either way.

[thecasinoroyale]

Probably a little too close to Adele and 'Skyfall' and a little cliché (I'll forgive that after 50+ years of songs), but the new single from a-ha has that current Bond-style to it in places.

[Guy Haines]

By all accounts I've read, the a-ha Bond experience for TLD wasn't a good one on a personal level - John Barry and the group simply did not hit it off (By contrast with Duran Duran where, even if the group was in some turmoil at the time, the individual members seemed to get on fine with John Barry, with John Taylor in particular, who according to Barry "knew more about what I'd written than I did!")

Somehow I wonder if a-ha would want to revisit Bond - according to the book "John Barry - The Man With The Midas Touch" they didn't even go to the TLD premiere, which left Barry unimpressed.

But who knows - the passage of time, and a different musical collaborator? Perhaps they might want to give it another go? But somehow I have my doubts.

[Bondage007]

It's a shame about the "collaboration" of the TLD theme song, because the score of TLD is excellent, with its integration of both TLD and Where has Everybody Gone.

 

And re:above comments, AWTD has horrid lyrics but the rest of it is not so bad....but I can't forgive the lyrics.

[Dustin]

Currently I think it's time to acknowledge that for some things their time has simply passed. A-ha, Duran-Duran - frankly, I don't know if a return to Bond would be a good thing for them. They were right at the pulse of things in their time, that's why their efforts are remembered so fondly by us, who have been present when they did their Bond songs. But do they still give off that vibe that tells you this is going to be a major event? It's the same with Blur or the Gallagher brothers, if they were announced to do SPECTRE's title song reactions - outside the fan community - would be 'so what?' I would have my doubts even if Allison Goldfrapp were the lucky one, I'd just feel it came 15 years too late.

That's why I don't really feel fit to even guess who's going to be next in line, I'm far too far removed from the current fashion to come up with anything but no-brainers like Del Rey.

[Guy Haines]

It will be someone reasonably contemporary. I think the moment to bring someone back to do an homage theme tune passed with Skyfall - which featured a contemporary act but a retro sounding song.

What we'll get with SPECTRE will I hope be suitably Bondian but contemporary. Who will end up doing it, in spite of bets and red top speculation, is anybody's guess.

[marktmurphy]

To me Another Way to Die would better suit a Bond rip-off/homage type film like a Derek Flint/OSS 117/Modesty Blaise/Johnny English/True Lies/XXX kind of thing. It just tries too hard to be 'Bondian' in the most stereotypical, caricatured and least 'knowing' of ways. I am a fan of much of Jack White's oeuvre but this one seems like a Bond song by someone who isn't that well versed in Bond apart from the most caricatured Bond elements of general pop culture and maybe a few Friday night movies. It just screams too hard "look we've made a Bond song"! 

 

Have you heard 'Surrender'?

[marktmurphy]

Currently I think it's time to acknowledge that for some things their time has simply passed. A-ha, Duran-Duran - frankly, I don't know if a return to Bond would be a good thing for them. They were right at the pulse of things in their time, that's why their efforts are remembered so fondly by us, who have been present when they did their Bond songs. But do they still give off that vibe that tells you this is going to be a major event? It's the same with Blur or the Gallagher brothers, if they were announced to do SPECTRE's title song reactions - outside the fan community - would be 'so what?' I would have my doubts even if Allison Goldfrapp were the lucky one, I'd just feel it came 15 years too late.

That's why I don't really feel fit to even guess who's going to be next in line, I'm far too far removed from the current fashion to come up with anything but no-brainers like Del Rey.

 

To be fair, Blur have only just released a tremendously well-reviewed and successful album. Noel Gallagher is still doing well, if perhaps not quite on the same level of being well-regarded, but he'd still be a less weird choice than Chris Cornell (I still don't get that one). Goldfrapp aren't in the spotlight as much as they used to be, that's true (in fact I saw their last gig at the Albert Hall and they do seem to be taking a break from live performances for a while), but even they would be a decent choice.

But after Adele doing so well, I'd also be surprised if they didn't go with someone a bit more current in the same vein.

[Dustin]

Sure, they are still around, Albarn and the Gallaghers and the others live their music. They will probably continue with their act well past retirement age, simply because that's what they do and what their fans expect. But they are not as relevant today as they used to be. It's not so much that people wouldn't like to see them comeback with a big success, it's more that nobody really waits for it. It's like a new AC/DC album, you just buy it, listen three seconds and add it to the four and a half metres of other AC/DC albums on your shelf, relieved that it's still AC/DC and the world's still turning. You don't exactly expect a revelation from that direction, even if it would be nice to be surprised.

[Emrayfo]

 

To me Another Way to Die would better suit a Bond rip-off/homage type film like a Derek Flint/OSS 117/Modesty Blaise/Johnny English/True Lies/XXX kind of thing. It just tries too hard to be 'Bondian' in the most stereotypical, caricatured and least 'knowing' of ways. I am a fan of much of Jack White's oeuvre but this one seems like a Bond song by someone who isn't that well versed in Bond apart from the most caricatured Bond elements of general pop culture and maybe a few Friday night movies. It just screams too hard "look we've made a Bond song"! 

 

Have you heard 'Surrender'?

 

 

You mean the K.D Lang song? Yes I have. Good song. A pity it was booted to the end credits of TND in favour of the much weaker song by Sheryl Crowe. Did you raise it in regard to my statement on the general malaise of songs in the Brosnan era? I was referring to the contributions of Sheryl Crowe, Madonna, Tina Turner. Garbage's contribution was very good in my view and K.D. Land should have got the front credits gig for TND.

[DaveBond21]

Everyone knows this should have been the theme tune for Quantum of Solace:-

 

[Toxteth_OGrady]

Anyone know how accurate this website usually is?

 

http://jamesbonding....diohead-80.html

[tdalton]

Anyone know how accurate this website usually is?

 

http://jamesbonding....diohead-80.html

 

Can't say that I've ever heard of the site before.  Until EON and/or Sony officially announces it, I'd take anything with a huge grain of salt.  

[SecretAgentFan]

Those "news are from August 9th - but no news outlet, not even the flimsiest gossip websites, have picked it up.

 

Seems like a fanboy site that is not to be taken seriously.  And frankly, the "Radiohead"-rumor has been thrown around many fansites before - without ever getting real traction.

 

It still could be true - but only because a broken clock is right twice a day, not because this particular site had the right source.

[Shrublands]

Personally, I have a feeling that the Radiohead rumour is true.