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[Iceskater101]

I am not a huge wolverine fan so I am probably going to skip seeing this in theaters..

[S K Y F A L L]

I'm still excited to see it. 

[thecasinoroyale]

Me too Iceskater. I will check it out on DVD as a continuation of the X-Men films to see what's it's all about. If anything, at least it's better than 'Origins'.

[x007AceOfSpades]

I'm not missing it, It's out on my birthday, nothing will stop me from seeing it.

[Iceskater101]

Me too Iceskater. I will check it out on DVD as a continuation of the X-Men films to see what's it's all about. If anything, at least it's better than 'Origins'.

 

I never have seen Origins but I heard it wasn't very good.

[thecasinoroyale]

Urgh - don't waste your time. It's a pointless cash-in on the Wolverine character and is just loud and messy.

 

And still no blood on his claws when he fights people.

[x007AceOfSpades]

Urgh - don't waste your time. It's a pointless cash-in on the Wolverine character and is just loud and messy.

 

And still no blood on his claws when he fights people.

 

The fact you call it a "pointless cash-in" is a bit irritating. It was never intended to be a "pointless cash-in". More or less intended to tell the origins of the character, but it just went in an incredibly wrong direction. I could certainly tell you though, Hugh Jackman is bent on giving the fans what they want with The Wolverine after realizing what went wrong with Origins.

 

As for "loud and messy" I can name a superhero film that recently came out that was loud and messy, and X-Men Origins: Wolverine was still much better than it, and that's saying much.

[thecasinoroyale]

I just think rather than focus on Wolvie they could have done something better, rather than just an all out action fest with a confusing plot and not much else. Hugh Jackman is better than that, and while I read 'The Wolverine' is better than 'Origins', it still lacks what it could be.

 

 

 

....what other film came out that was "loud and messy" that 'Origins' was better than?

 

OH....'Iron Man 3', of course, sorry! You may be right about that!

[x007AceOfSpades]

What was confusing about it? I'm not defending it as I didn't like it either, but it's not like it was intricate or confusing. It was pretty straightforward and easily fit in with the rest of the films. Saying The Wolverine lacks is a bit much, considering you haven't seen it and I'm also assuming you haven't even read the Japan Story Arc of the character.

 

Besides Iron Man 3, I was referring to Man Of Steel, with the final act being loud noises, uninspiring score by Zimmer, and action scenes that dreadfully went nowhere and were redundant, hence: "loud and messy", the messy comes from the overall story development of the film.

[SecretAgentFan]

I like WOLVERINE, the character, and I think Hugh Jackman is terrific.

 

But the Origins movie, IMO, made the mistake of explaining his backstory (which already was clear enough) and offering too many other characters, instead of focusing on him.

 

The new film seems to remedy that.

[tdalton]

Apparently the Superman/Batman movie is happening, and is scheduled for Summer 2015
 
Comic-Con: Man of Steel sequel announced; Batman to appear

 

The logo:

 

 

OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM WARNER BROS.

On the heels of the worldwide success of "Man of Steel," director Zack Snyder is bringing together the two greatest Super Heroes of all time—Batman and Superman—for the first time on the big screen. The announcement was made today by Greg Silverman, President, Creative Development and Worldwide Production, and Sue Kroll, President, Worldwide Marketing and International Distribution, Warner Bros. Pictures.

"Whilst our ‘Dark Knight' trilogy is complete, we have every confidence that Zack's fresh interpretation will take the character in a new and exciting direction. His vision for Superman opened the door to a whole new universe and we can't wait to see what Zack does with these characters.".....

The rest of the statement can be found in the link above.

[x007AceOfSpades]

The Superman/Batman film idea was cool like 10-15 years ago. I suppose it's the only the way WB and DC have hopes of launching Justice League. Didn't like Man Of Steel, Don't care for Nolan and Co and especially detested Goyer's script for Man Of Steel. I don't know, I'll have to be seriously wow'd by a trailer or something to even have an interest in it.

 

I do love the logo though with the new Superman shield with the Batman emblem reminding me of the 1940's emblem.

[seawolfnyy]

The Superman/Batman film idea was cool like 10-15 years ago. I suppose it's the only the way WB and DC have hopes of launching Justice League. Didn't like Man Of Steel, Don't care for Nolan and Co and especially detested Goyer's script for Man Of Steel. I don't know, I'll have to be seriously wow'd by a trailer or something to even have an interest in it.

 

I do love the logo though with the new Superman shield with the Batman emblem reminding me of the 1940's emblem.

Agreed on pretty much everything. The new, grittier films do not excite me much for a Superman/Batman crossover. Still haven't seen MoS and probably won't for sometime. TDKR killed just about everything good with the Nolan Bat films (except for Anne Hathaway as Catwoman, *whistles*).

 

Unrelated, The Avengers 2 has been titled Avengers: Age of Ultron.

[x007AceOfSpades]

 

The Superman/Batman film idea was cool like 10-15 years ago. I suppose it's the only the way WB and DC have hopes of launching Justice League. Didn't like Man Of Steel, Don't care for Nolan and Co and especially detested Goyer's script for Man Of Steel. I don't know, I'll have to be seriously wow'd by a trailer or something to even have an interest in it.

 

I do love the logo though with the new Superman shield with the Batman emblem reminding me of the 1940's emblem.

Agreed on pretty much everything. The new, grittier films do not excite me much for a Superman/Batman crossover. Still haven't seen MoS and probably won't for sometime. TDKR killed just about everything good with the Nolan Bat films (except for Anne Hathaway as Catwoman, *whistles*).

 

Unrelated, The Avengers 2 has been titled Avengers: Age of Ultron.

 

 

Superman isn't supposed to be gritty or dark, Superman is about Triumph, hope, and prosperity. He's the light, not the dark and The general direction I'm not too happy about. It may have made lots of money, though it doesn't mean it's a good film, It simply "sucked" for a lack of better words. Don't bother with Man Of Steel, it isn't worth the time or money. The reason for Batman in Man Of Steel 2 could be for things to get propelled even further for Justice League and to help boost the character of Superman, since the film certainly didn't sit well with critics and people who realized it was just a disappointing, and terrible film. Whether it's a Man Of Steel sequel, or a one-off World's Finest, who knows.

[S K Y F A L L]

THE WOLVERINE and X-MEN

We'll not every film is for everybody and lets not forget that these films for the most part are intended for children. For me I can enjoy the XMen films fully because I can laugh at the lame, corny and poor parts. The first time I seen Origins I thought it was pretty decent. After seeing it again though it was easier to see where it all started to fall apart. I think if they had handled weapon X and the climax a little better it could have been really good but at the same time I wonder how else could they have told the story they were trying to telling. One thing that always seems to disappoint me though is the action sometimes really looks like a typical wire stunt even in The Wolverine trailer.  

 

SUPERMAN and BAT-MAN

Surprising news, really who saw this coming? Wonder who'll play the new Bat-Man. I never really saw this team up or the Justice League for that matter all that enticing. So will it be Sup vs Batman or Sup and Batman vs a villain or perhaps both...  

 

 

Unrelated, The Avengers 2 has been titled Avengers: Age of Ultron.

 

 

I'm just speculating but Van Diesel is suppose to reveal who is going to be playing at the end of the month, perhaps he'll play Ultron. 

 

 

Superman isn't supposed to be gritty or dark, Superman is about Triumph, hope, and prosperity. He's the light, not the dark 

 

Well put. That is how I've always imagined Superman. I think John Williams Superman theme also really captured and embodied that.  

[007jamesbond]

Batman/Superman movie would be interesting.........it seem better than doing a JL movie? Who will be the villain? 

 

The Avenger vs Batman/Superman Summer 2015? +Bond 24 +Star War 7 

[007jamesbond]

THE WOLVERINE and X-MEN

We'll not every film is for everybody and lets not forget that these films for the most part are intended for children. For me I can enjoy the XMen films fully because I can laugh at the lame, corny and poor parts. The first time I seen Origins I thought it was pretty decent. After seeing it again though it was easier to see where it all started to fall apart. I think if they had handled weapon X and the climax a little better it could have been really good but at the same time I wonder how else could they have told the story they were trying to telling. One thing that always seems to disappoint me though is the action sometimes really looks like a typical wire stunt even in The Wolverine trailer.  

 

SUPERMAN and BAT-MAN

Surprising news, really who saw this coming? Wonder who'll play the new Bat-Man. I never really saw this team up or the Justice League for that matter all that enticing. So will it be Sup vs Batman or Sup and Batman vs a villain or perhaps both...  

 

I think Superman vs Batman in the start for some reason......then they team up to fight a threat against the planet. 

 

I wonder if it will live up to the animation version of Superman/Batman movie!........

[SecretAgentFan]

I think they should concentrate on getting a MOS sequel first and also sort out how Nolan´s Batman could either go on or be re-booted tastefully before JUSTICE LEAGUE could be tackled.

 

Maybe they should try to get Superman and Batman together in one film before even attempting to get other DC heroes into a JL film.

 

I knew it... 

[thecasinoroyale]

Fantastic news, and I for one just can't wait to see Batman and Superman together - both recent reboots have been globally successful and the combination of this should be a treat for film and comic fans!

 

As with the other news, it's certainly exciting to see the roots of Ant-Man being laid in 'Avengers 2', and all the new 'Days Of Future Past' news.

 

2015 is going to break some records I think for cinema takings!!

[PPK_19]

As cool as the idea of Batman and Superman together in the same film is, I wanted a full Man of Steel Trilogy. Instead now in Man of Steel 2 we're going to have Bruce Wayne gatecrashing Superman's party. 

 

I really don't know how this is going to work from a creative standpoint. Hopefully Batman will only have a cameo role. 

[x007AceOfSpades]

Hopefully Batman will only have a cameo role. 

 

Then why the hell would Snyder announce Batman as a lead in the next film if it was to only be a cameo?

[PPK_19]

 

Hopefully Batman will only have a cameo role. 

 

Then why the hell would Snyder announce Batman as a lead in the next film if it was to only be a cameo?

 

 

I don't know. But i'm guessing you didn't like Man of Steel or Nolan's Batman trilogy? 

[S K Y F A L L]

At least this mean we wont have to sit through another origin story right? I mean Superman and Batman will probably already be established somewhat in this film. They could even not show Bruce Wayne if they wanted to and just have BatMan.

[SecretAgentFan]

They will join each other fighting a common enemy.  

 

In a way, this is WB solving the problem of not having established enough characters yet for a JUSTICE LEAGUE film - and re-establishing BATMAN together with their freshly-established new SUPERMAN.

 

Win-win, as far as the strategy goes.

 

And after this SUPERMAN/BATMAN-film they can easily do a MAN OF STEEL 2 - just like THOR was established in his first film, then moving to the AVENGERS and now getting his own sequel.

[FlemingBond]

Although Superman and Batman have been in the DC universe together for over 70 years, it's kind of hard to see them together. Like if Superman stopped over in Gotham City couldn't he clean up crime in about a week?

I don't know, it will be interesting how they explain that Batman in this movie isn't the same Batman from the recent trilogy, or however you want to look at it.

[SecretAgentFan]

Well, Superman can´t be everywhere at the same time.  And when he catches one bad guy, another one is already committing a crime behind his back.  So, one week in Gotham would mean Metropolis going down the drain again...

 

Since Nolan is still attached as executive producer I could imagine that his ending to TDKR alludes to another guy taking over from Bale-Batman - so, no problem.

[x007AceOfSpades]

 

 

Hopefully Batman will only have a cameo role. 

 

Then why the hell would Snyder announce Batman as a lead in the next film if it was to only be a cameo?

 

 

I don't know. But i'm guessing you didn't like Man of Steel or Nolan's Batman trilogy? 

 

 

It wouldn't make sense for the character to be a cameo, when he's been confirmed for a leading role, alongside Superman. I personally was disappointed with how luckluster Man Of Steel turned out (even walking in with low expectations) and seeing it be the opposite of the character and what it means. It was just a poorly made film with poor writing, poor story development, and poor action sequences.

 

Nolan's first two films in TDK-Trilogy are fantastic, but it ends on a poor, sour note.

[Iceskater101]

I think this will be really interesting, I mean this could either be really bad/mediocre or really good.I am still wondering who they are going to cast as Batman, I mean JGL is good for Robin but I don't really pick him to be Batman. I also love the logo, I think it's cool the way it's designed and it combines both of these incredible superheroes.

[tdalton]

They will join each other fighting a common enemy.

It sounds like they'll spend at least part of the film as adversaries, which is what I'm looking forward to the most regarding this project. Aside from that, this seems like a pointless cash-in, and I'm not sure Snyder is the right director to relaunch Batman. I'm sure they'll end up on good terms by the end, though.

In a way, this is WB solving the problem of not having established enough characters yet for a JUSTICE LEAGUE film - and re-establishing BATMAN together with their freshly-established new SUPERMAN.

If they want to do a JL film, then they should just go ahead and do it rather than building to it. Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman are iconic enough that they don't need an origin film for audiences to know who they are. Those three should headline JL with the others in more supporting roles so we don't have to have a slew of origin films to set this thing up.

On the other hand, I think they should just not do JL and instead focus on the individual characters.

[Professor Pi]

Sounds like DC just had to throw something out there since all the momentum is heading back to Marvel after this ComiCon.