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[Joey Bond]

If we're gonna have a final physical confrontation between Craig's Bond and the main villain, then we need someone who can match Craig physically. One of the weaknesses of Dominic Greene was that he just wasn't physically strong enough and you're just waiting for Bond to disarm his axe and beat the crap out of him. Le Chiffre was different since they didn't have a climactic physical confrontation. In that case I would agree with suggestions like Michael Fassbender, Guy Pearce or Clive Owen, guys who look like they could have been Bond himself.

[S K Y F A L L]

Craig still hasn't had an older villain yet unless you count Mr. White, I suspect Bond 24 will have someone in the Emilio Largo, Stromberg or Elliot Carver mold. Not that I've seen SF yet but of the sounds of it, it will be hard to top Javier Bardem.

[Nick Bone]

It´s gonna be a hard task to even try to compete with Raoul Silva, in my opinion he´s a perfect modern day Bond villain. I´d like to see an older nemesis who´s controlling things behind the curtains and his henchman/woman does the dirty job and is physically equal to Bond.

I believe the Drax/Stromberg days are over and the villain must fit into the real world. At least in the Craig tenure this will be the main philosophy, to tie the story and plot to the real world. Maybe they hire Superman after Craig and then we´ll see some space action with poor double entendres? HOPE NOT!

Bring back Blofeld with a good backstory and realism. I believe this was mentioned here before but they should hire that "Der Untergang"-guy to play him (he played Goebbels in Der Untergang). Can´t bloody remember his name!

I´m also dreaming of an updated version of Red Grant.

[Pussfeller]

Craig still hasn't had an older villain yet unless you count Mr. White, I suspect Bond 24 will have someone in the Emilio Largo, Stromberg or Elliot Carver mold. Not that I've seen SF yet but of the sounds of it, it will be hard to top Javier Bardem.

It's been a long time since we had a seasoned, fatherly villain. Ideally, I'd like him to be in his late fifties to mid-sixties, with a shrewd and malignant scheme, but no angsty emotional involvement. He'd follow in the footsteps of Goldfinger or Sanchez, and his hatred of Bond would be rooted only in Bond's role as the destroyer of his life's work. The producers seem to have forgotten what a powerful motive that can be. No elaborate telenovela backstory is required. It's enough that the villain has suffered an intolerable professional screwjob at Bond's hands. That accounts for the hatred and the danger.

[SecretAgentFan]

I´m all for it!

[thecasinoroyale]

Craig has seemingly battled nefarious business men in his previous 2 - 'Skyfall' has only seen him against a true Bond-style villain in all his glory. Not saying 'CR' and 'QOS' were all wasted, just quite similar in motiff and appearence (bar the excellent Le Chiffre scar).

Le Chiffre, Mr White, Dominic Greene...all seemed comfortable in a suit, nothing more. At least Silva wanted to wear outrageous clothes and disguises - so someone that incorporates the menace and style of former villains as well as the memorable appearence will suit me, for Craig to have another villain from the pipeline of Bond villains churning them out for 50 years.

[seawolfnyy]

Craig still hasn't had an older villain yet unless you count Mr. White, I suspect Bond 24 will have someone in the Emilio Largo, Stromberg or Elliot Carver mold. Not that I've seen SF yet but of the sounds of it, it will be hard to top Javier Bardem.

It's been a long time since we had a seasoned, fatherly villain. Ideally, I'd like him to be in his late fifties to mid-sixties, with a shrewd and malignant scheme, but no angsty emotional involvement. He'd follow in the footsteps of Goldfinger or Sanchez, and his hatred of Bond would be rooted only in Bond's role as the destroyer of his life's work. The producers seem to have forgotten what a powerful motive that can be. No elaborate telenovela backstory is required. It's enough that the villain has suffered an intolerable professional screwjob at Bond's hands. That accounts for the hatred and the danger.

That was essentially what we got with Le Chiffre. The only thing that made Le Chiffre want to kill Bond was that Bond kept showing up to wreck his business deals i.e. bombing the plane, winning at poker. No Le Chiffre didn't have ideas of megalomania, but Bond screwing him over was enough. Also, as the per the novel, there is no real backstory for Le Chiffre.

[AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän]

Bring back Blofeld with a good backstory and realism. I believe this was mentioned here before but they should hire that "Der Untergang"-guy to play him (he played Goebbels in Der Untergang). Can´t bloody remember his name!

His name is Ulrich Matthes, and to my knowledge he was offered the role of Le Chiffre but couldn't do it due prior obligations. He'd be a tremendous Blofeld.

[Pussfeller]

Craig still hasn't had an older villain yet unless you count Mr. White, I suspect Bond 24 will have someone in the Emilio Largo, Stromberg or Elliot Carver mold. Not that I've seen SF yet but of the sounds of it, it will be hard to top Javier Bardem.

It's been a long time since we had a seasoned, fatherly villain. Ideally, I'd like him to be in his late fifties to mid-sixties, with a shrewd and malignant scheme, but no angsty emotional involvement. He'd follow in the footsteps of Goldfinger or Sanchez, and his hatred of Bond would be rooted only in Bond's role as the destroyer of his life's work. The producers seem to have forgotten what a powerful motive that can be. No elaborate telenovela backstory is required. It's enough that the villain has suffered an intolerable professional screwjob at Bond's hands. That accounts for the hatred and the danger.

That was essentially what we got with Le Chiffre. The only thing that made Le Chiffre want to kill Bond was that Bond kept showing up to wreck his business deals i.e. bombing the plane, winning at poker. No Le Chiffre didn't have ideas of megalomania, but Bond screwing him over was enough. Also, as the per the novel, there is no real backstory for Le Chiffre.

Le Chiffre was fundamentally a strong character, but I believe that there were two major problems with the way his character was realized and employed in the film: (1) As talented and as inherently creepy as Mads Mikkelsen is, Le Chiffre should have been played by an older, less physically attractive actor; (2) he was eliminated way too early, and the remainder of the film limped on aimlessly, with no sense of a clear conflict.

Instead of Mads, I would have cast somebody like Nicolas Bro, a fellow Dane. This guy would be much more plausible as a terrorism-financing poker-playing numbers wiz. I mean, he looks like a poker player.



Secondly, I would have made Le Chiffre the only major villain, and instead of being killed by Mr White, he'd be killed by the Ugandan clients he screwed over. There's absolutely no need for Mr White or his big shadowy organization to have any role in CR. A much simpler plot is possible. Just have the Ugandans kill Le Chiffre. Of course they leave Bond alive because they don't want unnecessary blowback from MI6. They even call him an ambulance to let him know there's no hard feelings. But when the paramedics arrive to collect Bond, they also discover Vesper hacked to bits with a machete. Bond is tactlessly wheeled past the remains, and realizes Vesper must have been working with Le Chiffre. End of movie.

[thasceles]

Definitely Viggo Mortenson.

Otherwise Sigourney Weaver, Bill Murray, Terence Stamp, Tom Hiddleston, Robert Downey Jnr, Benedict Cumberbatch, Mark Strong, Christopher Eccleston, Juliette Binoche.

Rather regret the fact that we never got Boris Karloff, Peter Cushing or Vincent Price facing off against Bond.

[seawolfnyy]

I think the way they handled Le Chiffre in CR was very close to the novel. In the novel, he was an agent of SMERSH who is killed by his own people when they discover he was embezzling company funds. In the film, Mr. White kills Le Chiffre (prior to the final act like in the novel) for the same reason: losing the money. I know Mr. White framed it as they couldn't trust him, but it was because he lost and couldn't regain the money. Personally, I think Mads Mikkelson did a fantastic job as Le Chiffre. Just my opinion though.

[dgibby]

I think Tom Hardy as a brains & brawn villain would be good - possibly a genetically modified experiment similar to Max Zorin story from AVTAK but both intelligent AND strong. I thought he (Tom) was excellent in the latest Batman film and his natural physique etc would give Craig a good fight challenge

I think David Bowie would make an excellent villian!

I think I read somewhere that he was originally the choice for Max Zorin in AVTAK. He would be an excellent bad guy!

[Pussfeller]

I think Tom Hardy as a brains & brawn villain would be good - possibly a genetically modified experiment similar to Max Zorin story from AVTAK but both intelligent AND strong.

Tom Hardy would be very believable as a genetic experiment. That may sound like a put-down, but I mean it in a positive sense. He has a moist, unsavory physicality that would admirably suit a lab-grown superhuman mutant. But I'm afraid it would be thematically too similar to DAD, which turned the concept of a genetically modified supervillain into something silly.

[QuantumOfRoyale]

David Tennant expressed interest in playing a Bond villain. As a massive Doctor Who fan, I would adore that.

[Iceskater101]

I think Benedict Cumberbatch, Tom Hardy, Viggo Mortensen are all good choices for Bond villains.

[JohnnyWalker]

Danny Huston



He has a unique accent, an imposing presence (see The Proposition), and could definitely convince as a genius. He is a sadly over looked talent.

[x007AceOfSpades]

Been thinking of Stelan Skarsgard lately as a Bond Villain.

[Iceskater101]

Yeah he was very evil in the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. I also think Bryan Cranston could make a good Bond villain as well.

[RMc2]

Viggo Mortensen would make a perfect nemesis for Craig in particular.

Their a little similar in there build and look and very much so in the intensity of their performances - the way they bottle up the tension, seeming ready to explode at any moment (think EASTERN PROMISES and A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE).

[It could be] be the return of QUANTUM, with their Number One (its Blofield figurehead) assigning their number one assassin Mortensen to finally eliminate Bond (a' la FRWL with a little MWTGG thrown in).

The symmetry would be nice in that QoS was Bond's trail of revenge against QUANTUM, whereas this would be QUANTUM's trail of revenge against Bond.

THAT, my friend, is an Awesome Idea!

Edited by RMc, 03 December 2012 - 12:05 AM.

[AgentBentley]

How about Liam Neeson, as a counterweight to his Albanian-bashing role in the Taken movies? Instead of bashing Marko and his chums from Tropoje, he could have a go at Bond.

[rubixcub]

Ulrich Matthes


He was considered for CR but had opt out because he was already contractually bound to a stage production in Berlin he would have had to pause for half a year. Impressive character actor with a number of haunting roles already in his career. You may have seen him as Goebbels in DOWNFALL. Another more widely seen production with him was THE NINTH DAY.

 

This guy definitely has a good look for it.

 

I would like to see a return of the "sinister father figure" the likes of Dr. No, Goldfinger, Blofeld and Hugo Drax.  A couple of good possible choices along those lines could be:

- Brendan Gleeson (his character in AI is a bit Bond villain-like)

- Ciaran Hinds

- Toby Jones (his performance in "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy" told me he could do it)

 

Agree with previously expressed sentiments on:

- Christoph Waltz

 

Dave

Edited by rubixcub, 06 December 2012 - 10:59 PM.

[FOX MULDER]

Robert De Niro

 

Sean Penn

 

Mickey Rourke

[seawolfnyy]

How about Jennifer Lawrence as a femme fatale?

[rubixcub]

If Javier Bardem's casting and subsequent awards traction leads EON to look for recent Oscar-winning, European actors to play villains, then not only does Supporting Actor Oscar winner Christoph Waltz fit the bill, but so does a recent Best Actor Oscar winner: Jean Dujardin.  He has the charm and humor to pull it off, plus in "The Artist" he looked an awful lot like Sean Connery.  Only his English language skills are questionable.

 

Wouldn't it be something if the villain castings went like this:

 

- Bardem wins Oscar in 2008, plays Bond villain in 2012 (4 years later)

- Waltz wins Oscar in 2010, plays Bond villain in 2014 (4 years later)

- Dujardin wins Oscar in 2012, plays Bond villain in 2016 (4 years later)

 

Crazy.

 

Dave

 

 

[JohnnyWalker]

If Javier Bardem's casting and subsequent awards traction leads EON to look for recent Oscar-winning, European actors to play villains, then not only does Supporting Actor Oscar winner Christoph Waltz fit the bill, but so does a recent Best Actor Oscar winner: Jean Dujardin.  He has the charm and humor to pull it off, plus in "The Artist" he looked an awful lot like Sean Connery.  Only his English language skills are questionable.

 

Wouldn't it be something if the villain castings went like this:

 

- Bardem wins Oscar in 2008, plays Bond villain in 2012 (4 years later)

- Waltz wins Oscar in 2010, plays Bond villain in 2014 (4 years later)

- Dujardin wins Oscar in 2012, plays Bond villain in 2016 (4 years later)

 

Crazy.

 

Dave

He already did OSS-117, so it might be too strange.

Edited by JohnnyWalker, 15 February 2013 - 09:38 PM.

[Pussfeller]

Both Waltz and Dujardin will inevitably appear in Bond films sooner or later. If not, I'll eat Werner Herzog's shoe. And I'm sure Waltz will play a Bond villain. It's written in the stars. 

 

But I don't see Dujardin playing a villain. On the contrary, I see him as a comedic or sympathetic supporting character - a Kerim Bey, a Rene Mathis, or even a Milos Columbo. (Personally, I'd cast him as Bond's opposite number in the French secret service.) He would excel at a light supporting role that took advantage of his comedic instincts. But if he were to play the villain, I'm afraid that he'd be the second coming of Jeroen Krabbe. 

[FutureJamesBond]

I don't know if I already posted this, so forgive me if I already did.

 

I think Ben Barnes could be good. He's a young British actor who is good with action.

[Guy Haines]

I think Benedict Cumberbatch, Tom Hardy, Viggo Mortensen are all good choices for Bond villains.

I agree with all three of those choices. Benedict Cumberbatch in particular. It will be interesting to see how his Star Trek villainy turns out, but I can see him already as a cerebral opponent of Bond.

[seawolfnyy]

Waltz is a no brainer, but I'm not sure about Dujardin. He could definitely pull it off, I just don't see EON casting him.

[carddoug]

Alan Rickman