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[Dustin]

Ladies and Gentlemen, the Captain is currently working on the subject of the poll & we'll soon be taking off to our destination SKYFALL and beyond. Thank you for flying with CommanderBond.net...

[Satorious]

As far as I'm aware none of us has an option, do we? So we're probably all members of the same lap-dog club, only some of us whine more about it than others.

Sure EON aren't going to listen to a cross section of Bond nuts on a forum - nor should they. But if the general masses agree with an idea/opinion and people generally start voicing displeasure (eg. QOS was a terrible Bond film or whatever) - they do take notice. They might not act upon it, but I believe they are smart enough to at least take it onboard. Revolution baby!

[antovolk]

New here, longtime lurker. Went along to the red carpet last night, was a blast

Anyway, I came across this on Tumblr - one of the press pics of the premiere after-party at Tate Modern...spoiler-tagged it just in case.

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Look at the video pillars - this is it - it's the gunbarrel. The other photos I found suggest they played the title sequence and the barrel on those screens during the party. Couldn't find any more photos of the screens displaying the barrel, apart from a shot of Fiennes with the screens playing the white dots opening.

[The Dove]

New here, longtime lurker. Went along to the red carpet last night, was a blast

Anyway, I came across this on Tumblr - one of the press pics of the premiere after-party at Tate Modern...spoiler-tagged it just in case.

Spoiler

Look at the video pillars - this is it - it's the gunbarrel. The other photos I found suggest they played the title sequence and the barrel on those screens during the party. Couldn't find any more photos of the screens displaying the barrel, apart from a shot of Fiennes with the screens playing the white dots opening.

Now that looks COOL!! Thanks for posting that pic and welcome to CBN, antovolk!

[antovolk]

Thanks
Found another shot -

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You can see Craig's pose in this, which is identical to the one in the ADELE promo that went around a while back...

[antovolk]

Annnddd....BINGO - a full shot of the barrel from the event:

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Source: http://www.apimages....mediatype=Photo

Can anyone who has seen the film confirm/deny?

Edited by antovolk, 24 October 2012 - 06:19 PM.

[Dustin]

As far as I'm aware none of us has an option, do we? So we're probably all members of the same lap-dog club, only some of us whine more about it than others.

Sure EON aren't going to listen to a cross section of Bond nuts on a forum - nor should they. But if the general masses agree with an idea/opinion and people generally start voicing displeasure (eg. QOS was a terrible Bond film or whatever) - they do take notice. They might not act upon it, but I believe they are smart enough to at least take it onboard. Revolution baby!

Quite. The only relevant opinion with this regard is that of the general audience. It's just doubtful audiences are going to feel as passionate about the matter as we do. And of course nothing keeps the producers from changing things back somewhere down the line as they please.

Edited by Dustin, 24 October 2012 - 06:31 PM.

[quicklyman]

Personally, as long it's there I don't care if it's at the beginning or the end. As a Bond-fan of 40 years, and someone who does not under-estimate the traditional importance of the gunbarrel, and as one of the seemingly few people who really enjoyed Quantum, I remember being mildly surprised by the lack of gunbarrel at the opening but soon forgot about it as we panned across Lake Garda and launched into the Aston Chase. Then right at the end, as Bond walked into the Russian night, as if to make a great film complete...there it was...the gunbarrel. I thought that was just a great touch and I left the cinema with a massive grin on my face. I won't be disappointed if Skyfall is the same.

[Iceskater101]

I think it should be at the beginning, I think that is just a major characteristic of the Bond franchise. Of course, I won't be mad that it is at the end, but I think it belongs in the beginning.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

"The deck was slightly stacked in my favour."

There you have. Nearly the 70% likes to have it at the beginning. BTW, isn't "At the beginning, completely ruining the pacing of the film, and making the very first shot look strange as it follows such a needed tradition. Remember, if it's not at the start then it's OBVIOUSLY NOT A JAMES BOND FILM." a little subjective?

[antovolk]

And here are the images from the video screens put together (sorry it's very small...)

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[Double Naught spy]

Gunbarrel scene = the last drifting dot after 007 fires his gun is symbolic of the 'porthole' into the fantasy world of our favorite British Secret Agent.

The adage, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" comes to mind.

To be sure, there have been many things in the "James Bond playbook" that have needed to be tweeked/changed (silly and implausible Q gadgets, risque female names like "Onatopp" or "Goodhead", etc) because they've become antiquated or passe with the passage of time. However, the gunbarrel scene is not one of them!

That said, gunbarrel or not, I plan on seeing SKYFALL at the earliest showing on Nov. 9th! (Damn your luck, you 007 fans who live across the pond! LOL)

[deth]

voted for the wrong option in the poll. Only read the first bit. Wish I could take my vote back. Vote Obama 2012.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

And here are the images from the video screens put together (sorry it's very small...)

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Love the new design BTW

[JCRendle]

The new poll does not represent my view! I would prefer the gunbarrel at the beginning, but do not consider it the be all and end all of a Bond film. You need a few other options guys!

[Vauxhall]

Hmm, slightly skewed poll, I'd say, but not to worry. The latter option for me.

[Mavalant]

Hi on this online inteview says some stuff on it

http://www.heyuguys....bara-broccolli/

to quote a part it says
"We also thought it would be a nice way to mark the fiftieth anniversary, by having our 50th anniversary logo up there"

could this mena it will open with the 50th logo and go into the film from there?

[Hockey Mask]

Hi on this online inteview says some stuff on it

http://www.heyuguys....bara-broccolli/

to quote a part it says
"We also thought it would be a nice way to mark the fiftieth anniversary, by having our 50th anniversary logo up there"

could this mena it will open with the 50th logo and go into the film from there?

Can I start another thread that discusses the poll choices in this thread.

How about...

Wherever the director thinks it belongs.

[S K Y F A L L]

I hope the gun barrel is at the end for the rest of the Craig films, I don't see the point in it being at the beginning of Bond 24 and Bond 25 if they already made the changes. What's done is done, we can't do anything about might as well accept it and move on.

[Armand Fancypants]

Hi on this online inteview says some stuff on it

http://www.heyuguys....bara-broccolli/

to quote a part it says
"We also thought it would be a nice way to mark the fiftieth anniversary, by having our 50th anniversary logo up there"

could this mena it will open with the 50th logo and go into the film from there?

I'm pretty sure that the gunbarrel becomes the 50th logo at the end, with the words "James Bond Will Return" on screen.

[JimmyBond]

Just read the poll options myself. I detect a large amount of sarcasm in the first choice there

[Loomis]

I don't get why the gun barrel isn't at the start, but I don't particularly care either. It's not something that makes or breaks a movie.

It would be interesting to know why the producers decided to place it at the end.

I'd really like to know this too. I thought putting it at the end was just another one of the horrible QOS decisions and, of course, it would be corrected in SF. But apparently not. What's up with this?

Well, here's my take on it: SKYFALL is still part of the BOND BEGINS era. And it's probably the last of what will turn out to have been the BOND BEGINS trilogy - after

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Moneypenny, Q and apparently also the new M have been introduced,

it's hard to see what else can be brought to the origin story table for BOND 24.

BOND 24 will therefore see our hero (whether played by Craig or someone else) back to being The Bond We All Know And Love™, and the gunbarrel will be back at the beginning of the film.

[S K Y F A L L]

I voted for 'at the end.' I can't wait to see this film and its new gun barrel. From the description it sounds well done.

[Armand Fancypants]

it's hard to see what else can be brought to the origin story table for BOND 24.

Smithers,
Sylvia Trench,
Double-taking wino,
Jaws,
Gogol
Freddie Gray
J. W. Pepper

Then we'll finally have James Bond back.

[Dustin]

it's hard to see what else can be brought to the origin story table for BOND 24.

Smithers,
Sylvia Trench,
Double-taking wino,
Jaws,
Gogol
Freddie Gray
J. W. Pepper

Then we'll finally have James Bond back.

No, then we'll have a Connery/Moore potpourri, just in time for Christmas.

[antovolk]

A couple more pics of the new barrel as in the film I found on Instagram...

Edited by Jim, 25 October 2012 - 07:07 AM.
Slightly illegal

[antovolk]

Sorry about this, got a bit too excited after I found those pics.

Anyway, the design is the same as in the pics from the afterparty that I posted yesterday. IMO an improvement over Quantum, really good job.

[x007AceOfSpades]

Saw the gunbarrel, not impressed by the design. That's all I will say as I don't want to give away to much or say something the wrong way and end up regretting it.

[thecasinoroyale]

Well if those pillars show the new design, I think it looks great - better than 'CR' and 'QOS', there's more visable texture to it and depth.

Well, tomorrow most of us will find out what's in store!!

[dchantry]

The GB works in the film. It is where it is for a reason that both BB and SM have explained. It's great and everything is brought full circle.
Now go and enjoy the film, its superb.

What next, complaining about DC not wearing safari suits or wearing an ill fitting hair piece?