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[PeteNeon]

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It was quite flat sadly. Oh and there's the gunbarrel. Too fast, no muzzle flash, meh. I liked that it kept the blood from QOS, but it should really have had the Binder style, especially when it's followed by the 50 logo.

[antovolk]

I tweeted the guys at Art of the Title asking whether they'll do a a feature on the Skyfall titles and barrel, they said they 'might be working on a little something' and when I replied asking about whether it was actually Daniel Kleinman who designed the barrel for this, they said 'not sure but will ask'. I still have a feeling MK12/not Kleinman may have had a hand in this one...too much similarity to Quantum.

[JimmyBond]

Let's be careful on the spoilers guys. There are people who don't want to know these things, even if it seems trivial to you it might not to them. We have a soundtrack discussion in the spoiler forums where this would all be a bit more appropriate.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

I haven't watched the film, so please, anybody writing spoilers here please indicate EXTREME SPOILER, HEAVY SPOILER, MINOR SPOILER before the actual spoiler.

example

MINOR SPOILER

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The film starts with the MGM logo and ends with the end titles

[WasteOfScotch]

The poll on this page is bs as its written with an intention by the author.
"Where do you prefer the gunbarrel to be?" or "Do you care where the gunbarrel is?" are much better questions.

Complete Skyfall Gunbarrel spoilers:

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The gunbarrel appears at the end, accompanied by the bond theme, The barrel is much larger and Bond fills the frame moreso than usual, he walks a few paces, turns and freezes, we hear a gunshot, but the prop gun doesnt appear to actually fire (which looks lame) This segues into the "50 years" logo and the "James Bond Will Return line.
It's not a great gunbarrel, and I love those sequences, but I really, really dont care whether its at the beginning or end.

The first shot of the movie is *clearly* a nod to the GB sequence, as Bond appears at the end of a corridor, out of focus, but markedly "Steps and turns" into frame and toward camera. As he appears on screen you hear the first 2 notes of the "morse code" theme blare out.
The fact you hear this and the way Craig is shot, coupled with his pause upon facing camera, as the *very first* shot of the film, shows that this was clearly a nod to the GBs of old.

I loved the film by the way, some people are going a bit nuts and hyperbole as "Best Bond EVAAA!!!" and I even read online somewhere "Better than all the others combined!"
Steady there :/

but its *very* good and beautifully shot.

[Platapus94]

I was so excited to see the Gunbarrel at the start of the film, after watching the MGM and Columbia intros, my anticipation was building on it and was rather disappointed with it not being there! I didn't feel like it was a bond film until I saw the DB5, I was a great film and I prefer it to a lot of other bond films, but this one aspect would have made it so much better for me!

[Tony_OO_Black]

After seeing Skyfall in my opinion the placement of the gunbarrel is absolutely justified.

This. Could not agree more.

[Pussfeller]

The poll should have a "don't care" option.

[SecretAgentFan]

After seeing Skyfall in my opinion the placement of the gunbarrel is absolutely justified.

Same here. It makes the ending even more poignant and effective. Also, the beginning is not just starting with the film... EON seems to have decided to open the Craig Bonds with variations of the gun barrel.

[Mr. Smart]

I'm sure the movie's still great, regardless of where the gunbarrel is. But it's one of those things you expect at the start of a 007 film. Like the Star Wars theme and scrolling text, it's a staple of the franchise, and it gets you psyched for what you're about to watch. I can understand it's placement after the pre-title sequence in Casino Royale and at the end of Quantum Of Solace. It provided bookends to Bond's origin story. But that story's been told. He's earned his 00 status. He has become James Bond. He's earned the theme music and gunbarrel sequence in their proper places. And considering it's James Bond's 50th anniversary, you'd think they'd give us a traditional gunbarrel sequence at the start of the movie rather than the end. Nonetheless, I'm looking forward to the movie and Q's return to the series.

[Vauxhall]

The poll should have a "don't care" option.

Quoted for truth.

[Satorious]

Not that the options above are particular representative, but "don't care" should probably be broken down into "I don't care where, so long as it is there somewhere" and "I don't care (about the gun-barrel)". Anyone selecting the last option should also get beaten by a large stick.

[freemo]

What about an option for those of us who'd rather not have it at all?

Haven't seen one I liked since Binder. It worked originally in part because of it's simplity (and how it was done, timed, etc), and I'm not sure anyone would have the restraint to just do it straight without trying to add their own "creative" (read "awful") CG "spin" on it. As a logo or "signature" at the end of the film, I guess it's harmless and kind of cool, but imitations rarely work because the imitator usually doesn't understand what made the original work.

I guess I'm in favour of the BB-MGW films differentiating themselves from the ARB-HS films wherever possible (while still remaining James Bond films, of course. "different, but the same", instead of "the same, but different", which may sound like semantics but is actually a major, and I think, positive, change in mindset and intent). Maybe someone new can come up with something new.

[Armand Fancypants]

I'd love it in future if they just used the Binder imagery. It'd be a wonderful tribute to a man who defined so much of the Bond iconography to just use the photograph he took without embellishment.

[Satorious]

Nothing beats the "Binder-barrel"!

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Was hoping to have it back for the 50th Anniversary, with all the posters promoting it. Alas we got yet another dull and dreary QOS knock-off in SF

[QuantumOfRoyale]

it's hard to see what else can be brought to the origin story table for BOND 24.

Smithers,
Sylvia Trench,
Double-taking wino,
Jaws,
Gogol
Freddie Gray
J. W. Pepper

Then we'll finally have James Bond back.

No, then we'll have a Connery/Moore potpourri, just in time for Christmas.

And I thought Christmas only comes once a year...

[The ides of Mark]

What bothers me the most about the GB at the very end of the film is that the cinema's I visited to watch QOS already turned on the lights during this sequence. This REALLY ruined the iconic moment for me.

Edited by The ides of Mark, 30 October 2012 - 11:15 AM.

[Platapus94]

I'm sure the movie's still great, regardless of where the gunbarrel is. But it's one of those things you expect at the start of a 007 film. Like the Star Wars theme and scrolling text, it's a staple of the franchise, and it gets you psyched for what you're about to watch. I can understand it's placement after the pre-title sequence in Casino Royale and at the end of Quantum Of Solace. It provided bookends to Bond's origin story. But that story's been told. He's earned his 00 status. He has become James Bond. He's earned the theme music and gunbarrel sequence in their proper places. And considering it's James Bond's 50th anniversary, you'd think they'd give us a traditional gunbarrel sequence at the start of the movie rather than the end. Nonetheless, I'm looking forward to the movie and Q's return to the series.

Agreed! Couldn't have said it better myself

Plenty of people in the cinema where I saw it stood up and started to leave before the gunbarrel started, and my girlfriend said to me, 'come on, let's go', I was like 'DOOD! WOT R U DOEN!? This is what I came here for.'

[FlemingBond]

seems like they're inventing reasons not to put it at the start of the movie. Every time i see the GB at the end of QOS it just seems out of place, like taking out the intro to a song and putting it at the end.

[nicage]

The problem with having the gunbarrel at the end is that many people think the movie is over and start to stand up during this sequence. They also get restless because the movie is so long. That's exactly what happened when I saw Skyfall.

Having said that, the placement is indeed justified, but should be back where it belongs in the next film.

[levitator]

I generally prefer the GB at the very beginning (I mentioned it before in this thread). Saw Skyfall yesterday... It would fit very well at the beginning... BUT IMO the end of the movie would NOT work without it behind the last scene. But there can be only one gunbarrel...

[DABOY]

How I wished the gunbarrel looked (GB designed by me)

[x007AceOfSpades]

Great job DABOY! Love it!

[marktmurphy]

I don't think it worked at the end of Skyfall as well as it did for QoS, no. The music was a bit disappointing in that it wasn't synced to the graphics.

And like others, I also had people standing up during it. Sort of diminishes the effect.

On reflection I would have stuck it on the beginning- I don't think it serves much purpose on the end and people aren't bothered about watching it at the end.

[DamnCoffee]

Found this on Tumblr. Interesting, since it's not the one I saw.

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[AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän]

Photoshop.

[Vauxhall]

If it was real (and I'm not convinced), then surely it's a copyrighted image and shouldn't be posted on the board?

[The Shark]

Found this on Tumblr. Interesting, since it's not the one I saw.

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Looks like the Brosnan barrel. Again, not what I saw.

[x007AceOfSpades]

Such a weak design. Can't choose which one I hate more. That one or QOS's...

[TQB]

I actually don't think it's bad. I have to see it in person though.