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#601 thecasinoroyale

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:44 AM

Courtesy of EMPIRE Online and iTunes - Sam Mendes talks about the 'Skyfall' gunbarrel sequence...

Given that it's already grossed £50 million in just ten days at the UK box office, we're guessing that you've seen the new James Bond film, Skyfall. So you'll know that the film doesn't begin with the traditional gunbarrel sequence, where Bond walks into the sights of a sniper, accompanied by the James Bond Theme, and shoots said sniper with his customary elan and grace.

Instead, like Quantum Of Solace, the gun barrel sequence is reserved for the end of the film, a decision that has become one of the few contentious points about a film that's been otherwise universally embraced.

And now Sam Mendes has spoken about the decision to do so, during an Apple Store Q&A with Empire's Chris Hewitt. Responding to a question from an audience member who raised the issue of the gunbarrel sequence, Mendes replied, "I tried very hard to put the gunbarrel at the beginning and my intention was always to do that. If you see the film, the film starts with Bond walking down a corridor towards camera and lifting a gun. And of course the gunbarrel is him walking, stopping and lifting a gun. When I put the two together, it looked ridiculous!"

Mendes went on to explain that he is a fan of the gun barrel sequence, which still hasn't officially started a Daniel Craig Bond movie. "For me, I love the gunbarrel logo being at the beginning. It's almost the best bit. Everything is possible in that moment, it's like Christmas Eve. It was frustrating to be not able to make it work in that way."

To see and hear Mendes' answer in its entirety, as well as his thoughts on directing another Bond film (or Star Wars Episode VII!), press play on the video below. And for the whole Meet The Filmmaker interview, go https://itunes.apple...522?i=123471467


So Academy Award winning director Sam Mendes has gone on record saying the gunbarrel sequence is "...almost the best bit." :)

#602 Dustin

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:54 AM

Told ya...

But I suppose putting it at the start, with it then opening to the first shot would have been awkward. I'm almost positive they tried it and the result was laughable....


Edited by Dustin, 06 November 2012 - 11:56 AM.


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Posted 06 November 2012 - 12:10 PM

Told ya...

But I suppose putting it at the start, with it then opening to the first shot would have been awkward. I'm almost positive they tried it and the result was laughable....


You did, but after quantumofsolace had already posted it... :)

http://www.digitalsp...of-skyfall.html



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Posted 06 November 2012 - 12:18 PM

Oh, didn't see that. I also must admit my own concern would have been more about the general sequence (also in connection with the MGM intro) but Mendes makes his point quite clear about the similarity of gunbarrel and first frame of SKYFALL.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 12:56 PM

If was Mr Mendes' creative consultant, I'd have just tapped him on the shoulder and said "Why not use the gunbarrel at the beginning, save the 007 fans dissapointment and start with a stunning shot of Istanbul so we know, straight away, where we are. Then cut to the hallway and cue the image of Bond after a few seconds."

If only.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 01:21 PM

If was Mr Mendes' creative consultant, I'd have just tapped him on the shoulder and said "Why not use the gunbarrel at the beginning, save the 007 fans dissapointment and start with a stunning shot of Istanbul so we know, straight away, where we are. Then cut to the hallway and cue the image of Bond after a few seconds."

If only.


It's not exactly rocket salad, is it? I'm not seething with anger or anything, but it just should go there- for the reasons Mendes himself says.
The fella from Empire was pretty disappointed too...

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 02:10 PM

I know - but we'll never know why an establishing shot couldn't have been used. It would have been just as breathtaking to see.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 02:12 PM

Sorry, Sam, no excuse for me... :sad:

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 06:11 PM

It may have looked ridiculous, but I think it would have been pretty nifty.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 06:15 PM

Sorry, Sam, no excuse for me... :sad:


Right! to be honest, the opening shot is cool but not awesome. The gunbarrel opening on a Turkey panoramical shot, then a cut to Bond sneaking gun in hand would have looked Bonder and better.

Still, I think the gunbarrel at the end fits better for SF than QOS

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 06:37 PM

yadda yadda... he was so enamoured with his first Craig scene he sacrificed the gunbarrel for it. Alright, point taken. Still would have prefered it the other way around though. I agree with thecasinoroyale. It would have been amazing done in said fashion (iris opening on Istanbul).

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 06:43 PM

I agree! Hopefully it will be back at the beginning for Bond 24! I mean, come on! It's time to get it back where it belongs.

Edited by DCI_director, 06 November 2012 - 08:15 PM.


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Posted 06 November 2012 - 07:15 PM

Personally I love the gunbarrel at the beginning as it evokes the era the film is made in (such as the girth/circumference of Roger's Lionels) and sometimes it gives (and in future could give) a little clue to what's to come in the movie. A lovely example of this is George Lazenby falling to one knee in OHMSS, a double reference to kneeling to propose to Tracy or possibly kneeling before The Queen. I have to say that the mass of Bond-related marketing prior to Skyfall starting really annoyed the cinema, and a nice, loud, large Imax-sized gunbarrel would have done very nicely to take us away from that....

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 07:23 PM

a nice, loud, large Imax-sized gunbarrel would have done very nicely to take us away from that....


That would have been AMAZING.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 02:43 AM

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 04:45 AM

I thought the opening shot for Skyfall worked fine, but I do hope they put it back at the beginning for 24. They have all the other elements in place.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 06:07 AM

I've been completely fine with the gunbarrels in the last few films. Actually, aside from being at the end of the film, I think the QoS gunbarrel is one of the better ones in the series (I like that he walks away after shooting). It also works well at the end of Skyfall as Bond's world is finally back to normal.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 07:13 AM


Sorry, Sam, no excuse for me... :sad:


Right! to be honest, the opening shot is cool but not awesome. The gunbarrel opening on a Turkey panoramical shot, then a cut to Bond sneaking gun in hand would have looked Bonder and better.

Still, I think the gunbarrel at the end fits better for SF than QOS

Agreed. It felt appropriate at the end of Skyfall. It was the most logical thing after the ending scene and nice period to the end of 50 years of Bond. Now I'd like to think it'll be back in place for Bond 24.

Watching Quantum of Solace again last night, it really felt like the gun barrel was at the end for the sake of being at the end. I don't think the opening shot in that case would have been ruined. The iris could have easily opened up on the identical shot across the lake as it is since it abruptly fades in from black anyways.

However, I'm with Sam Mendes on Skyfall. He was right.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 07:15 AM

Agreed.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 07:36 AM

If was Mr Mendes' creative consultant, I'd have just tapped him on the shoulder and said "Why not use the gunbarrel at the beginning, save the 007 fans dissapointment and start with a stunning shot of Istanbul so we know, straight away, where we are. Then cut to the hallway and cue the image of Bond after a few seconds."

If only.


Totally agree. It's really not that complicated. To have a film that is celebrating the 50th year of its lead character in its 23rd (official) movie, and the filmmakers decide to further do away with tradition and nostalgia of such an iconic moment that helped make their series so great is--to put it mildly--very frustrating and annoying.
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I've been completely fine with the gunbarrels in the last few films. Actually, aside from being at the end of the film, I think the QoS gunbarrel is one of the better ones in the series (I like that he walks away after shooting). It also works well at the end of Skyfall as Bond's world is finally back to normal.

That's what everyone's been saying since Daniel Craig took over. The gun barrel where it was in Casino Royale was fine and made stylistic sense. I'd have preferred it at the beginning, but I can live with where it's at. Afterwards, everyone said that Craig saying "Bond, James Bond" signified that he was now the Bond we all know and love and the gun barrel would return to the beginning.

Two years later, Quantum Of Solace rolls around, and lo and behold the gun barrel is missing at the beginning again only to be found tacked on at the end in a thoroughly horrible use of it, both placement and execution. At the time we were told, this now bookends Bond's becoming the 007 we know and love and the gun barrel will be back at the beginning of the next film.

Cue four years later and here comes Skyfall and guess what? No gun barrel at the beginning yet again! Once more it is placed at the end of the movie. This time it is filmed better than QOS but it still doesn't remotely look or feel right. And now everybody's saying "well next time the gun barrel will be at the beginning." I'm sure they're right, just as I was sure they were right the previous two films, but I can't help feeling I'm about to be suckered again.

Just put the damn thing where it belongs!

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 07:48 AM

I live in the U.S. so I've just seen SKYFALL and I really think it's a 5 star Bond film. The ONLY fault I find with the film is that the gun barrel sequence is not at the beginning where it should be. I've read Sam Mendes' explanation and understand his explanation but there's ALWAYS a way to make it work with a different opening shot. I think he should have been more flexible. For me, it doesn't work at the end. . .just too much history and too many memories of watching Bond films since I was 4 years old. The GB is an original film icon and ABSOLUTELY sets the tone and puts you in the mood for a 007 adventure. I wish they would quit dicking around with it and leave it be. At the beginning!!!! I can excuse the positioning of the GB in CR but not QOS and certainly not SF.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 07:49 AM

Just got back from seeing the film. The opening shot is cool, but it's not that hard to include an establishing shot after the gunbarrel, followed by Bond walking.

I hope they re-film it and re-design it. It was a very weak design.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 07:54 AM

It was the clincher, eh?

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 07:55 AM

The only fault I had with the gunbarrel being at the end was that people were starting to stand up during it(!) I could understand them doing it with Quantum, since the film faded to black for a second before it popped on. But this barrel happened right after the end scene...and people still got up.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 07:55 AM

We all know the reason behind no opening gun barrel in CR and only at the end of QOS is because the two films are really one story of how Bond becomes Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
We will see it for sure in Skyfall and it will be fantastic!

And what could you say right now, after seeing SF? That the three Craig films are really one story of how Bond becomes Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. I will say it again, QOS it's not one story together with CR (or with SF too), it's just happened that only after the big success of CR, they decided to make a so called direct sequel for a film that didn't end in such a cliffhanger to need something like that.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 08:04 AM

Can we have a re-edit with the GB at the beginning for the Blu-ray/DVD release? I, for one, would GREATLY appreciate it!!! This would enhance the total SKYFALL experience.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:28 AM


Sorry, Sam, no excuse for me... :sad:


Right! to be honest, the opening shot is cool but not awesome. The gunbarrel opening on a Turkey panoramical shot, then a cut to Bond sneaking gun in hand would have looked Bonder and better.

Still, I think the gunbarrel at the end fits better for SF than QOS

Yes, totally agree. In fact, if they would have been obligated, for same strange reason, to put the gunbarrel at the end in at least one Craig movie, they should have done that only for SF, and not for QOS (whose end it's almost a- thematic- reiteration of CR's finale).

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:37 AM



Sorry, Sam, no excuse for me... :sad:


Right! to be honest, the opening shot is cool but not awesome. The gunbarrel opening on a Turkey panoramical shot, then a cut to Bond sneaking gun in hand would have looked Bonder and better.

Still, I think the gunbarrel at the end fits better for SF than QOS

Agreed. It felt appropriate at the end of Skyfall. It was the most logical thing after the ending scene and nice period to the end of 50 years of Bond. Now I'd like to think it'll be back in place for Bond 24.

Watching Quantum of Solace again last night, it really felt like the gun barrel was at the end for the sake of being at the end. I don't think the opening shot in that case would have been ruined. The iris could have easily opened up on the identical shot across the lake as it is since it abruptly fades in from black anyways.

Yep, Forster only wanted to show us that he could be "different" for the (pretentious) sake of it.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:41 AM

After seeing SF, the gun barrel at the end seemed perfect. However, in QOS, it just seemed out of place. If anything, it could have been at the end in CR (for the beginning of Bond), at the start of QOS, and at the end of SF (for the return of Bond). IMHO, in QOS, Bond was neither beginning nor returning...not really.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 07:46 PM




Sorry, Sam, no excuse for me... :sad:


Right! to be honest, the opening shot is cool but not awesome. The gunbarrel opening on a Turkey panoramical shot, then a cut to Bond sneaking gun in hand would have looked Bonder and better.

Still, I think the gunbarrel at the end fits better for SF than QOS

Agreed. It felt appropriate at the end of Skyfall. It was the most logical thing after the ending scene and nice period to the end of 50 years of Bond. Now I'd like to think it'll be back in place for Bond 24.

Watching Quantum of Solace again last night, it really felt like the gun barrel was at the end for the sake of being at the end. I don't think the opening shot in that case would have been ruined. The iris could have easily opened up on the identical shot across the lake as it is since it abruptly fades in from black anyways.

Yep, Forster only wanted to show us that he could be "different" for the (pretentious) sake of it.


Agreed. Worst desicion EVER!