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[honeyjes]

Big difference, he was never an underling

[MrKidd]

Lois Maxwell was the best follow by Samantha Bond as the second best in my view. It going to be hard to top them two in my view, whoever gets the role. Caroline Bliss coming in last. Any way I DON'T want to sound like a racist, but a black Miss Moneypenny can that really work in the bond movies.

That's a strange thing to say. Actually, its more like a rascist thing to say. What does that even mean??

[occhile007]

Jeffrey Wright did a damn good job as Felix Leighter...cough cough, and I didn't hear any complaints about him.

Think before you speak Sydicate...


James Bond: "Speak up, darling, I can't hear you."

Edited by occhile007, 04 November 2011 - 05:02 PM.

[Skudor]

If Watts is a surprise Moneypenny, then it's Penny with a twist - which sort of fits what they've been doing. My gut is telling me she is, but I'd be happy either way.

[d21089]

Harris not Watts

Naomi Watts


Naomi Harris

[Skudor]

Harris not Watts

Naomi Watts


Naomi Harris

LOL

Now I'm not so sure anymore.

[MajorB]

Baz is not going to let this drop. Form today’s Mail...

http://www.dailymail...o=feeds-newsxml

This bit is interesting

Javier Bardem and the little-known French actress Berenice Marlohe will play the latest villains.

Given how much he's gotten right, it'd be surprising if Baz were wrong about Moneypenny, especially given how hard he's pushing the idea. In which case his calling Marlohe a villain is indeed pretty interesting as well.

[Peckinpah1976]

If Marlohe is a villain (or at least Bardem's lover); that makes Eve main Bond girl surely, rather than Moneypenny? Not that the two roles are mutually exclusive but given Watts' comments about training and where her career is at, I'd say unlikely.

Edited by Peckinpah1976, 04 November 2011 - 11:04 PM.

[bill007]

With Jeffrey Wright as Felix Leighter... and if Naomi Harris becomes Miss Moneypenny.... is the stage not set for someone like Idris Elbato to possibly become the next James Bond?

[Captain Tightpants]

Harris not Watts

Naomi Watts


Naomi Harris

I see no difference.

[d21089]

no difference, just that people keep calling harris "watts"- so just pointing out that naomi watts is not in bond 23 but naomi harris is and she will be great i'm sure

[FlemingBond]

so we're still not sure who Harris is playing??

[d21089]

a field agent called eve whose last name may or may not be moneypenny who thinks she's Bond's equal but she's really not

[Mercator]

a field agent called eve whose last name may or may not be moneypenny who thinks she's Bond's equal but she's really not

Yes, think this is right. In reboot world, there is no Moneypenny. So she can be a field agent.

[Vauxhall]

I DON'T want to sound like a racist, but...

No sentence with this sequence of words ever ends well.

so we're still not sure who Harris is playing??

We're only sure that she's not playing Naomi Watts. Probably.

[deth]

it's not racist to suggest that it may be weird to change the race of a classic character. It's racist to suggest that a person of a particular race should not have a similar role in the real world

[Pussfeller]

The "weirdness" is a property of the changing world, not of the film that reflects it.

The Bond series has always taken pains to reflect the real world, albeit in a fantastical, funhouse-mirror sort of way. In the interest of preserving the essence of the characters, it's sometimes a good idea to disdain superficialities rather than respect them. There used to be a notion that Bond must always be a chain-smoker, that it was essential to his character. In reality, a man like Bond would once have been a chain-smoker, but today the same kind of man wouldn't be. The character trait that manifested itself as chain-smoking must be expressed by another means. Otherwise Bond becomes a historical curiosity.

Particularly in the case of sidekicks like Felix and Moneypenny, the essence of the characters has never been associated with a particular physical appearance or ethnic background. Both characters have aged and rejuvenated inexplicably. Both have survived being played by Canadians. So if the producers find a good actress who happens to be black, or south Asian, or Mancunian, or whatever else might be plausible in the context of modern Britain, I don't understand the objection. I wouldn't call it "racist", merely superficial.

[Leon]

If Eve turns out to be Moneypenny, then it would appear that they intend to show some kind of bonding with Bond "in the field" to try and explain the original chemistry between the two characters ever since Dr No.

If so then that could very easily turn out weak and a bit of a lame plot gimmick. It would have to be done.. SUPREMELY well and incredibly creatively.

As for her skin colour.. come on, jeez. This is 2011, what the heck does that matter AT ALL? Moneypenny is not the main character, being radically changed/messed with, in fact she has been portrayed awfully by a few white women. Naomi Harris looks like she'd make a very fine and attractive Moneypenny. That's if she even is playing that character.

[Captain Tightpants]

As for her skin colour.. come on, jeez. This is 2011, what the heck does that matter AT ALL?

It obviously means the world to The Daily Mail, given their agenda of attacking everyone who is different to them.

[Cody]

The Daily Mail is continuing to push this idea. They're definitely committed to it.

[Captain Tightpants]

Of course they are. They've backed Harris as Moneypenny from the start, and they obviously feel that being proven wrong later is better than recanting now. If you listened during the press conference, Baz Beelzebub's "question" (all five of them) was worded to try and get Harris to confess to being Moneypenny. He was obviously trying to push the entire Q&A session in that direction.

[The Shark]

You know this for a fact?

[Captain Tightpants]

You know this for a fact?

No.

[SecretAgentFan]

I´d be fine with this "field agent becoming Moneypenny"-idea... since I actually had that idea a few months ago on this board.

[Col. Sun]

Eve is Moneypenny.

[Captain Tightpants]

Eve is not Moneypenny.

[univex]

Eve is Moneypenny.

PS:Is this a game? Can I join in?

[Skudor]

Eve may or may not be the character formerly known as Moneypenny.

[univex]

Eve may or may not be the character formerly known as Moneypenny.

Thank you

[Captain Tightpants]

PS:Is this a game? Can I join in?

No!

Actually, I was just trying to make a point. Col. Sun posted "Eve is Moneypenny" without any explanation or evidence. I'm not sure what he is expecting but his working implies access to knowledge. I decided that, in the interests of fairness, someone should post "Eve is not Moneypenny" just to highlight the way he did not bother to elaborate. I cannot prove Eve is not Moneypenny just as much as he cannot prove that she is.