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#91 DR76

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 09:40 PM


My guess is that they have taken their creativity to whole new level by making Q both female AND black.



Naomie Harris as Moneypenny or a female Q??

Oh please! The woman is Bond leading lady material.


I, for one, agree with you DR76. And if people are still hanging on to the fact she´s black (I can´t see why is that a matter of discussion), she´s way hotter then that wanttobeactresswhowonanoscarjustsotheacademycouldbeoftheracistfingerpointing Halle Berry, and I happen to believe most beautifull women in the world are black.



I wish I could agree with you, but I never had a problem with Halle Berry either.

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 11:23 PM



My guess is that they have taken their creativity to whole new level by making Q both female AND black.



Naomie Harris as Moneypenny or a female Q??

Oh please! The woman is Bond leading lady material.


I, for one, agree with you DR76. And if people are still hanging on to the fact she´s black (I can´t see why is that a matter of discussion), she´s way hotter then that wanttobeactresswhowonanoscarjustsotheacademycouldbeoftheracistfingerpointing Halle Berry, and I happen to believe most beautifull women in the world are black.



I wish I could agree with you, but I never had a problem with Halle Berry either.


Well, she Is hot, but I don´t think of her as a great actress, not even a good one. Not oscar material, but then again, many of them aren´t and they get there anyway.

Portman, great actress. Marion Cotillard, great actress. Meryl Streep (13 nominations), great actress. Halle Berry? nop. Swordfish, x.men, jinx, gottica, catwoman, ..., nuff said. Of course there are a couple of good ones like Monster´s ball. And I know the award goes to a performance in ONE filme, but still. But she IS hot. Then again, which Bond girl isn´t?

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 11:47 PM

Well, she Is hot, but I don´t think of her as a great actress, not even a good one. Not oscar material, but then again, many of them aren´t and they get there anyway.

Portman, great actress. Marion Cotillard, great actress. Meryl Streep (13 nominations), great actress. Halle Berry? nop. Swordfish, x.men, jinx, gottica, catwoman, ..., nuff said. Of course there are a couple of good ones like Monster´s ball. And I know the award goes to a performance in ONE filme, but still. But she IS hot. Then again, which Bond girl isn´t?


Perhaps she has not played yet in the movie which will really launch her career, but I'm convinced she'll become a great actress.

#94 univex

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 12:32 AM


Well, she Is hot, but I don´t think of her as a great actress, not even a good one. Not oscar material, but then again, many of them aren´t and they get there anyway.

Portman, great actress. Marion Cotillard, great actress. Meryl Streep (13 nominations), great actress. Halle Berry? nop. Swordfish, x.men, jinx, gottica, catwoman, ..., nuff said. Of course there are a couple of good ones like Monster´s ball. And I know the award goes to a performance in ONE filme, but still. But she IS hot. Then again, which Bond girl isn´t?


Perhaps she has not played yet in the movie which will really launch her career, but I'm convinced she'll become a great actress.

Who? Hally Berry? Hope so, who knows... Depends on her choice of roles.

Oh, and TCK, McQueen rules! ;)

Edited by univex, 10 June 2011 - 12:33 AM.


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Posted 10 June 2011 - 03:21 AM

Granted, this story was in the News Of The Screws :P but if she were to be a Bond girl, then definitely a :tup:

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 07:51 AM



Well, she Is hot, but I don´t think of her as a great actress, not even a good one. Not oscar material, but then again, many of them aren´t and they get there anyway.

Portman, great actress. Marion Cotillard, great actress. Meryl Streep (13 nominations), great actress. Halle Berry? nop. Swordfish, x.men, jinx, gottica, catwoman, ..., nuff said. Of course there are a couple of good ones like Monster´s ball. And I know the award goes to a performance in ONE filme, but still. But she IS hot. Then again, which Bond girl isn´t?


Perhaps she has not played yet in the movie which will really launch her career, but I'm convinced she'll become a great actress.

Who? Hally Berry? Hope so, who knows... Depends on her choice of roles.

Oh, and TCK, McQueen rules! ;)


No no no no, Naomie Harris. Steve McQueen always rules ! Are you a fan too ? :P

#97 Binyamin

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 08:50 AM

And if people are still hanging on to the fact she´s black (I can´t see why is that a matter of discussion)


Well, I was commenting about black actresses in the franchise as a whole, not her. I happen to think she's GORGEOUS -- recently saw her in Miami Vice and loved her.

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 01:52 PM

My guess is that they have taken their creativity to whole new level by making Q both female AND black.



Naomie Harris as Moneypenny or a female Q??

Oh please! The woman is Bond leading lady material.

In Gardner's books, Maj. Boothroyd had an assistant named Ann Reilly, that Bond affectionately called "Q-ute"

#99 univex

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 03:55 PM

No no no no, Naomie Harris. Steve McQueen always rules ! Are you a fan too ? :P


Huge huge fan. There´s a bullit poster on the wall starring at me and the persol 714 are on the desk, next to the 1:18 GT 390 fastback. Always been a McQueen/Newman fan. :tup:

Also, your Bondactor/film/bondgirl/villain/ally/etc... choices are impeccable :tup:

Cheers


And if people are still hanging on to the fact she´s black (I can´t see why is that a matter of discussion)


Well, I was commenting about black actresses in the franchise as a whole, not her. I happen to think she's GORGEOUS -- recently saw her in Miami Vice and loved her.


She was rather cool in such a small role. We cared for her. So :tup: for Naomi, she´d be an excellent bond woman.

Edited by univex, 10 June 2011 - 03:53 PM.


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Posted 11 June 2011 - 03:21 AM

Paula Patton needs a good director to give a good performance. Saw her on an episode of SVU once and she was even worse than the script, which is saying a lot.

Kerry Washington would be fantastic, though she's doing tv full-time now so it'll never happen. Shame.

#101 blueman

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 07:50 AM

Having said that, if Harris is to be in the movie she should be either lead or supporting Bond Girl; I don't want to see her playing Moneypenny or Q (we've already had enough radical reinterpretations of M, Bond, and Felix; we don't need to add yet another casting controversy).

Good effin' lord.

#102 MarkA

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 09:53 AM

The pictures I have found of Naomie Harris so far show an attractive woman, but not one that I would consider worthy of being the lead Bond Girl, or even the supporting Bond Girl.

Different strokes for different folks. From the moment I saw her in 28 Days Later I have always found her talented and extremely attractive. She sure could be Bond leading lady material to me. Agree with you about stunt casting though. M, Felix etc.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 06:30 PM

As for stunt casting...I never had a problem with Dench taking on the role of M (she's my favorite M), but I didn't care for, and still don't, the hiring of Jeffrey Wright as Felix, and was initially outraged by the hiring of Daniel Craig. The Bond series has gone through a lot of changes since 1995, but I think any more fundamental changes to the constitution of characters we've already come to know and love, such as making Moneypenny a lesbian, or making Q Asian or black, is unnecessary.


Fleming himself was a shameless practitioner of "stunt casting", except that it's the villains who were always racially "something else". So any overt reaction against racism on the part of the producers is inevitably a betrayal of Fleming. It's also a necessary betrayal, without which the Bond series would have a limited, anachronistic appeal, perhaps an ironic appeal, but not the broad popular appeal that keeps the series profitable on a large scale.

As for sexual politics, that's another thing entirely. To this day, the Bond series is as exclusively, aggressively heterosexual as anything in cinema. Apart from a few horribly misguided caricatures (Pussy Galore, Messrs Wint and Kidd), has there been even one non-heterosexual character in the history of the franchise? I think not. (I hope I won't be branded "PC" for mentioning the obvious.) The inclusion of any such character would probably provoke a lot of grumbling on this forum, not because anyone here is in any way homophobic, but because we'd be dismayed to see a once-proud franchise bowing to trendy tokenism. (In fact, including a gay character in an espionage story would be pretty easy and organic, because it's happened a lot in real life. One word: blackmail.)

But obviously tastes differ. Personally, I've never cared for the idea of a female M. (Or maybe I just don't like Judi Dench having four and a half hours of screentime per film.) She's much better with Craig than she was with Brosnan, but still, I'd warmly welcome a return to a crusty old admiral. On the other hand, I strongly approve of Jeffrey Wright's Felix Leiter, and his race isn't irrelevant. It makes his relationship with Bond subtly but perceptibly different, in a way that echoes the changing demographic personality of the United States and the changing relationship between the U.S. and the U.K. In fact, I'd say that Wright was the smartest bit of casting in years, and not a stunt by any means.

#104 MarkA

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 06:48 PM



As for stunt casting...I never had a problem with Dench taking on the role of M (she's my favorite M), but I didn't care for, and still don't, the hiring of Jeffrey Wright as Felix, and was initially outraged by the hiring of Daniel Craig. The Bond series has gone through a lot of changes since 1995, but I think any more fundamental changes to the constitution of characters we've already come to know and love, such as making Moneypenny a lesbian, or making Q Asian or black, is unnecessary.


Fleming himself was a shameless practitioner of "stunt casting", except that it's the villains who were always racially "something else". So any overt reaction against racism on the part of the producers is inevitably a betrayal of Fleming. It's also a necessary betrayal, without which the Bond series would have a limited, anachronistic appeal, perhaps an ironic appeal, but not the broad popular appeal that keeps the series profitable on a large scale.

As for sexual politics, that's another thing entirely. To this day, the Bond series is as exclusively, aggressively heterosexual as anything in cinema. Apart from a few horribly misguided caricatures (Pussy Galore, Messrs Wint and Kidd), has there been even one non-heterosexual character in the history of the franchise? I think not. (I hope I won't be branded "PC" for mentioning the obvious.) The inclusion of any such character would probably provoke a lot of grumbling on this forum, not because anyone here is in any way homophobic, but because we'd be dismayed to see a once-proud franchise bowing to trendy tokenism. (In fact, including a gay character in an espionage story would be pretty easy and organic, because it's happened a lot in real life. One word: blackmail.)

But obviously tastes differ. Personally, I've never cared for the idea of a female M. (Or maybe I just don't like Judi Dench having four and a half hours of screentime per film.) She's much better with Craig than she was with Brosnan, but still, I'd warmly welcome a return to a crusty old admiral. On the other hand, I strongly approve of Jeffrey Wright's Felix Leiter, and his race isn't irrelevant. It makes his relationship with Bond subtly but perceptibly different, in a way that echoes the changing demographic personality of the United States and the changing relationship between the U.S. and the U.K. In fact, I'd say that Wright was the smartest bit of casting in years, and not a stunt by any means.

Up to a point because I think Jeffrey Wright is a terrific actor and he at least registers as a character unlike the many faceless Felix's we have had over the years. But (call me a purist) I still think he could have been another CIA member and we waited until they cast a terrific Texan actor and we got the Felix we have been craving since the series started.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 09:38 PM


No no no no, Naomie Harris. Steve McQueen always rules ! Are you a fan too ? :P


Huge huge fan. There´s a bullit poster on the wall starring at me and the persol 714 are on the desk, next to the 1:18 GT 390 fastback. Always been a McQueen/Newman fan. :tup:

Also, your Bondactor/film/bondgirl/villain/ally/etc... choices are impeccable :tup:

Cheers


Thanks.

May I add you to my friendlist ? And in this way perhaps we'll talk about Steve in private, if you want. Between fans. B)

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 12:33 AM

Up to a point because I think Jeffrey Wright is a terrific actor and he at least registers as a character unlike the many faceless Felix's we have had over the years. But (call me a purist) I still think he could have been another CIA member and we waited until they cast a terrific Texan actor and we got the Felix we have been craving since the series started.


I like Wright as an actor because he's a chameleon and I enjoy him as Felix because they've actually written some meaty dialogue for him. If they were going for the "Big Texan" interpretation, they could've cast Everett McGill as he certainly fits the bill. Especially now that his hair has gone all gray.

Back to Ms. Harris. I don't think all Bond Girls have to be drop dead gorgeous. I think they have to be sexy or at least have sex appeal that's more than apparent on-screen. Michelle Yeoh wasn't everyone's cup of tea but she certainly handled the action scenes in TND and came off more than credible as someone Bond could "get with." Ms. Harris may not turn heads to many, now that the rumors have surfaced but that may change once the on-set photos and publicity shots emerge (if she is indeed cast). Who knows, she could have an entrance that's the 21st century equivalent of Honey Ryder emerging from the sea. Folks opinions may change from that point on.

#107 univex

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 02:23 AM



No no no no, Naomie Harris. Steve McQueen always rules ! Are you a fan too ? :P


Huge huge fan. There´s a bullit poster on the wall starring at me and the persol 714 are on the desk, next to the 1:18 GT 390 fastback. Always been a McQueen/Newman fan. :tup:

Also, your Bondactor/film/bondgirl/villain/ally/etc... choices are impeccable :tup:

Cheers


Thanks.

May I add you to my friendlist ? And in this way perhaps we'll talk about Steve in private, if you want. Between fans. B)


Sure TCK, always a pleasure meeting another McQueen fan. Long live the king of cool B)

#108 blueman

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 07:29 AM

Casting a person of color in M, Q, Moneypenny, Leiter or even Bond himself can't be considered stunt casting these days. Maybe 50 years ago, but that ain't today.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 09:54 AM

Everyone's a person of colour.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 10:01 AM

Casting a person of color in M, Q, Moneypenny, Leiter or even Bond himself can't be considered stunt casting these days. Maybe 50 years ago, but that ain't today.


I disagree. It's not a problem of people of color, the problem is that those characters, except Leiter perhaps, marked the James Bond saga, and each has a reference people refers to. Each new Bond actor is compared with Connery, each new M actor is compared with Lee, each new Q actor is compared with Llewelyn and each new Moneypenny actress is compared with Maxwell. For Leiter I don't think so, and even though Jack Lord was the best Leiter, Wright is doing a wonderful job. Perhaps he'll be the new reference. Let's not forget he's the only actor who played Leiter twice in a row.

That's why to me, it's necessary to introduce new characters. As I said a few posts before, Harris would be the perfect actress for Loelia Ponsonby. I may be a bit too stubborn, but it would be fantastic to start again from scratch and make James Bond movies more Bondian and "Flemingnian" than they are now, even though they are yet.

#111 The Shark

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 12:16 PM

Perhaps he'll be the new reference. Let's not forget he's the only actor who played Leiter twice in a row.


David Hedison played him in LIVE AND LET DIE and LICENSE TO KILL.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 12:31 PM

David Hedison played him in LIVE AND LET DIE and LICENSE TO KILL.


Yes I know, but Live and let die is the eighth James Bond film and Licence to kill the sixteenth. Hedison didn't play Leiter twice at a stretch, Wright did ; and he will probably be the only three-time-Leiter actor for a while.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 03:08 PM

Everyone's a person of colour.


I´m a bit blue right now ;) Better then black&blue I suppose :D I never liked being yella, and sometimes I get a bit red when something nice comes my way. The other day I got green with envy too. Bloody hell, right now I´m this stupid shade of pale cause the sun refuses to show its face.

Edited by univex, 12 June 2011 - 03:11 PM.


#114 Mr. Blofeld

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 03:15 AM

Erm... Naomie Harris is British, dear boy. :S

#115 blueman

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 10:06 AM

Erm... Naomie Harris is British, dear boy. :S

Now darn it, you went and spoiled a perfectly decent digression. Grrr.

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 05:01 PM

I see where you're coming from, Gravity. I may freak some folks out, but as an openly gay man, I'd rather see gay characters where their being gay is incidental to the story, like in "Tell No One," where there's a lesbian couple that's important to the plot, but their lesbianism isn't the issue and they could have just as easily been played as a man and a woman, or two men. I get tired of hand-wringing drama where everything turns on one's sexuality or skin color or what have you (although, to be fair, it can be an issue in real life, but it's not what I go to the movies for) and appreciate real diversity in the form of characters who just simply are what they are, have a role to play, and aren't demonized or canonized. They're allowed to simply exist and be acknowledged. (I hope I make sense...)

#117 blueman

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 06:57 PM

I hope she gets cast, good actress, lots of appeal.

#118 Vauxhall

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 12:21 AM

Not sure if it's been mentioned elsewhere but Naomie Harris appears to have confirmed in an interview with the Radio Times that she's been in discussions about the role.

Article courtesy of Sky News

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 01:54 AM

Thanks, Vauxhall. :tup:

Sounds like she's in if they want her, then.

#120 Guy Haines

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 05:43 AM

It's on Sky News Sunrise this morning. And in the Radio Times this week. So, I suppose its gone beyond the usual tabloid rumour stuff.