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#661 coco1997

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 01:03 AM

So what do we want to do for the post-PTS scenes?

Seems like the logical order of events, but I did suggest that we have a short scene before Bond goes to Japan wherein he'd bid farewell to Draco at his home in Sicily and apologize for missing his daughter's funeral.

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 01:53 AM


So what do we want to do for the post-PTS scenes?

Seems like the logical order of events, but I did suggest that we have a short scene before Bond goes to Japan wherein he'd bid farewell to Draco at his home in Sicily and apologize for missing his daughter's funeral.


I'm sure we can work that in. I'm wondering if, instead of Tokyo, we have Bond go to Osaka instead. I was looking for an interesting landmark that might be fun to use -

Umeda Sky building with Floating Garden Observatory

...amongst other things.

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 02:15 AM

Looks good. We should definitely make use of the other sights of Japan that weren't touched on (or in this case, did not exist ;)) in 1967. After switching things up a bit location-wise with the first few stories, we didn't really change the locations for "OHMSS", so here's an opportunity to re-locate things a bit again. :)

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 03:17 AM

Umeda Sky building with Floating Garden Observatory


Cool looking building. :tup:

Perhaps the Magic 44 villain could have offices there that Bond tries to break into?

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 03:30 AM


Umeda Sky building with Floating Garden Observatory


Cool looking building. :tup:

Perhaps the Magic 44 villain could have offices there that Bond tries to break into?


I don't know what other people had in mind, because the Wikileaks plot wasn't my idea, but I imagine something like Bond and Tanaka try to lure Magic44 (I assume that's his username?) into the open posing as buyers - we could add that the small amount of info he's exposed so far has only been a taste of what he has, and he's prepared to sell the rest. They meet at, say the Floating Garden Observatory, but the deal goes bad, leading into a Craig-esque action chase.

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 03:36 AM

I don't know what other people had in mind, because the Wikileaks plot wasn't my idea, but I imagine something like Bond and Tanaka try to lure Magic44 (I assume that's his username?) into the open posing as buyers - we could add that the small amount of info he's exposed so far has only been a taste of what he has, and he's prepared to sell the rest. They meet at, say the Floating Garden Observatory, but the deal goes bad, leading into a Craig-esque action chase.

Sounds great. :tup:

n00b-esque question, but who exactly was "Magic 44" in the original novel?

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 09:48 PM


I don't know what other people had in mind, because the Wikileaks plot wasn't my idea, but I imagine something like Bond and Tanaka try to lure Magic44 (I assume that's his username?) into the open posing as buyers - we could add that the small amount of info he's exposed so far has only been a taste of what he has, and he's prepared to sell the rest. They meet at, say the Floating Garden Observatory, but the deal goes bad, leading into a Craig-esque action chase.

Sounds great. :tup:

n00b-esque question, but who exactly was "Magic 44" in the original novel?


Haven't read it in a while, but IIRC he was some kind of Russian undercover informant

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 10:16 PM

Ok doke, that's what I had figured. :tup:

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 11:19 PM

OK here's something I wrote for the post-credits scenes. I haven't done any Bond/Draco scene yet, I thought I might slot that in after Bond leaves MI6.

-END TITLE SEQUENCE-

LONDON, MI6 HQ

M is meeting with James Molony, MI6's head doctor. They're discussing Bond's psychological state. M refers to a "disaster in Estonia" that she had to call in favors to cover up : "If it were anyone else, I'd fire them on the spot. But I know Bond's better than this". Molony suggests putting Bond out in the field again, it might snap him out of it.

From there, an establishing shot of 'Blades', a classy looking west end club.

Inside, Bond is at a poker table. But this isn't the smooth player we usually see dominating the tables. Stubbled, glassy-eyed, and a cigarette hanging out of his mouth. A card is flipped over, and Bond loses, scowling as chips are raked away from him. A fellow player, a beautiful woman, flirts with Bond; he all but ignores her.

Bond tries to play again but has no more chips. He asks for a line of credit and is informed he has already extended his credit once. About to protest further, Bond is interrupted by a tap on his shoulder - Bill Tanner.

Tanner - I thought I might find you here.
Bond - Ah, Bill, good man. Lend me a hundred, would you?
Tanner - I watched your last hand. Going in with a pair of threes? I don't think giving you a hundred is a wise investment.
Bond - How about a drink then?
Tanner - She wants to see you, James.
Bond - I'm on leave.
Tanner - So your little jaunt to Estonia was a holiday, was it? She's spent all weekend trying to cover that up.

Bond glowers at him and gets up.

MI6

Bond slouches in a chair in M's office. She tries to sympathize with him about Tracy but Bond is miles away. She says they have exhausted every lead on trying to locate Blofeld, but he has vanished. A thorough investigation of Kask's finances revealed no new leads : "You put that poor bugger in Estonia in the hospital for nothing!" she adds.

Changing her demeanour, she offers him an ultimatum - she won't stand for him continuing on indefinite leave - he can resign immediately or take a new assignment. Reluctantly, Bond agrees to the assignment. M briefs him on a leak of MI6 classified information onto the internet; they have tracked down the man responsible to Japan, he is known only by his username - Magic44. Bond is to go to Osaka and co-ordinate with the Japanese SS in catching him.

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 12:09 AM

Well done, dino. And yeah, I was picturing the scene in Sicily would be right before Bond heads off to Japan. :tup:

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 06:10 AM

Slightly off-topic, but what about Michael Pitt as Max Zorin?

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 08:29 AM

Slightly off-topic, but what about Michael Pitt as Max Zorin?


Interesting...he'd certainly be a youthful villain, but maybe that's the way to go with a new Zorin character - young internet entrepreneur/Mark Zuckerberg type software billionaire etc?

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 03:24 PM


Slightly off-topic, but what about Michael Pitt as Max Zorin?


Interesting...he'd certainly be a youthful villain, but maybe that's the way to go with a new Zorin character - young internet entrepreneur/Mark Zuckerberg type software billionaire etc?

Indeed--Walken was 42 years young to Roger's 58 when they did "AVTAK", while Pitt would be 31 to Craig's 44, so the age difference is similar enough.

I've seen him in "Boardwalk Empire" and he possesses an intense but quiet menace, which I'm sure is only going to develop further as the show progresses. And can't you just see a young Walken in his face? ;)

Dino, are you familiar enough with the "YOLT" novel to write the rest of the treatment, or do you need someone to plot out the basic events for you? If so, I'd happily oblige.

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 08:29 PM



Slightly off-topic, but what about Michael Pitt as Max Zorin?


Interesting...he'd certainly be a youthful villain, but maybe that's the way to go with a new Zorin character - young internet entrepreneur/Mark Zuckerberg type software billionaire etc?

Indeed--Walken was 42 years young to Roger's 58 when they did "AVTAK", while Pitt would be 31 to Craig's 44, so the age difference is similar enough.

I've seen him in "Boardwalk Empire" and he possesses an intense but quiet menace, which I'm sure is only going to develop further as the show progresses. And can't you just see a young Walken in his face? ;)

Dino, are you familiar enough with the "YOLT" novel to write the rest of the treatment, or do you need someone to plot out the basic events for you? If so, I'd happily oblige.


Yeah it helps that he's wearing Zorin-esque sunglasses in that pic, too. Anyway yeah I am familiar enough with YOLT, the second half anyway. Seems that not a whole lot happens in the first part of the novel, so I think its ripe for putting some extra action scenes in...

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 10:48 PM

SICILY

Bond returns to Draco's estate to apologize for not attending the funeral. Draco informs Bond his attempts to locate Blofeld through his Mafia-esque connections has been fruitless. Bond tells him he has to go to Japan for a few days on a routine assignment, and he will resume looking for Blofeld afterwards.

OSAKA, JAPAN

Bond's plane touches down at the tiny island Kansai airport. He is met there by Dikko Henderson, an eccentric Australian, who takes Bond to a bar/brothel in the Namba district, and explains to him that Bond's usual tactics and way of thinking aren't going to work here, he will have to understand the Japanese mentality if he's going to get anywhere here. Dikko offers to come with Bond to make sure there's no language barrier. At that moment, Dikko is confronted by a pair of gangster types who demand he pay off his gambling debts, or he'll lose a finger. Bond intervenes, and beats them up; he and Dikko quickly leave, with Bond quipping "I think we all understand each other just fine".

Henderson takes Bond to Osaka Castle where they meet 'Tiger' Tanaka, the head of the Japanese Secret Service. Tanaka is seen playing 'rock paper scissors' with another officer. Bond watches this curious spectacle, as Tiger introduces himself and invites Bond to play. Bond, muttering "When in Rome..." to Dikko, plays. He plays scissors twice. Tiger beats him both times with rock.

Tiger tells him "Your moves are predictable, Bond-san. Quick, and aggressive. The enemy will see you coming."

At his office in the castle, and over sake, Tiger explains that they have received word of Magic44 selling the rest of his files on the open market. He has offered to pay the asking price of $25 million, provided the man delivers the files in person. They receive word through untraceable email that the meeting is on for noon tomorrow at the Floating Garden Observatory.

TBC

---So for the next bit we'll be having an action scene leading to a Craig era chase. I wonder what kind of Japanese style antics we can work into that! Also I haven't thought about who or what Magic44 is yet. Should it be a traitor that Tanaka and/or Bond knows? Should it be Dikko? Or just a plain old villain?

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 04:52 AM

Good work so far. :) Regarding the identity of Magic44, the twist could be that it does turn out to be Dikko...After all, he is supposed to be Australian *cough*JulianAssange*cough*. ;)

Also, if you hadn't thought about it already, remember that we have to work in that crazy-looking bullet train I mentioned earlier!

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 11:38 AM

Magic 44 is a cipher code, not a Russian agent.

Also, I wanted to do the dialogue... guess as soon as I'm gone, you completely forget me. :(

I have a copy of the book; rather than relying on secondhand, why don't you let me do the honors?

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 05:32 PM

Magic 44 is a cipher code, not a Russian agent.

Also, I wanted to do the dialogue... guess as soon as I'm gone, you completely forget me. :(

I have a copy of the book; rather than relying on secondhand, why don't you let me do the honors?

Well, Matt, considering you disappeared for a few days, it seemed like the sensible thing to do was move forward. If you really wanted to write the dialogue so badly, wouldn't it have made sense to mention that you wouldn't be available for a couple days?

Re: dialogue, dino is not writing a script. It doesn't have to be loaded with dialogue.

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 06:26 PM

It was very sudden, Dave; I... well, I didn't have Internet access for a while. I couldn't really pop on here and say, "Hey, I've got no Internet" after I had no Internet, could I? :S

Dialogue is, perhaps, asking a bit too much... situations, at least? I don't want to see Dikko as any sort of traitor; he was completely misused in the '67 film.

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 07:03 PM

It was very sudden, Dave; I... well, I didn't have Internet access for a while. I couldn't really pop on here and say, "Hey, I've got no Internet" after I had no Internet, could I? :S

Dialogue is, perhaps, asking a bit too much... situations, at least? I don't want to see Dikko as any sort of traitor; he was completely misused in the '67 film.

Fair enough.

I say we let dino plot out the rest of the story (with input from yourself, tdalton and me, of course), and then perhaps afterwards, before I connect everything together, you can add in the dialogue you see fit?

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 07:46 PM

It was very sudden, Dave; I... well, I didn't have Internet access for a while. I couldn't really pop on here and say, "Hey, I've got no Internet" after I had no Internet, could I? :S

Dialogue is, perhaps, asking a bit too much... situations, at least? I don't want to see Dikko as any sort of traitor; he was completely misused in the '67 film.


Well what parts would you like to write? What ideas do you have etc.

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 07:59 PM

Basically, whatever's covered in the novel that we're using; I'd like to lift that dialogue, and whatever descriptions would fit with that, wholesale from Fleming's prose. Whatever we choose to change, I'm okay with, so long as it doesn't detract from the original Fleming framework.

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 09:03 PM

Basically, whatever's covered in the novel that we're using; I'd like to lift that dialogue, and whatever descriptions would fit with that, wholesale from Fleming's prose. Whatever we choose to change, I'm okay with, so long as it doesn't detract from the original Fleming framework.


Well like I said earlier, the first half of Fleming's YOLT doesn't feature a whole lot of action, it's basically just Bond, Dikko, and Tanaka having conversations, playing rock paper scissors and writing haikus, so I'm trying to Casino Royale it up a bit with some action and thrills.
Do you have any suggestions for who or what Magic44 is? I quite like the Dikko as a traitor idea, I had the notion that Bond and Tiger would not trust each other, but unmasking Dikko would help them to, er, bond...

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 05:13 AM

I believe Matt said he wanted to keep Dikko loyal to Bond but that he'd be fine with whatever the group decided.

EDIT: Also, who are we going to have as the 'boogiemen' who capture Bond at the end and send him after M in the beginning of "TMWTGG"? Obviously, Soviets are out of the question this time 'round.

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 10:08 AM

I believe Matt said he wanted to keep Dikko loyal to Bond but that he'd be fine with whatever the group decided.

EDIT: Also, who are we going to have as the 'boogiemen' who capture Bond at the end and send him after M in the beginning of "TMWTGG"? Obviously, Soviets are out of the question this time 'round.


Hmm...what else is close to Japan?

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I dunno, can anyone spot any countries that would work as 'boogiemen' anywhere here? ;)

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 04:23 PM

I like the way you think, dino. ;)

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 05:23 PM

Works for me... especially as the North Koreans have a storied history of kidnapping: http://en.wikipedia....ons_of_Japanese

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 09:27 PM

Yes and TMWTGG had Bond being brainwashed by a character called "Colonel Boris". Maybe we can call our new guy "Colonel Sun"!

So anyway for the next bit I had planned to have a chase/action scene in and around this Floating Observatory place. I'm going to have Magic44 as a Japanese dude who is presumably a fast runner and adept at action (casting ideas?), and reveal that he is working in tandem with Dikko, who has been attempting to sow mistrust between Bond and the Japanese and sabotage the buy. I haven't decided on what to do with Dikko, does he die, get arrested etc. Thoughts?

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 12:52 AM

I just want him to stay loyal; he does end up helping Bond in his first few nights. It's only when Tiger gets Bond's promise that he'll do anything to help the Japanese in exchange for Magic 44 that's he's whisked away into Tiger's trust... and that's one aspect of the book that I really like, and think we should keep. :)

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 01:44 AM

What do you mean by 'whisked away into Tiger's trust'?