Ultimate Bond : The Remakes
Posted 13 April 2011 - 03:51 AM
What are the specifics of Colonel Sun's and therefore Scaramanga's plan? He's not having intelligence chiefs killed for the hell of it, I presume. And how do we tie that into the human trafficking plot? Maybe someone who's got the Colonel Sun novel on hand can help with this.
Posted 13 April 2011 - 03:54 AM
Posted 13 April 2011 - 04:00 AM
I suggested he be the minor villain of the story and be the one in charge of the human trafficking subplot.
What does Colonel Sun have to do with it?
Posted 13 April 2011 - 04:19 AM
What his goal is I haven't quite figured out, but there's Chinese financing in a lot of Western places at the moment due to the economic crisis. They control most of Greece's main port, for instance. Maybe a political and therefore economic meltdown in the Middle East opens the way for the Chinese 'saviours' to swoop in and buy up the region's oil-rich assets.
Human trafficking could be Sun's sideline, his financial support and Bond's first step in tracking him down. Sabotaging the conference is Sun's real endgame. When Scaramanga figures this out, he can off Sun and take over the plan by himself, negotiating with the Chinese for sizeable payment to sabotage the conference. Or something. I don't know, the more I write, the more I think I'd rather use this plot for something else. I don't want to make Sun too major a figure.
As for Andrea's new last name, how about Alvarez to keep the alliteration? Alternatively, in looking this up I came across an interesting titbit - all Cuban boys raised in the national orphanage of Cuba were named Valdez, after the founder. In reality it was only Cuban males who got this surname, but we can broaden it for the story. It would be an interesting thing for the knowledgeable Bond to pick up on, useful for Bond when he's trying to turn her. Or it could be Julio's last name - an orphanage runaway, street rat, moulded and seduced by Scaramanga.
Edited by SamuelKevlar, 13 April 2011 - 04:20 AM.
Posted 13 April 2011 - 04:24 AM
However, as you pointed out, I think the Colonel Sun plot might be too complex and would stray too far away from the plot of the original story. Alternatively, we could just revert the character back to Hai Fat and try to simplify his motives.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 07:18 AM
Just putting this idea forward as a different perspective on the story. I don't really understand where the human trafficking subplot fits into the story. My suggestion would be to strip away all of the subplots (but I feel like if we need a subplot, that it should be revolving around some kind of natural resource since the novel revolved around one) and simply focus on Bond being sent to kill Scaramanga (or, more specifically, that M designs the mission as sending Bond to his death) and the ensuing battle between the two as they try to take the other out.
The human trafficking was something I suggested as a substitute "business" for Scaramanga to be running, instead of the sugar trade from the novel, which isn't much of a threat for a modern Bond film. It doesn't have to be the focus of the plot, much like Dominic Greene's water scheme was not the focus of QOS, but its something that fits in with the Caribbean locale and works as a reason for Scaramanga to hire Bond as a bodyguard.
Posted 13 April 2011 - 05:43 PM
dino's idea - The story more of less follows the plot of the book, except that the sugar cartel subplot is replaced with human trafficking.
tdalton's idea - We strip away all of the MacGuffin subplots of the original book/movie and have the story solely centered around a showdown between the greatest marksmen on Earth.
SamKevlar's idea - Bond and Scaramanga are both secret operatives of their respective intelligence agencies who are initially assigned to a mission together (possibly involving human trafficking and/or disrupting a conference on Middle East peace talks) before Scaramanga double crosses Bond, offs Colonel Sun and tries to take over the plan himself.
Of these three ideas, is there a compromise we can reach that can make everyone happy?
Posted 13 April 2011 - 08:48 PM
Still, I like the idea of being wrong-footed as to who the villain is, so if we can get that in there somewhere that would be great. And I definitely feel that if we start the film with a brainwashed Bond we have to address that somewhere along the line, at the very least in a subplot. Not just in characterisation either (other peoples' lack of trust in him, his own uncertainties, headaches, delusions, etc) but also in narrative (Scaramanga using Bond as a scapegoat, the people behind the brainwashing revealed). Bond trying to kill M would be the most shocking PTS ever done - that has to carry through to the rest of the film. Otherwise it would be like doing DAF after OHMSS and not having it be about Tracy's death. Hmmm...
Oh, and I always found the idea of Scaramanga taking Bond on as a bodyguard utterly unconvincing. I tried to include the 'feeling' of it a bit in my idea of them teaming up for a mission initially - it equally does the trick of giving them scenes together before going all-out to kill each other, while discarding the problem of Scaramanga trusting a guy he's only barely met.
Posted 13 April 2011 - 08:59 PM
Posted 13 April 2011 - 09:19 PM
But these things are collaborative and I don't think we've yet had enough input from others to start properly structuring the tale (besides the bare-bones version you did a few posts back, for which my thanks). Besides, my ideas for TMWTGG are chiefly character-based. I mostly came out of retirement for that character, because I've always had ideas on how to 'fix' him.
Add to that the issue of time - I have my own treatments to write.
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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:08 PM
I also did one for THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS ... but that would have gone for about six hours.
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