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[Mister E]

Things I'd love to see....

• Camille making a cameo BUT not as the main Bond girl: Maybe her and Bond could date for a while but realise the relationship is not going to work and they go their seperate ways.

Please please no. This isn't Sex & The City.........

No dating but I would like to see Camille to return just to see how she is doing.

yep, she can be working at Hot Dog on a Stick"

With today's economy, she'll have to work at Starbucks too.

[Quantumofsolace007]

today's things i want (it changes from time to time lol)

1. Craig's bond to be in an american city because honestly the last time we got any loval american flavour it was Licence to kill I think 007 in today's Washington DC or new york would be interesting
2. Ski Chase (just because i feel every 007 should have at least one but unlike twine Craig's ski chase should feel important and integral to the plot rather than "hey we haven't done a ski chase in a while so enjoy")
3. Quantum (why cause they are a cool orgnization just not the head of quantum)
4. Unused locations (canada Australia Rome etc)
5. Fleming Characters (Fidle Barbery, Ultric Von Hammerstien sprng brothers Gala brand etc)
6. Rock Theme
7. Fleming title (right now they all are cool but i'll go with The hildebrand Rarity or possibly Risico or maybe Property of a lady)
8. Quantum being two steps ahead of Bond similar to how they were in Quantum
9. Great action
10. Great dailogue




Sincerly

a psyched and happy bond fan

[tdalton]

A couple more:

• A truly deranged villain that Bond actually fears. I don't think that we've ever had a villain (and perhaps there has been but I'm just having trouble remembering) that Bond has truly been afraid of to some degree. I think that would be an interesting to see on screen, and Craig is the right actor for such a scenario. I think that it would certainly be interesting and different to have a villain in a Bond film that we really didn't know what he or she was going to do next, and have the villain do things that might not even make all that much sense. There could be a lot of potential with this kind of villain, and it would be very much different from any villain we've seen before in a Bond film.
• A location that we haven't seen before in a Bond film. I remember being very excited about the prospect of Bond going to Africa, which was where Casino Royale was to have taken place at one point during the pre-production. Perhaps that could be a good location for Bond 23.

[Ultraussie (Jordan.adams)]

Like Jodie Foster. 45 years old. But waitta minute, we dont need Lesbian actresses, we need Lesbian Bond girls!!!!!

[quantumofsolace]

Not sure about Saffron Burrows.She´d be more interested in gettin M´s kist off than Bond,if you know what I mean.

I noticed that when I researched her on IMDB.com, but chose not to mention it initially. I was surprised to find out that not only was she a Vagitarian, but that her girlfriend is 14 years older than her, and not very attractive. Why do hot lesbians not date other hot lesbians? I don't get it. Cynthia Nixon leaves her boyfriend for a woman that looks like an ugly man, is 100 pounds overweight, and hasn't met a flannel shirt or pair of blue jeans she doesn't like.

Nonetheless, I don't have a problem with Burrows being a Bond Girl. Plenty of lesbian actresses have passes as heterosexual, and plenty of homosexual actors have played convincing straight characters on screen. I don't really mind the orientation of the actor or actress as much as I would object to the orientation of the character. Bond must remain heterosexual and white and male.

I agree that he should remain heterosexual and male and I would add to that British, but I don't see why he should have to be white if the stories are continued to be told in the present time.

[Dainshdude118]

1) An involving and clever storyline
2) A character driven script
3) The Bond theme in the biggest set piece of the film, hint at it a bit more strongly in other places.
4) The same dry humour as QOS
5) More Leiter, Tanner, Villers and the Foreign Secretary
6) A conventional car chase with Bond chasing the bad guy
7) Give Dench's M some form of closure
8) Bring back Camille in a small role, kind of the size of what Fileds did in QOS

[Qbranchtech]

1. Bond being human again

2. Gun barrel at the beginning

3. A thoughtful script with clear motivation for all characters

4. Character development for people aside from Bond and M

5. I don't mind having a secondary Bond girl, but please have her be part of the story. Give her something meaningful to do

6. Also, I don't mind killing the secondary Bond girl again either (Craig-Bond is 2 for 2 in this area), but please have her death be cool yet meaningful

7. Quantum

8. Q and Moneypenny, in a refreshing manner

9. A bit more skin and sex, please

10. More humor, double entendre

11. A suave, knowledgeable Bond that is well versed in many things

[Innukchuck]

- A more experienced, but still a little imature and hot-headed James Bond

- Martin Campbell directiing.

- Casino Royale's crew back.

- Quantum's return and more details about who they are and how they work.

- Felix Leiter's return, and as a importante part of the plot.

- The Gunbarrel back in the beginning.

- A ski chase.

- A motorbike chase.

- A new Boat chase.

- A new Car chase.

- A main Bond Girl that can equal Bond, but it's still feminine and attractive.

- A secondary Bond girl with a classic feel, like a good "damsel em distress".

- An interresting, complex, manipulative, disgusting Villain. Someone whe'd love to hate.

- A tough henchmen, like Donald "Red" Grant or Stamper, who Bond can have a fight with.

- "Shaken, not stirred".

- "Bond, James Bond".

- Daniel Craig, Rory Kinnear, Jeffrey Wright, Judi Dench and Jesper Christensen.

Edited by Innukchuck, 22 November 2008 - 06:24 PM.

[Richard]

1. A literate screenplay written by a professional screen writer who knows how. Nothing is more important.

2. A gruff no-nonsense male M who stays put in the London office and doesn't make neurotic feminist speeches.

3. A female Miss Moneypenny who flirts with Bond, covers for him, and sasses him back. Let them be platonic friends with perhaps a sexual history instead of sarcastic combatants.

4. Restore civility between the male hero and female characters. No more "sexist misogynist dinosaur" lectures. A James Bond film is not the place to fight a gender war, and I want it stopped.

5. A traditional romance between Bond and his female lead. Let there be wit, attraction, sex appeal, and a healthy appreciation for female beauty as well as female intelligence. Please, no further morality judgments from M every time consenting adults have sex. Time to grow up.

6. Put the gun barrel logo back at the beginning, where it belongs.

7. Apply the James Bond Theme over the main action. It is the most rousing score in the history of cinema. The last two films were diminished by its absence. Using it as a main title theme is preferable to the risible songs in the last two films. Saving it for the end titles is too little too late.

8. Maintain the dramatic minimalism with its emotional tensions, the realistic stunts, the believable villains, and the down-to-earth scale. This is progress, and a good change.

9. Try to find the right balance between the downbeat noir thrillers Ian Fleming wrote and the upbeat cinematic adventure. This is largely a matter of writing, and a gifted writer will have no trouble getting there.

10. Wit and humor are always appreciated, but please, no farce, silliness, camp, or broad comedy. No science-fiction either. Austin Powers ridiculed this facet of the series out of the realm of possibility.

11. Outrageous gadgets used to get a big laugh in the theaters (I was there), but not anymore. Let's keep it the way you have it now.

I'll post more as I think of them.

[Mr. Smart]

A lot of interesting posts in this topic, but here's a few things I'd like to see in future Bond movies:

*Use a traditional gunbarrel sequence at the beginning of the film.
*Keep Daniel Craig as James Bond. He's been surprisingly good so far.
*If they don't think they can use any more Fleming titles, start adapting novels by other authors.
*Bring back John Cleese as Q. If not Cleese, see if Hugh Laurie is available.
*Use the traditional James Bond theme in the score more often. The limited use in Casino Royale and Quantum Of Solace worked in the context of Bond's transformation, but by now I think he's earned the theme music.
*There's nothing wrong with Judi Dench, but I'd welcome a new M. Could even be a way to bring Connery back into the franchise.
*Bring back Bond's arch-nemesis, Ernst Stavro Blofeld.

Edited by Mr. Smart, 22 November 2008 - 08:16 PM.

[Mr. Smart]

If we're thinking somebody younger for Q, Simon Pegg would be my choice.

[Tybre]

Long as we're on Q, I say take the character back to Boothroyd. The real Boothroyd. Make Q a Scot.

[Zorin Industries]

If we're thinking somebody younger for Q, Simon Pegg would be my choice.

God no. Awful idea.

[DamnCoffee]

*Casino Royale and Quantum Of Solace worked in the context of Bond's transformation, but by now I think he's earned the theme music.

*There's nothing wrong with Judi Dench, but I'd welcome a new M.

Agreed on both points.

I'd love to see M arrested under suspicion of treason or something, and be replaced by a male M. Alan Rickman would be fantastic.

[double o ego]

I want to talk about the gadgets.

Now, I'm all for realsim but seeing as it's Bond...cinematic Bond, there are some staples that must remain or at least need to return but to a respectable and credible degree.

That being said, I don't want Bond using all these outlandish OTT gadgets, he should be using something practical, something useful and discrete.

I was watching spooks the other day, (fantastic show) and funilly enough, in its hour long episode, it felt like a superior version of QoS. In this case, tha natural resource was gas that was running out, in which the British had to either make a deal with the Russians or some other easter European country, along with other shinanigans that was going on but lets just say, had this been fleshed out into a feature length movie, add some foreign locations and have Bond in it, it probably would have been one of the best Bond films ever made.
Anyway, back on topic, the show introduces many useful gadgets and the one used in this episode, was a voice recorder/camera installed into one of the MI5 agents' watch. Now, reading this, it may sound basic but watching it in action is an entirely different matter. It actually adds suspense and tension as the MI5 agent obviously has to be close by,near the enemy all the while trying to remain obscure and somewhat insignificant. It's these sort of practical inginuities that make the gadgets work and are executed extremely well and I think would do the Bond movies a massive service.

[PPK_19]

I want to talk about the gadgets.

Now, I'm all for realsim but seeing as it's Bond...cinematic Bond, there are some staples that must remain or at least need to return but to a respectable and credible degree.

That being said, I don't want Bond using all these outlandish OTT gadgets, he should be using something practical, something useful and discrete.

I was watching spooks the other day, (fantastic show) and funilly enough, in its hour long episode, it felt like a superior version of QoS. In this case, tha natural resource was gas that was running out, in which the British had to either make a deal with the Russians or some other easter European country, along with other shinanigans that was going on but lets just say, had this been fleshed out into a feature length movie, add some foreign locations and have Bond in it, it probably would have been one of the best Bond films ever made.
Anyway, back on topic, the show introduces many useful gadgets and the one used in this episode, was a voice recorder/camera installed into one of the MI5 agents' watch. Now, reading this, it may sound basic but watching it in action is an entirely different matter. It actually adds suspense and tension as the MI5 agent obviously has to be close by,near the enemy all the while trying to remain obscure and somewhat insignificant. It's these sort of practical inginuities that make the gadgets work and are executed extremely well and I think would do the Bond movies a massive service.

I saw that episode of Spooks too, though i wouldn't go as far as to say it was superior to QOS. But then again i take it you weren't a fan then?
Anyway, i see what you're saying Double o Ego, a practical gadget would be good, something simple and basic that isn't unrealistic.
As much as i love CR, the portable defibrillator really didn't do it for me in terms of being a 'gadget'.

[danslittlefinger]

A major "leg over" scene with a decent actress.

[DJR007]

Mention earlier of 'YES' doing the title song for Bond 23. Interesting choice, I'm a YES fan myself and I think Vangelis would probably do something incredible for Bond. It would be good to hear what they could come up with.

Apaprt from that I think everything else is mentioned apart from Istanbul as a location again. I love Istanbul :-)

[double o ego]

I want to talk about the gadgets.

Now, I'm all for realsim but seeing as it's Bond...cinematic Bond, there are some staples that must remain or at least need to return but to a respectable and credible degree.

That being said, I don't want Bond using all these outlandish OTT gadgets, he should be using something practical, something useful and discrete.

I was watching spooks the other day, (fantastic show) and funilly enough, in its hour long episode, it felt like a superior version of QoS. In this case, tha natural resource was gas that was running out, in which the British had to either make a deal with the Russians or some other easter European country, along with other shinanigans that was going on but lets just say, had this been fleshed out into a feature length movie, add some foreign locations and have Bond in it, it probably would have been one of the best Bond films ever made.
Anyway, back on topic, the show introduces many useful gadgets and the one used in this episode, was a voice recorder/camera installed into one of the MI5 agents' watch. Now, reading this, it may sound basic but watching it in action is an entirely different matter. It actually adds suspense and tension as the MI5 agent obviously has to be close by,near the enemy all the while trying to remain obscure and somewhat insignificant. It's these sort of practical inginuities that make the gadgets work and are executed extremely well and I think would do the Bond movies a massive service.

I saw that episode of Spooks too, though i wouldn't go as far as to say it was superior to QOS. But then again i take it you weren't a fan then?
Anyway, i see what you're saying Double o Ego, a practical gadget would be good, something simple and basic that isn't unrealistic.
As much as i love CR, the portable defibrillator really didn't do it for me in terms of being a 'gadget'.

I liked QoS but there were just too many elemets lacking in it and one such element being a sense of suspense, which this episode of spooks had a lot of but yeah, the gadget watch was pretty nifty.

[double o ego]

double post

[double o ego]

bloody double post.

[Guy Haines]

Here goes:-

1. A large scale story - not a space epic or a "destroy the world in order to save it" plot but something in the order of, say, Thunderball. Quantum (if it is indeed the villain of choice next time round) using its terrorist proxies to threaten the world with nuclear or some other WMD type of blackmail, or attempting to provoke a limited regional war in order to profit from cleaning up the mess afterwards.

(The last point is not original, I know - it was the story arc of the last series of "Spooks", and I thought when watching it that the Bond screenwriters should have used that idea first).

2. If "Q" does return, I hope he's not played as Bond's grumpy but lovable old uncle. Something nearer Desmond Llewelyn's first few portrayals would be better. As for who should play him, get the right actor rather than a "name".

3. Give Jeffrey Wright more lines as Felix Leiter, if indeed he appears in the next film. There's no point in hiring a good actor if you give him little to do.

4. The humour was pitched at the right level in Casino Royale - keep it that way. The tired double entendres and double takes should be a thing of the past.

5. We should see the first leading lady to bed Craig's Bond and actually make it through to the final reel alive (think about it - the only survivor so far is Camille).

6. And we should see Bond personally eliminate his arch adversary -although if Quantum is involved again I wouldn't be surprised if we see Mr White acting as the grim reaper as yet another Quantum scheme goes the same way as those of SPECTRE.

(it's an odd track record for this James Bond - no girl he has slept with has survived, but he has yet to kill an arch villain, unless you consider his "kind to be cruel" gesture to Dominic Greene in QoS to be as good as bumping him off!)

7. Music - this John Barry fan is quite content with David Arnold but I would like a theme song that is a bit nearer the classic style of the earlier films.

8. No cheesy ending or scenes. Definitely not. They wouldn't work with this Bond.In fact I'd like an ending which hints that, if his adversary is Quantum, then his victory is only temporary (in other words, Mr White is still at large!)

[tdalton]

unless you consider his "kind to be cruel" gesture to Dominic Greene in QoS to be as good as bumping him off!)

I consider that scene to be much more effective than just having Bond quickly deal with Greene and then having him move on. I think that Bond in QOS gave Greene a sentence worse than death, which was first of all the glimmer of hope that Bond gave him that he would survive if he gave Bond information which then followed that what he actually got was to be placed in the middle of the desert, knowing that he was going to die, with the can of oil Bond gave him serving as something that could only make the situation worse. I actually think that this is the best villain death in the entire franchise. It might actually be the most cruel we've ever seen Bond in all of the films.

[The Shark]

This I want to see in Bond 23?

- A new composer first and foremost. David Arnold just doesn't cut it.

[Guy Haines]

unless you consider his "kind to be cruel" gesture to Dominic Greene in QoS to be as good as bumping him off!)

I consider that scene to be much more effective than just having Bond quickly deal with Greene and then having him move on. I think that Bond in QOS gave Greene a sentence worse than death, which was first of all the glimmer of hope that Bond gave him that he would survive if he gave Bond information which then followed that what he actually got was to be placed in the middle of the desert, knowing that he was going to die, with the can of oil Bond gave him serving as something that could only make the situation worse. I actually think that this is the best villain death in the entire franchise. It might actually be the most cruel we've ever seen Bond in all of the films.

Actually, I agree with you about this. In the context of what Greene had done in the film - particularly his responsibility for the deaths of Rene Mathis and Strawberry Fields - leaving him in the desert with just a can of motor oil for company was apt.

All I would say though is that this Bond has to be allowed by the screenwriters to get his hands dirty and finish off an arch adversary himself at some point. Even the gentlemanly Roger Moore - who never seemed comfortable with the "licence to kill" side of Bond - got a few villainous notches on his Walther PPK. Daniel Craig's interpretation is of an implacable, ruthless Bond well suited to exercising his licence to kill.

[tdalton]

unless you consider his "kind to be cruel" gesture to Dominic Greene in QoS to be as good as bumping him off!)

I consider that scene to be much more effective than just having Bond quickly deal with Greene and then having him move on. I think that Bond in QOS gave Greene a sentence worse than death, which was first of all the glimmer of hope that Bond gave him that he would survive if he gave Bond information which then followed that what he actually got was to be placed in the middle of the desert, knowing that he was going to die, with the can of oil Bond gave him serving as something that could only make the situation worse. I actually think that this is the best villain death in the entire franchise. It might actually be the most cruel we've ever seen Bond in all of the films.

Actually, I agree with you about this. In the context of what Greene had done in the film - particularly his responsibility for the deaths of Rene Mathis and Strawberry Fields - leaving him in the desert with just a can of motor oil for company was apt.

All I would say though is that this Bond has to be allowed by the screenwriters to get his hands dirty and finish off an arch adversary himself at some point. Even the gentlemanly Roger Moore - who never seemed comfortable with the "licence to kill" side of Bond - got a few villainous notches on his Walther PPK. Daniel Craig's interpretation is of an implacable, ruthless Bond well suited to exercising his licence to kill.

Agreed. It would be appropriate, given the intensity and ruthlessness of Craig's portrayal, to have him dispatch a main villain with the same intensity that he dispatched Fischer in the PTS of Casino Royale. That was one of the more effective scenes in the entire franchise, so having him take out a main villain in a similar style would be something that should (and most likely will) happen on screen during at least one of the next couple of films.

[dinovelvet]

I like the Hugh Laurie suggestion, though I could also see a much younger, more technically hip version of Q working as well. Maybe bring in an Asian actor in the mold of Jerry Yang, or modeled after young entrepreneurs like the founders of Facebook, Google, and MySpace. Why does Q necessarily have to be an older man? Hmmm..why does Q even have to be a man? Maybe bring in Q'ute from the Gardner novels. On second though, that's probably a bad idea.

I agree that a new Q should be younger. It's alright to have an older man when he's doling out things like a trick suitcase or keychain, but it doesn't ring true to have an old fuddy duddy handing Bond the latest hi-tech cellphone and then blurting out a stream of technobabble. I'd cast Mackenzie Crook, Peter Serafinowicz, or David Walliams, or any two of them. Have a two Q double act.

[jamie00007]

- More of Bond's naval background. I want him to be referred to as 'Commander' and maybe even have a scene with him in uniform. Needs to be called '007' more too.

- A simple plot. Something like Thunderball.

- A femme fatale. Been too long since the last good one. I would love to see Craig's Bond involved with a Fiona Volpe styled villainess.

- A more leisurely, less intense film. I love the last two films, but Im in the mood for a little lighter Bond film this time around. Lets see some more of Bond enjoying the good life on his mission and having some fun. Something tonally along the lines of Thunderball or Dr No.

- A climax with Bond leading a commando assault on a villains lair. Been too long since we've seen Bond in action like that.

Edited by jamie00007, 06 February 2010 - 04:34 AM.

[Publius]

- A climax with Bond leading a commando assault on a villains lair. Been too long since we've seen Bond in action like that.

I'm all for that, but in keeping with the theme of Craig's era, it'd probably be best to keep it a small force, say no more than a dozen men, half of whom would end up sacrificial lambs.

[danslittlefinger]

A release date for Bond 24?