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#151 oatesy

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 05:29 PM

Oh more stuff from yolt. :)


Well it's better then CR ... One thing is for sure people will be impressed by Craig all over again. He is truly stunning. Way way way better then anything he's ever done before.


This is all we need to know. After his extraordinary performance in CR I was worried that the producers would decide that we'd seen Bond develop to the Bond we already knew by the end of CR and from then onwards there would be little character development for Craig to get his teeth into :(

#152 DamnCoffee

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 05:31 PM

I wonder if Craig insisted that Bond needs more CD. :(

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 05:36 PM

I wonder if Craig insisted that Bond needs more CD. :(


Was there not a recent interview where they hinted that Haggis' October draft was not really complete and that Craig/Forster worked on the script post-Haggis? (although this maybe just PR puff)

From his CR performance it was clear he fully understands the Fleming Bond, and it is great if he is getting this level of influence

#154 Marketto007

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 05:47 PM

Well, next week we're going to have the new trailer, so we will see some of this scenes that YOLT mentioned.

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#155 The Dove

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 06:03 PM

No doubt whatsoever in my mind now that YOLT's posts are genuine, since a lot of what he describes we see in some of the behind the scenes videos we've seen online. My excitement level for this movie has now shot up to 10+ (it was at a 8, but only because I didn't want to over excite myself!!) :) :(

#156 Blonde Bond

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 06:36 PM

Bond-gasm!

My excitement level has gone through the roof too. Can't wait.
If this is really true, I will be a happy camper. I mean really happy.

#157 DamnCoffee

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 06:41 PM

I really cannot believe that I am spoiling this for myself. :( I have an addiction! :)

Well, I spoiled Casino Royale for myself and I still had goosebumps in the theatre. It doesn't actually bother me If I know what happens, it's if they do it right that concerns me. :)

#158 JimmyBond

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 06:48 PM

I really cannot believe that I am spoiling this for myself. :) I have an addiction! :).


No matter how much I read here I don't think I'll ever spoil myself as much as I did on CR...when I read the actual script! :(

It's one thing to know what happens, it's another thing to watch it actually play out in the film. I think everyone who's worried they read this should keep that in mind.

#159 Sir James Moloney

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 06:51 PM

I really cannot believe that I am spoiling this for myself. :( I have an addiction! :).

Well, I spoiled Casino Royale for myself and I still had goosebumps in the theatre. It doesn't actually bother me If I know what happens, it's if they do it right that concerns me. :)


Yep, for me too. I read CR´s script, all the spoilers, saw all the pics, all the paparazzi shots, listned to the soundtrack, ... and I still had those goosebumps.

#160 Eddie Burns

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 06:59 PM

As excited as one can be!

What worries me is Forster. I don't want a Marc Forster film...I want a Bond film influenced by Forster's direction. I could very well be wrong, and we could perhaps have a great film on our hands. However, too much emotion heavy stuff worries me. As long as its kept beneath the surface, sub-conscious, instead of ramming it down our throats (something that irked me about the overrated TDK). However, I doubt thats Forster's style.

I'm surprised he hasn't mentioned anything about the sets, whether they were successful in re-creating Ken Adam, as well as the look and feel of the movie. How does it differ from CR and why isn't it classically Bond? Isn't this what they were aiming for anyway?

#161 Harmsway

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 07:09 PM

Oh more stuff from yolt. :(

Well it's better then CR. Though it isn't classically Bond. Not to say it lacks anything. It feels like a Marc Forster movie.

All of that has me really excited. QUANTUM OF SOLACE "isn't classically Bond"? Terrific.

#162 DamnCoffee

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 07:11 PM

I shall repost this as it was over shadowed by my later IMDb post. :)

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Got this of IMBb...


Opera Music plays out throughout and they cut back now and then. It all adds to the suspence of the scene.



Sounds good. :(

Now that he talked about the opera scene I don't think that it's fake.

Especially this scenes tells me, that he tells the truth:

"The really cool Bondian moment is when Bond steals a rather baggy tux off a costume rail, only to find the Quantum guy with the ear piece he steals, and looks t his body and sees his tux will likely fit better."

As you know I was an extra in austria. And a roommate in the hostel I stayed, was in that scene, where Bond steals the tuxedo. You can only know about that specific little scene when you were there OR when you actually saw the movie.
So I think, imdb-yolt saw the movie.


I actually like the sound of this scene. It sound's like it could be quite light hearted, which is really good considering the overall dark tone of the movie. I am gonna get blasted for saying this but this scene really should be a accompanied by a really playful Bond theme, like when Lupe helps Bond escape in Licence to Kill. :)

When Bond rises out of the water hanging onto the boat, the Bond theme playing over the piece is just utter magic.

#163 Eddie Burns

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 07:12 PM

Harms,

How is that terrific if thats what they were intending? Unless they only meant the look and feel of the movie.

#164 Harmsway

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 07:30 PM

Harms,

How is that terrific if thats what they were intending?

Um, I don't think it was. Forster has talked in interviews about how much EON wanted to push where Bond was taken in CASINO ROYALE even further, not to make a return to "safe" territory, and how he was interested in tackling that.

Sure, Forster's talked about recapturing some of the early Bond essence, but he mentioned that it hearkened back to the visuals of the very early Connery films. And I see that in the trailer for QUANTUM OF SOLACE... there's that grit there that was present in the very early Connery Bond films, along with a bit of the stylized interiors. I see a lot of DR. NO and FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE, which took place in a lot of less-than-glamorous locales along the way. But I don't really think the style of those films is the one folks associate with "classic Bond."

And regardless of what they intended, I don't really want a "classically Bond" adventure. CASINO ROYALE was about as "classic Bond" as I want this new Craig era to get. It relied on the iconography as much as I could care for... now it's time to branch out. To do new things. Indeed, if they did intend to make a safe, return-to-form Bond adventure, I hope the result isn't what they intended to be. If QUANTUM OF SOLACE really does branch out and do something exciting, I'm a happy camper.

#165 Mister E

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 07:36 PM

QOS feels like it captures "Classic Bond" but not GOLDFINGER onward but more like the first two Bond films. I am sick and tired of trying to repeat the success of one film, QOS would hopefully mark the end of fomulaic Bonds, at least for a while.

#166 DamnCoffee

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 08:29 PM



The process is done by random selecting. i've been to test screening before with places like Sony etc. So I get an invite telling me I can see the new action film. The only one on the net is QOS. So I turn up in antipication I'll see that. But either way It was a free ticket.

How does Greene actually kill Camille?

Simply, he shoots her in the chest. It's quite quick and loud. But is really effective, all her effort throughout the film, and bang, she's gone.

What is Craigs stance in the Gunbarrel?

More similar to Brosnan to memory. But it only lasted a second, and it was the forst few seconds. But that is what I recall thinking.

How does Mathis die?

Bond is pulled over by the police. He is told to get out of the car. It soon becomes clear these police men work for Quantum, and Mathis is shot. Bond deals with them as they try to escape.

How does Elvis Die?

Plane crash.

What are the end credits like? MK12 have a thing with colourful end credits.
Credits were not complete. Check orginal review.



Ouch Brosnan Gunbarrel pose!

#167 Conlazmoodalbrocra

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 08:33 PM

Why can't I resist reading these! I usually hate spoilers!

#168 DamnCoffee

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 08:36 PM

I think it's because most of us are debating whether these are true or not! :(

#169 Conlazmoodalbrocra

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 08:39 PM

Yeah, but I'm 99.9% sure that this is true, and even then, I read on! I'm mad I tell you! At least in 2 months I can put my fears to rest!

#170 DamnCoffee

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 08:44 PM

It's true, no question. Either this guy has seen to movie or he is a genius, the amount of detail he has put into this. It's corresponded with everything we have heard so far, no plot holes at all. It's true, it has to be.

#171 Col. Sun

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 08:47 PM

It's true, no question. Either this guy has seen to movie or he is a genius, the amount of detail he has put into this. It's corresponded with everything we have heard so far, no plot holes at all. It's true, it has to be.


YES, IT'S TRUE! How much do u all need to GET IT! He HAS seen the film! GET IT?

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 08:49 PM

Ouch Brosnan Gunbarrel pose!


After six different takes on it (including Simmons), is there really any original way to turn and shoot a gun?

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 08:53 PM

I must to stop with reading too much spoilers! I haven't read the full review, but there are some things that sounds good, but also things that doesn't. By the way, I can't wait to see the gunbarrel!

#174 DamnCoffee

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 08:53 PM

Ouch Brosnan Gunbarrel pose!


After six different takes on it (including Simmons), is there really any original way to turn and shoot a gun?



Well yes, there are many original ways, thing is... Brosnans is NOT original. :) :(

#175 JimmyBond

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 08:58 PM

He's turning and firing a gun, how complicated should it be. The only criticism I have of Brosnan's stance is that he's a bit stiff. Just because this guy says it's similar to Brosnan's stance doesnt mean much.

Besides, I'm more interested to see what MK12 come up with for the gunbarrel than I am for the actual pose itself, which in my opinion is rather incidental.

#176 DamnCoffee

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 09:04 PM

I remember reading something somewhere that it would be quite impossible for Bond to turn and fire a gun with a similar stance to Brosnans. I think it was something to do with his balance, he was standing upright, he needed a better stance, that's why Connery's was believable because he has his arm out, Lazenby's bacause he was one one knee, Moore's because he used two hands, Dalton was slightly bent, Craig's was extremely fast.

#177 Mister E

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 09:06 PM

He's turning and firing a gun, how complicated should it be. The only criticism I have of Brosnan's stance is that he's a bit stiff. Just because this guy says it's similar to Brosnan's stance doesnt mean much.


I had more of a problem that Brosnan was just too fast. The whole point of the gunbarrel is for Bond to see the shooter at the last minute. When you do it too fast, it seems like you knew he was there the whole time.

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 09:06 PM

Correction, Moore's first stance was good. From TSWLM on Moore's turn is so slow even a old lady could get the drop on him :(

#179 DamnCoffee

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 09:07 PM

Well the guy was an OAP. So it's a battle between an old man and an old woman! :(

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 09:14 PM

Correction, Moore's first stance was good. From TSWLM on Moore's turn is so slow even a old lady could get the drop on him :(


I don't agree. Moore clumsily handled the gun in his first two gunbarrels:



He tries to steady the gun but notice it's as almost as if he knocks his own aim off.



Now this one used for TSWLM onward was perfect. The right time and held the gun properly and hit his mark.