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[Vauxhall]

What we can add to the M situation is that she appears to already be in Bolivia by the time that Bond has returned from the middle of the desert with Camille after the plane attack, suggesting she was already planning on flying out, and perhaps that she discovers the body.

[BoogieBond]

I am still thinking this is mostly true. I agree the fates of Elvis and Camille cast doubt onto this, but some of the other stuff seems to be spot on. Just 2 weeks to Go.

[Quantumofsolace007]

well if it's based on what we already know of course it's "Mostly true"


we'll know in 2 weeks

[ForMathis]

CM007 said he saw a screening in the "Daniel Craig interview with first film clips" thread. Didn't give much information, just said the movie was very Bourne.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Honestly I juust had an idea.

I feel if bond quits at the end we may have an interesting take on the "do the mission" with out it getting personal


What if Bond utlizing his skills and being unsure of who to trust quits MI6 to figure out who is on his side and who is not you could have M figure out early on in the film and Help 007 on his goal of getting rid of the doubleagents in both MI6 and the CIA .


I just think the idea of Bond completing "his own mission" (which would be to the good of MI6) is nice twist on the Bond gets mission bond does mission without it seming personal I mean clearly if you were in bond shoes wouldn't you want to "clean house"

[BoogieBond]

well if it's based on what we already know of course it's "Mostly true"


we'll know in 2 weeks

I think that there was some stuff in there that was new, and not based on what we already know(some specifics about the opera sequence(Bond eyeing up a quantum man and then nicking his Tuxedo as it fitted better), the ending, No Bond,James Bond, exact details of how fields died and how she was found, with M present), so I can't decide, if YOLT was lucky, or was a feeder endorsed by EON, or whether he saw a rough cut which has since had the scenes changed(e.g Camilles fate) as he said he saw a 2 hour cut of the film. The 2 sticking points for me are Elvis's and Camille's fate. Everything else looks though it could happen from what we have seen(even since the YOLT review was published)
2 weeks time can't come quick enough.

Edited by BoogieBond, 15 October 2008 - 06:57 PM.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Well it's been a fun debate but we'll know the answers soon enough

[SolidWaffle]

It's kinda funky thinking that after QOS comes out we have to wait another year to know anything about #23.

[Quantumofsolace007]

It's kinda funky thinking that after QOS comes out we have to wait another year to know anything about #23.

i think we'll get our first rumour in early 09 with a released date of bond 23 March 09 possibly later then a flurry of rumours next summer. finaly anouncment of director cast and title with filming to begin late 09 early 2010



I hope

[Captain Tightpants]

ForMathis, the oil thing was a rumour before the review, I'm almost certain of it. Gemma Arterton let slip that Fields came to "a sticky end" after the January press conference when the title was announced - she tends to answer anything she's asked - and speculation ws rife that she was drowned in oil, though this was largely because it was suspected that the resource Quantum were after was oil rather than water. We've since found out differently and the rumour subsided slightly, though nevertheless proved true, at least in part.

Also, MGW wants a three-year break to think about the next one. Sony might set a provisional date of 2010 for the next film, but the producers could pretty much do anything they wanted.

CM007 said he saw a screening in the "Daniel Craig interview with first film clips" thread. Didn't give much information, just said the movie was very Bourne.

It's not. If anything, Bourne is the poor-man's Bond. Honestly, the Moscow car chase was the only decent action scene in the three films. The Paris chase in the first one was pretty generic, and the New York chase was just a re-tread of Moscow.

Edited by Captain Tightpants, 16 October 2008 - 12:11 AM.

[kneelbeforezod]

CM007 said he saw a screening in the "Daniel Craig interview with first film clips" thread. Didn't give much information, just said the movie was very Bourne.

He didn't give much information did he? Funny that... you know, you'd think that as one of the first people on the planet to see the film, and certainly the first person on this forum, he would maybe start a thread with his review of the film. Maybe he could include some details that would prove he'd seen it. Because he saw Casino Royale incredibly early too. And yet on both occasions, he goes into almost no detail about the film, while criticising it as "not a Bond film". How odd.

A thought just occurred to me: perhaps he's lying through his little attention seeking fanboy teeth

[Quantumofsolace007]

ForMathis, the oil thing was a rumour before the review, I'm almost certain of it. Gemma Arterton let slip that Fields came to "a sticky end" after the January press conference when the title was announced - she tends to answer anything she's asked - and speculation ws rife that she was drowned in oil, though this was largely because it was suspected that the resource Quantum were after was oil rather than water. We've since found out differently and the rumour subsided slightly, though nevertheless proved true, at least in part.

Also, MGW wants a three-year break to think about the next one. Sony might set a provisional date of 2010 for the next film, but the producers could pretty much do anything they wanted.

CM007 said he saw a screening in the "Daniel Craig interview with first film clips" thread. Didn't give much information, just said the movie was very Bourne.

It's not. If anything, Bourne is the poor-man's Bond. Honestly, the Moscow car chase was the only decent action scene in the three films. The Paris chase in the first one was pretty generic, and the New York chase was just a re-tread of Moscow.

Things change there was a rumour the bond producers wanted a bond film in 2007 but that wound up coming undone. I'm hoping for one in 2010 and another in 2012 and honestly both being fleming titled as well (Risico and The Hildebrand Rarity?) but we'll see certanitly Quantum looks great

[Germanlady]

CM007 said he saw a screening in the "Daniel Craig interview with first film clips" thread. Didn't give much information, just said the movie was very Bourne.

He didn't give much information did he? Funny that... you know, you'd think that as one of the first people on the planet to see the film, and certainly the first person on this forum, he would maybe start a thread with his review of the film. Maybe he could include some details that would prove he'd seen it. Because he saw Casino Royale incredibly early too. And yet on both occasions, he goes into almost no detail about the film, while criticising it as "not a Bond film". How odd.

A thought just occurred to me: perhaps he's lying through his little attention seeking fanboy teeth

Yes.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

This is actually kinda funny now. Pretty much everything said about Bond, Camille, and Greene at the end is actually reversed in the final film.

Spoiler

Camille lives, Greene dies, and Bond returns to Mi6, not resign.

Not that I'm at all surprised. Doesn't matter if he got some of it right. YOLT flat out LIED to everyone. It is safe to say this review was indeed 100% BULL[censored]!!!!

[Quantumofsolace007]

This is actually kinda funny now. Pretty much everything said about Bond, Camille, and Greene at the end is actually reversed in the final film.

Spoiler

Camille lives, Greene dies, and Bond returns to Mi6, not resign.

Not that I'm at all surprised. Doesn't matter if he got some of it right. YOLT flat out LIED to everyone. It is safe to say this review was indeed 100% BULL[censored]!!!!

neither am i

so what does M and bond talk about at the end?

[Vauxhall]

so what does M and bond talk about at the end?

Clearing up the Yusef business I expect, and then about the fact that Bond "never left".

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

As I understand it...

Spoiler

After Bond hands Yusef over to M she asks Bond, if she expect him back to which he replies "I never left". The final shot before the "closing gunbarrel" is Bond dropping the love knot in the snow as he walks off.

[sharpshooter]

Sounds awesome. 'I never left.' A really rousing Bond moment. The gunbarrel after that will be a treat for sure. And it is hilarious how opposite this IMDB review is to the final film.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

I really like the sound of Greene's demise.

Spoiler

after getting his information Bond leaves Greene in the desert with a mangled foot and a can motor oil telling him that he'll probably make at least 30 miles before he starts drinking it if doesn't get a bullet in the back of his head first

[bondrules]

so who is the head of quantum?

[Blofeld's Cat]

so who is the head of quantum?

Q!

Hence the stylised letter in the word "Quantum".

[bondrules]

so who is the head of quantum?

Q!

Hence the stylised letter in the word "Quantum".

LMAO!!

[sharpshooter]

I really like the sound of Greene's demise.

Spoiler

after getting his information Bond leaves Greene in the desert with a mangled foot and a can motor oil telling him that he'll probably make at least 30 miles before he starts drinking it if doesn't get a bullet in the back of his head first

Just brilliant!

[Loomis]

As I understand it...

Spoiler

After Bond hands Yusef over to M she asks Bond, if she expect him back to which he replies "I never left". The final shot before the "closing gunbarrel" is Bond dropping the love knot in the snow as he walks off.

Doesn't De Niro say those same words at the end of RONIN? I know that the context is different, but it does seem a strange.... coincidence.

[stamper]

Actually, it's stolen from the end of MAD MAX.

[SecretAgentFan]

So, the imdb review was totally fake?

[Vauxhall]

So, the imdb review was totally fake?

Nope, largely based on facts that we already knew, with some fabricated attempts at filling in the blanks in our knowledge.

[SecretAgentFan]

And since this is a spoiler forum:

- how does Camille exit the film?

- does Bond quit at the end? (judging from the score CD he does not)

[Vauxhall]

I think (and I'm sure someone can correct me if I'm wrong) that Camille walks off into the distance at a train station in the Bolivian desert, and Bond does not quit.

[SecretAgentFan]

Thanks, Vauxhall. I was hoping for that.