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[Quantumofsolace007]

Thanks, Vauxhall. I was hoping for that.

So hopefully this means bond 23 will be "business as usual" yet bond 23 will involve Quantum

and also on my wish list is Bond 23 having a fleming title.

and a Rock theme I'm 21 and I'm as huge fan of Yes Genesis Rush etc. I still say Yes would do an amazing job (youtube search Spirit of Survival off their 2001 album Magnification and you'll see why) But so long as the eltric guitar is wailing i'm a happy man.

Edited by Quantumofsolace007, 18 October 2008 - 02:17 PM.

[ForMathis]

You'd think I'd be happy as this new ending news jives with exactly what I wanted, but then they had to go and do that 'gun barrel at end of movie' bull[censored]. What a stupid ing decision done to just be different. Pisses me the off, there was no reason to change it other than that it is a change. Its those little cosmetic things that make Bond-Bond. I guarantee 100% the reviewers would have not called it a Bourne film as much if the Gun barrel was at the start. It's practically a psychological thing.

[SolidWaffle]

I'm going to say we should wait till we see it in context with the film. Maybe when some more CBners see press screenings they can tell us how it was. It's unusual sure, but it may work out brilliantly.

[ForMathis]

There is no possible way it could work better at the end of the film than the beginning, 20 bucks says it was at the beginning then some was like "hey lets be different"

, Id have rather had Bond retire. This is so ing stupid. I didn't even realize the placement of the Gun Barrel was going to be an issue. I hate all this revisionist crap.

[Vauxhall]

All one can say here is give it a chance. You may like it.

[Kristian]

This is actually kinda funny now. Pretty much everything said about Bond, Camille, and Greene at the end is actually reversed in the final film.

Spoiler

Camille lives, Greene dies, and Bond returns to Mi6, not resign.

Not that I'm at all surprised. Doesn't matter if he got some of it right. YOLT flat out LIED to everyone. It is safe to say this review was indeed 100% BULL[censored]!!!!

Exactly. F#@%in' PATHETIC truly. Sorry, but if you have your own little ideas for a film, then say so and be honest... If you have some fan fiction that you are just burning to get off your chest, then by all means share it - But DO NOT pass your second-rate s&!t off as authentic for attention and to rile up other fans - while secretly watching the havoc that you are causing. THe excuse that this creates healthy debate isn't good enough. False info can actually kill enthusiasm for some people and hurt the momentum of a film. I hated the idea of Camille dying, Greene surviving, and Bond resigning - the most unsatisfying ending EVER. For a few dark moments there, the review almost had me convinced and me and my cronies were like, "well, we'll rent the DVD and skip the theatres...."

Bottom line: this loser did it for attention and to see how we received his ideas. Well, YOLT, if you are reading this - rest assured that you will always be mediocre - like your ideas and your methods. Oh, and don't be fooled by some of the positive reception from some CBNers here. I think the true mark that your ideas suck is THAT THEY DIDN'T USE IT IN THE MOVIE!!!! Now, go back to your daydreams, d!p$h!t...

Edited by Kristian, 18 October 2008 - 04:01 PM.

[Quantumofsolace007]

This is actually kinda funny now. Pretty much everything said about Bond, Camille, and Greene at the end is actually reversed in the final film.

Spoiler

Camille lives, Greene dies, and Bond returns to Mi6, not resign.

Not that I'm at all surprised. Doesn't matter if he got some of it right. YOLT flat out LIED to everyone. It is safe to say this review was indeed 100% BULL[censored]!!!!

Exactly. F#@%in' PATHETIC truly. Sorry, but if you have your own little ideas for a film, then say so and be honest... If you have some fan fiction that you are just burning to get off your chest, then by all means share it - But DO NOT pass your second-rate s&!t off as authentic for attention and to rile up other fans - while secretly watching the havoc that you are causing. THe excuse that this creates healthy debate isn't good enough. False info can actually kill enthusiasm for some people and hurt the momentum of a film. I hated the idea of Camille dying, Greene surviving, and Bond resigning - the most unsatisfying ending EVER. For a few dark moments there, the review almost had me convinced and me and my cronies were like, "well, we'll rent the DVD and skip the theatres...."

Bottom line: this loser did it for attention and to see how we received his ideas. Well, YOLT, if you are reading this - rest assured that you will always be mediocre - like your ideas and your methods. Oh, and don't be fooled by some of the positive reception from some CBNers here. I think the true mark that your ideas suck is THAT THEY DIDN'T USE IT IN THE MOVIE!!!! Now, go back to your daydreams, d!p$h!t...

Kristian I'm glad u were right.

Hey I like bond staying on don't get me wrong However with Camilie Living and the chance of Quantum Returning what are your thoughts

Should Camilie Return and Should Bond go after quantum

[ForMathis]

Personally I think Quantum should stay on for all of Craigs flicks, with him slowly taking apart their organization and finishing them off in his last.

And Camille should have a cameo in Bond 24, not 23.

[Kristian]

This is actually kinda funny now. Pretty much everything said about Bond, Camille, and Greene at the end is actually reversed in the final film.

Spoiler

Camille lives, Greene dies, and Bond returns to Mi6, not resign.

Not that I'm at all surprised. Doesn't matter if he got some of it right. YOLT flat out LIED to everyone. It is safe to say this review was indeed 100% BULL[censored]!!!!

Exactly. F#@%in' PATHETIC truly. Sorry, but if you have your own little ideas for a film, then say so and be honest... If you have some fan fiction that you are just burning to get off your chest, then by all means share it - But DO NOT pass your second-rate s&!t off as authentic for attention and to rile up other fans - while secretly watching the havoc that you are causing. THe excuse that this creates healthy debate isn't good enough. False info can actually kill enthusiasm for some people and hurt the momentum of a film. I hated the idea of Camille dying, Greene surviving, and Bond resigning - the most unsatisfying ending EVER. For a few dark moments there, the review almost had me convinced and me and my cronies were like, "well, we'll rent the DVD and skip the theatres...."

Bottom line: this loser did it for attention and to see how we received his ideas. Well, YOLT, if you are reading this - rest assured that you will always be mediocre - like your ideas and your methods. Oh, and don't be fooled by some of the positive reception from some CBNers here. I think the true mark that your ideas suck is THAT THEY DIDN'T USE IT IN THE MOVIE!!!! Now, go back to your daydreams, d!p$h!t...

Kristian I'm glad u were right.

Hey I like bond staying on don't get me wrong However with Camilie Living and the chance of Quantum Returning what are your thoughts

Should Camilie Return and Should Bond go after quantum

Q, I think Camille should come back, but like ForMathis wrote, it should be for Bond 24. Let BOnd 23 be its own film. If she comes back too soon, it might give a "sequel" feel to Bond 23 that we don't want.

Bond will definitely go after QUANTUM because I hear it's being set up to be like SPECTRE. But NO MORE VESPER - for God's sake. They act like she's Tracy now or something. ENOUGH!! Vesper Lynd is so five minutes ago.

Anyhow, glad to know Cammie lives. Look forward to her eventual return....

[Quantumofsolace007]

This is actually kinda funny now. Pretty much everything said about Bond, Camille, and Greene at the end is actually reversed in the final film.

Spoiler

Camille lives, Greene dies, and Bond returns to Mi6, not resign.

Not that I'm at all surprised. Doesn't matter if he got some of it right. YOLT flat out LIED to everyone. It is safe to say this review was indeed 100% BULL[censored]!!!!

Exactly. F#@%in' PATHETIC truly. Sorry, but if you have your own little ideas for a film, then say so and be honest... If you have some fan fiction that you are just burning to get off your chest, then by all means share it - But DO NOT pass your second-rate s&!t off as authentic for attention and to rile up other fans - while secretly watching the havoc that you are causing. THe excuse that this creates healthy debate isn't good enough. False info can actually kill enthusiasm for some people and hurt the momentum of a film. I hated the idea of Camille dying, Greene surviving, and Bond resigning - the most unsatisfying ending EVER. For a few dark moments there, the review almost had me convinced and me and my cronies were like, "well, we'll rent the DVD and skip the theatres...."

Bottom line: this loser did it for attention and to see how we received his ideas. Well, YOLT, if you are reading this - rest assured that you will always be mediocre - like your ideas and your methods. Oh, and don't be fooled by some of the positive reception from some CBNers here. I think the true mark that your ideas suck is THAT THEY DIDN'T USE IT IN THE MOVIE!!!! Now, go back to your daydreams, d!p$h!t...

Kristian I'm glad u were right.

Hey I like bond staying on don't get me wrong However with Camilie Living and the chance of Quantum Returning what are your thoughts

Should Camilie Return and Should Bond go after quantum

Q, I think Camille should come back, but like ForMathis wrote, it should be for Bond 24. Let BOnd 23 be its own film. If she comes back too soon, it might give a "sequel" feel to Bond 23 that we don't want.

Bond will definitely go after QUANTUM because I hear it's being set up to be like SPECTRE. But NO MORE VESPER - for God's sake. They act like she's Tracy now or something. ENOUGH!! Vesper Lynd is so five minutes ago.

Anyhow, glad to know Cammie lives. Look forward to her eventual return....

What Should Bond 23 be titled Kristian knowing everything you know about Quantum if the producers came up to you and asked

"What fleming title should bond 23 be?"

your answer?

[Kristian]

This is actually kinda funny now. Pretty much everything said about Bond, Camille, and Greene at the end is actually reversed in the final film.

Spoiler

Camille lives, Greene dies, and Bond returns to Mi6, not resign.

Not that I'm at all surprised. Doesn't matter if he got some of it right. YOLT flat out LIED to everyone. It is safe to say this review was indeed 100% BULL[censored]!!!!

Exactly. F#@%in' PATHETIC truly. Sorry, but if you have your own little ideas for a film, then say so and be honest... If you have some fan fiction that you are just burning to get off your chest, then by all means share it - But DO NOT pass your second-rate s&!t off as authentic for attention and to rile up other fans - while secretly watching the havoc that you are causing. THe excuse that this creates healthy debate isn't good enough. False info can actually kill enthusiasm for some people and hurt the momentum of a film. I hated the idea of Camille dying, Greene surviving, and Bond resigning - the most unsatisfying ending EVER. For a few dark moments there, the review almost had me convinced and me and my cronies were like, "well, we'll rent the DVD and skip the theatres...."

Bottom line: this loser did it for attention and to see how we received his ideas. Well, YOLT, if you are reading this - rest assured that you will always be mediocre - like your ideas and your methods. Oh, and don't be fooled by some of the positive reception from some CBNers here. I think the true mark that your ideas suck is THAT THEY DIDN'T USE IT IN THE MOVIE!!!! Now, go back to your daydreams, d!p$h!t...

Kristian I'm glad u were right.

Hey I like bond staying on don't get me wrong However with Camilie Living and the chance of Quantum Returning what are your thoughts

Should Camilie Return and Should Bond go after quantum

Q, I think Camille should come back, but like ForMathis wrote, it should be for Bond 24. Let BOnd 23 be its own film. If she comes back too soon, it might give a "sequel" feel to Bond 23 that we don't want.

Bond will definitely go after QUANTUM because I hear it's being set up to be like SPECTRE. But NO MORE VESPER - for God's sake. They act like she's Tracy now or something. ENOUGH!! Vesper Lynd is so five minutes ago.

Anyhow, glad to know Cammie lives. Look forward to her eventual return....

What Should Bond 23 be titled Kristian knowing everything you know about Quantum if the producers came up to you and asked

"What fleming title should bond 23 be?"

your answer?

Well, it depends on the story.... But I would definitely minimize the Quantum references for Bond 23, and try to make it standalone as much as possible. I would definitely like to see it be more of a thriller and less like an action film.

I mean, Bond films were always thrillers with SOME ACTION in them. Even TLD and LTK were essentially thrillers that had action sequences in them. I think around Pierce Brosnan's debut with GOLDENEYE, the emphasis shifted to less Hitchcockian aspects and more to explosions and stunts. TWINE and CASINO ROYALE were probably the more recent films that had a "thriller" vibe. I hope that QOS will be similar....

I would like Bond 23 be more of a thriller - and less of an action film. Definitely have action - but not wall to wall.

[Quantumofsolace007]

This is actually kinda funny now. Pretty much everything said about Bond, Camille, and Greene at the end is actually reversed in the final film.

Spoiler

Camille lives, Greene dies, and Bond returns to Mi6, not resign.

Not that I'm at all surprised. Doesn't matter if he got some of it right. YOLT flat out LIED to everyone. It is safe to say this review was indeed 100% BULL[censored]!!!!

Exactly. F#@%in' PATHETIC truly. Sorry, but if you have your own little ideas for a film, then say so and be honest... If you have some fan fiction that you are just burning to get off your chest, then by all means share it - But DO NOT pass your second-rate s&!t off as authentic for attention and to rile up other fans - while secretly watching the havoc that you are causing. THe excuse that this creates healthy debate isn't good enough. False info can actually kill enthusiasm for some people and hurt the momentum of a film. I hated the idea of Camille dying, Greene surviving, and Bond resigning - the most unsatisfying ending EVER. For a few dark moments there, the review almost had me convinced and me and my cronies were like, "well, we'll rent the DVD and skip the theatres...."

Bottom line: this loser did it for attention and to see how we received his ideas. Well, YOLT, if you are reading this - rest assured that you will always be mediocre - like your ideas and your methods. Oh, and don't be fooled by some of the positive reception from some CBNers here. I think the true mark that your ideas suck is THAT THEY DIDN'T USE IT IN THE MOVIE!!!! Now, go back to your daydreams, d!p$h!t...

Kristian I'm glad u were right.

Hey I like bond staying on don't get me wrong However with Camilie Living and the chance of Quantum Returning what are your thoughts

Should Camilie Return and Should Bond go after quantum

Q, I think Camille should come back, but like ForMathis wrote, it should be for Bond 24. Let BOnd 23 be its own film. If she comes back too soon, it might give a "sequel" feel to Bond 23 that we don't want.

Bond will definitely go after QUANTUM because I hear it's being set up to be like SPECTRE. But NO MORE VESPER - for God's sake. They act like she's Tracy now or something. ENOUGH!! Vesper Lynd is so five minutes ago.

Anyhow, glad to know Cammie lives. Look forward to her eventual return....

What Should Bond 23 be titled Kristian knowing everything you know about Quantum if the producers came up to you and asked

"What fleming title should bond 23 be?"

your answer?

Well, it depends on the story.... But I would definitely minimize the Quantum references for Bond 23, and try to make it standalone as much as possible. I would definitely like to see it be more of a thriller and less like an action film.

I mean, Bond films were always thrillers with SOME ACTION in them. Even TLD and LTK were essentially thrillers that had action sequences in them. I think around Pierce Brosnan's debut with GOLDENEYE, the emphasis shifted to less Hitchcockian aspects and more to explosions and stunts. TWINE and CASINO ROYALE were probably the more recent films that had a "thriller" vibe. I hope that QOS will be similar....

I would like Bond 23 be more of a thriller - and less of an action film. Definitely have action - but not wall to wall.

interesting stand point.

[Simon Beavis]

This is actually kinda funny now. Pretty much everything said about Bond, Camille, and Greene at the end is actually reversed in the final film.

Spoiler

Camille lives, Greene dies, and Bond returns to Mi6, not resign.

Okay, 1 and 3 have entered the "most likely" phase now, but are we really sure about 2 yet? I think there is other stuff to support that.

Spoiler

We got Greene, White, and Yusef. I think it's a given that by the end of QOS, one of them will be alive and pissed-off, one will be toast, and one will be iffy, but do we really know the order?

[Vauxhall]

I don't know about White, but it seems that Greene is left for dead and thus probably has an ambiguous fate, whereas Yusef is taken into MI6 custody.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

This is actually kinda funny now. Pretty much everything said about Bond, Camille, and Greene at the end is actually reversed in the final film.

Spoiler

Camille lives, Greene dies, and Bond returns to Mi6, not resign.

Okay, 1 and 3 have entered the "most likely" phase now, but are we really sure about 2 yet? I think there is other stuff to support that.

Spoiler

We got Greene, White, and Yusef. I think it's a given that by the end of QOS, one of them will be alive and pissed-off, one will be toast, and one will be iffy, but do we really know the order?

According to several people who've seen the film...

Spoiler

it's pretty clear Greene dies. Having Greene live would totally ruin the beautiful irony in how he meets his end. There are so many layers to it. He has Fields drowned in oil, he wants to take over a large chunk of South America's fresh water supply and then Bond leaves him in the Desert with a screwed foot and nothing but a container of motor oil to drink for when he finally goes mad with thirst. It's a horrible fate and one very fitting. Greene is dead, both White and Yusef are alive and could possibly return.

[DamnCoffee]

Anyone else think that this thread needs to be locked now that the review has been proven to be fake?

The IMDb Review
2 September 2008 - 19 October 2008

R.I.P

[bondrules]

Yusef is coming back, at least according to this post


You hear the words and you think, Ernst Stavro Blofeld, you think Auric Goldfinger, and you even think Dr Kananga and Scaramanga. To this noble list we will soon be adding, er, Yusef. Or at least we will when we know exactly what he does; how he deals with Bond; and how he shapes the worldview of Quantum of Solace, the new and highly anticipated movie from the rebooted franchise of Bond reborn, Daniel Craig..........Yusef is so pivotal to the new Bond story that Kassianides has already been signed on for the follow-up Bond

http://entertainment...icle4947968.ece

Edited by bondrules, 19 October 2008 - 09:32 PM.

[Vauxhall]

Umm, the actual quote is:

...internet leaks have suggested that Yusef is so pivotal to the new Bond story that Kassianides has already been signed on for the follow-up Bond, too, but more of that later.

[bondrules]

Umm, the actual quote is:

...internet leaks have suggested that Yusef is so pivotal to the new Bond story that Kassianides has already been signed on for the follow-up Bond, too, but more of that later.

It might be all bull, I know....

[Kristian]

Anyone else think that this thread needs to be locked now that the review has been proven to be fake?

The IMDb Review
2 September 2008 - 19 October 2008

R.I.P

Should never have been born...

[Vauxhall]

To be fair, the "internet leaks" mentioned probably just refers to speculation from this website and others like it.

[bondrules]

BTW, that imdb review really got me fooled, I thought for sure Camille died....not that I would have cared much, but.....so Greene doesn't die, and Mathis does, that is correct?

[Vauxhall]

BTW, that imdb review really got me fooled, I thought for sure Camille died....not that I would have cared much, but.....so Greene doesn't die, and Mathis does, that is correct?

Greene is left for dead by Bond, and Mathis dies.

I actually think the fact that Mathis dies will end up being my biggest annoyance about QUANTUM OF SOLACE. I'm unsure about the killing of Fleming originals...

[bondrules]

BTW, that imdb review really got me fooled, I thought for sure Camille died....not that I would have cared much, but.....so Greene doesn't die, and Mathis does, that is correct?

Greene is left for dead by Bond, and Mathis dies.

I actually think the fact that Mathis dies will end up being my biggest annoyance about QUANTUM OF SOLACE. I'm unsure about the killing of Fleming originals...

I agree, especially now, from the clips, the chemistry between him and Bond is fantastic

Although I find it morbidly cruel and sickly amusing that they write him off by dumping him in the trash

Edited by bondrules, 19 October 2008 - 10:04 PM.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Kristian u gotta agree the theard provided interesting debate.

I think for bond 23 one of us should admit we haven't seen it but based on everything we know this what "might happen"

this way we can argue instead about what is right bersus perhaps arguing the validity of the claim

[Simon Beavis]

Greene is left for dead and thus probably has an ambiguous fate

If you save your breath, I figure a man like yourself could manage it.

(Clint Eastwood to Eli Wallach, after the former leaves the latter for dead in The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly)

Edited by Simon Beavis, 19 October 2008 - 11:16 PM.

[Kristian]

Kristian u gotta agree the theard provided interesting debate.

I think for bond 23 one of us should admit we haven't seen it but based on everything we know this what "might happen"

this way we can argue instead about what is right bersus perhaps arguing the validity of the claim

Q, yes it did. But as your last line so aptly captured (no sarcasm, seriously) we have better things to argue about besides whether a "review" is fake or not.

P.S. You're not YOLT, are you? Because if you are, I will feel terrible for basically verbally annihilating you. It would be a really awful plot twist, like Jinx having a cameo in QOS.... Say it ain't so.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Kristian u gotta agree the theard provided interesting debate.

I think for bond 23 one of us should admit we haven't seen it but based on everything we know this what "might happen"

this way we can argue instead about what is right bersus perhaps arguing the validity of the claim

Q, yes it did. But as your last line so aptly captured (no sarcasm, seriously) we have better things to argue about besides whether a "review" is fake or not.

P.S. You're not YOLT, are you? Because if you are, I will feel terrible for basically verbally annihilating you. It would be a really awful plot twist, like Jinx having a cameo in QOS.... Say it ain't so.

No I have better thing to do with my time then claim i've seen something and base it all on heresay and nonsense.


Like be here and listen to heresay and nonsense

No I am on IMDB Macgyver12186


In all honsty YOLT's two saving graces was the mathis conversations and the sence that i had no idea where the producers were taking bond but i weant to know.

I worry bond returning to Mi6 won't have that same sort of impact. I'm worng of course as Empire muses that Quantum will retrun and that they at least don't know where bond is going but are excited to find out.

I understand Everyone "cry for no more personal" but I just don't see things like "Oh another bond revenge film great" or "won't he just quit moping about Vesper"


I see Bond as an emotional Man and not a superman and I just am unsure how a "business as usual" bond film can give us an Emotional and Human Bond.

But then again i saw TND as a business as usual bond film with a detour subplot (paris) that never went anywhere and mearly provided bond with the sacrafical Lamb.


Bond always got emotionall vested in the novels and yet i see a paradox People clamoring for it to be like the books yet no more "Emotional Bond"



Like i said Bond Being all alone Makes him Dangerous and unpredicable in my eyes. Now before everyone rips me apart had bond Quit i would of made bonds "exit" a simple ploy to make the double agents in MI6 known.


But hey I'm happy Bond stays on but I fear while business as usual may be a breath of fresh air for some of us it might seem predictable to others.


Well I'm sure this rambling post is gonna get everyone mad lol

Once again Macgyver12186 is my screen name on imdb oh i'm also Rabin105 on yesfans.com for any fellow yesfans MemberofQuantum on Moviehole forum

though I'm not winning any friend on my choice in

Theme song preformer ( I don't care that yes isn't the most popular band ever i love them and want them to do a bond theme and feel they'd be good at it)

or titles (i understand 007 in new york would be a "gimick Bond film" but with the right director and writers and 007 possibly even DC they can make u forget it's a gimmick bond film and could include the suspense thriller themes you want anyways)

Edited by Quantumofsolace007, 20 October 2008 - 01:50 AM.

[stamper]

I have just seen the movie, and I say this review was the real deal. But it might have been based on an early, superior draft of the script.

It's obvious when watching the movie that many parts in his review that differ from the final film were reshoot parts. You'll see it when you watch the movie (for example Camille isn't with Bond when he get rid of Greene, but she is suddenly back in the car for one shot after this).

The cut the movie to ribbons, and reshot parts of it. Probably they rewrote and reshoot as they were going. I say they did all the wrong moves. if they left it as it was, the version this guy have seen or read, then it would have been better than CR, and two hours long.

[bondrules]

I have just seen the movie, and I say this review was the real deal.

It's obvious when watching the movie that all part in his review that differ from the final film were reshoot parts. You'll see it when you watch the movie (for example Camille isn't with Bond when he get rid of Greene, but she is suddenly back in the car for one shot after this).

The cut the movie to ribbons, and reshot parts of it. I say they did all the wrong moves. if they left it as it was, the version this guy have seen, then it would have been better than CR, and two hours long.

Wow, I don't know what to think....