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[Quantumofsolace007]

So is it True? do we all agree now?

[DamnCoffee]

From The Sun review:

"Things get so bad that M revokes his licence to kill."

Odd, since this review states that Bond resigns.
The Sun review is full of errors though. Bonds car being a DB9 etc... I think the author was just mixed up, he obviously hasn't payed much attention:

"Who the hell is Vesper? Why has she got a hold over him..."

[Shrublands]

The Sun review is full of errors though.

He'll have been drunk when he watched it or when he wrote up his copy or both. Really.

It’s just a short stumble from the viewing theatre in the Soho Hotel to The Coach and Horses, very convenient.

[Quantumofsolace007]

What is it then true false maybe maybe not.


so confused

oh well

i can wait another month or so.

[oatesy]

Could be that both are true. From the Sun review it sounds as if M revokes Bond's licence in the middle of the film, whereas yolt says the resignation occurs right at the end

[bondrules]

I do believe the IMDb review to be accurate.

One thing that I am looking forward to is the short action sequences. I think that dragging action sequences take a toll on the plot itself. I truly enjoyed Casino Royale, but I didn't think it was perfect.
The freerunning & airport scenes, were tooooo long. Glad Forster understands that action scenes must be well made and original, but short and to the point.

[sharpshooter]

The freerunning & airport scenes, were tooooo long.

The freerunning was fine because it was such a joy to watch, the airport stuff dragged.

[SecretAgentFan]

From The Sun review:

"Things get so bad that M revokes his licence to kill."

Odd, since this review states that Bond resigns.
The Sun review is full of errors though. Bonds car being a DB9 etc... I think the author was just mixed up, he obviously hasn't payed much attention:

"Who the hell is Vesper? Why has she got a hold over him..."

Actually, that would be a much more interesting thing: instead of quitting again, M "only" revokes his licence to kill again. In Bond 23 Bond will have to prove himself without being allowed to kill unless M tells him to.

That I would love.

[DamnCoffee]

That would be a neat idea.

[Vauxhall]

Despite being fairly sure that 90% of this plot is correct, I'm still not entirely convinced about Camille's fate.

Apparently the final scene in Bolivia before we switch to Moscow is at the abandoned railway station. I can't find the relevant information now, but I thought Camille was involved in those scenes when they were shot in Chile...

My most logical thought at the moment is that alternate endings were shot. One with Camille surviving, and one not.

[Mr. Blofeld]

My most logical thought at the moment is that alternate endings were shot. One with Camille surviving, and one not.

So, most logically speaking, around the same time YOLT got his sneak peek, a different audience in a different location was presented with a different print of the film that contained a different ending?

Cor blimey, I'm witshot...

[Quantumofsolace007]

alternate endings interesting. I wanna know if it's legit or nt or at the very least does bond quit at the end or does he not?

[Captain Tightpants]

alternate endings interesting. I wanna know if it's legit or nt or at the very least does bond quit at the end or does he not?

I don't think anyone knows for certain, but given that he resigned in Casino Royale, I'd say it's unlikely.

[stamper]

He didn't resign, they will talk about it later, so it was pending. I say it wlll become effective.

[Elvenstar]

After this dreadful mess from the Sun I prefer to believe this man.

[Ace Roberts]

From The Sun review:

"Things get so bad that M revokes his licence to kill."

Odd, since this review states that Bond resigns.
The Sun review is full of errors though. Bonds car being a DB9 etc... I think the author was just mixed up, he obviously hasn't payed much attention:

Not to say the IMDB review is legit or not - but want to point out that in that review he states that Bond resigns at the end of the film - and the statement by the Sun does not clarify where things get so bad that M revokes his license - but we know (from several sources) that it is in the middle of the film that she cancels his passports - etc. I think these are separate incidences that are not linked - if the IMDB reviewer is correct about the ending.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I do think bond leaving ast the end of a film would be both exciting and interesting.

[Greene217]

I hope this is legit, Bond leaving Greene in the desert would be brilliant, he rediscovers hi humanity. Whether the producers will have the guts to kill off two more Bond girls and leave QOS with bond resigneing, well I

[Greene217]

I'll be gutted if this isnt true, though I think Camille does live, in the trailer you see her beaten up in the same cloths in the finale walking towards the camera.

but hopefully i am wrong, the whole mirror image of Bond and Camille would be awesome and her death would really shock audiences. (they wouldnt expect another bond girl death). camille and Greene have become two of my favourite characters in bond history, her death would be possibly be the most tragic of all and in the cinema should Greene survive (this I think is true, Forster repeadetly refers to this as not a revenge movie- the solace for bond is letting go of Greene and eventually Vesper)I would whisper a silent ''yes'' cause I think Amalric is amazing and wonderfully evil and it would be ace for him to return.

The final scene of Bond in Moscow, well that would be incredible and spark hot debate for months/years but there will be music at the end, which is a shame cause that would be really make an impact on audiences.
If the film ends as yolt says I will clpa my hands and applaud it with all my might, cause with such a dramatic ending as this, well, how long till the oscars?

[QuantumM66]

I have the Press Production Notes of QOS, and it IS
confirmed in the notes that 007 does indeed leave
Greene in the desert.

As many grammatical and spelling mistakes the IMDb
review contains, it somehow, oddly enough, appears
more legit than perhaps most of us are willing to admit.

I think the proposed ending (if indeed it's true) is a
highly intriguing choice, and will for sure leave every
fan of James Bond clamoring for more - ASAP.

Oddly enough, the proposed ending also reflects the end
of "The Dark Knight," where Bruce Wayne/Batman sacrifices
himself for the greater good of Gotham City.

I'm not saying that Bond does the same in QOS, but surely
- as we're all living in the post 9/11 zeitgeist - "the
writing's on the wall" and Bond may see himself as some
kind of scapegoat in the eyes of MI6. Even if his need
for revenge is temporarily sated. (Then again, if Greene
truly is rescued from the desert by his minions, as has
been claimed, that changes pretty much everything.)

If 007 would resign at the end, that only ups the ante, and
makes the anticipation for Bond 23 that much HIGHER. Lastly
but not least, it also MUST improve the quality of the writing
even more. But that's hardly a bad thing, is it?

Further elaboration on this, anyone?

[dr. strangelove]

I'll be gutted if this isnt true, though I think Camille does live, in the trailer you see her beaten up in the same cloths in the finale walking towards the camera.

but hopefully i am wrong, the whole mirror image of Bond and Camille would be awesome and her death would really shock audiences. (they wouldnt expect another bond girl death). camille and Greene have become two of my favourite characters in bond history, her death would be possibly be the most tragic of all and in the cinema should Greene survive (this I think is true, Forster repeadetly refers to this as not a revenge movie- the solace for bond is letting go of Greene and eventually Vesper)I would whisper a silent ''yes'' cause I think Amalric is amazing and wonderfully evil and it would be ace for him to return.

The final scene of Bond in Moscow, well that would be incredible and spark hot debate for months/years but there will be music at the end, which is a shame cause that would be really make an impact on audiences.
If the film ends as yolt says I will clpa my hands and applaud it with all my might, cause with such a dramatic ending as this, well, how long till the oscars?

The finale scene will not be in Moscow. The QoS article in Empire magazine confirms this.

Regarding Camille's supposed "death", I don't buy it. There was some B-roll footage a couple months back (when the production was filming in the desert) that showed Olga walking towards a train, with her back to the camera. I believe someone else here mentioned this as a scene in a desert railyard. It looked very much like a concluding shot for her character. I'd be extremely EXTREMELY surprised if she died.

[DamnCoffee]

The finale scene will not be in Moscow. The QoS article in Empire magazine confirms this.

What exactly did the article say?

[PPK_19]

The article says:

Spoiler

'We are sitting in the piercing light of the Atacama Desert in northern Chile, on the roof on the real Residencia, the view a moonscape of pale rock all the way to the sky. It is here the film will explosively conclude. Where Bond and Camille will confront Greene and their mutual destinies. Olga Kurylenko has been dropping vertically between balconies, and will end up kicking an evil general in the nuts. Craig is about to blast his way through a skylight and leap down on to the fleeing Amalric as Greene'

Hope that helps.

[DamnCoffee]

I think he's reffering to the last action set piece. He doesn't necceserally mean that this will be the final scene of the film. It's just like saying that the Venice sequence concluded Casino Royale, even though a few scenes followed on.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I agree I think the film ends in moscow. the soundtrack listing hints to that

Edited by Quantumofsolace007, 30 September 2008 - 12:41 PM.

[Greene217]

It definately does end in Moscow were Bond confronts Yusef and speaks to M

[dr. strangelove]

From the Empire article...

He liked what he got, as did Craig, but where Haggis had the film conclude in a flurry of snow- harkening to the alpine cool of On Her Majesties Secret Service - Forster pictured Bond against a desert.

I also believe there was another article a couple months ago quoting Forster saying that the last scene was originally shot in the snow, but Forster changed the ending to the desert.

Take it or leave it, I guess. The way it reads to me, it seems like it will end in the desert. Although, I can see how it can be interpreted a different way, with just the finale taking place in the desert. I guess we'll find out in one short month.

[Cody]

This review thread brought about a QOS dream I had last night.

I was watching QOS, the final battle had happened and the scene with Bond and Camille in the car followed. I was thinking, "Good, I wasn't spoiled. Camille does live" (as I want her to.) They say their goodbyes, Camille gets out of the car and walks away... Then a car comes screeching around a corner. A Quantum henchman leans out a back window and sprays Bond's car and Camille with machine gun fire. While Bond is reacting to this, seeing that Camille is dead, the killers speed off and get away. Very OHMSS.

[Quantumofsolace007]

So bond doesn't Quit ?


it's possible the film goes like this


greene's fate is undetrimed bond goes to moscow talks with Yusef Talks with M and quits the service


M replies "what happened to greene"

and then we get the flash back of bond driving away in the desert? leaving Greene Alive?


I would prefer the last shot be Bond walking away from M and the Service leaving us to wonnder what is next for James Bond?

Edited by Quantumofsolace007, 01 October 2008 - 02:45 AM.

[Elvenstar]

This review thread brought about a QOS dream I had last night.

I have qos dreams frequently and today's was a very wierd one ending with Aston/Alfa Romeo chase I was sitting and wondering "WTF? This is supposed to be at the beginning!"

On topic:
I would really loved to see the ending of Bond's resigning/talk with M, then cut to Greene saved by Quantum members. Its kind of sinister... Evil takes it all.
This Cody's OHMSS style ending would be great, for my taste.

Edited by Elvenstar, 01 October 2008 - 07:56 AM.