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[Ry]

God I love this teaser. I think it is perfect. Reminds you of the past while bringing in the excitement of the new film. Picking up the hat at the start is brilliant. This is going to be an amazing film in a summer that should have some other great blockbusters. Of course of the fall/winter will be the best as well. I have been a Indy fan all my life and this trailer gave me goosebumps from the start.

[Harmsway]

Batman Begins didn't exactly blow the world away with its gross; Casino Royale made about $230 million more!

BATMAN BEGINS didn't set the world on fire with its gross (partially because nobody in the general public was that hyped for it), but its DVD sales were through the roof, and the anticipation for the sequel is quite high. I imagine THE DARK KNIGHT will pull in considerably more than BEGINS did, but I would hardly expect it to top INDY.

Box office preditions:

INDIANA JONES IV - Domestic Gross: $350 million, Total: $700 million
THE DARK KNIGHT - Domestic Gross: $200 million, Total: $450 million
QUANTUM OF SOLACE - Domestic Gross: $180 million, Total: $650 million

[Judo chop]

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[Jim]

Hm.

Well, it exists.

[Tarl_Cabot]

Looks like a fun Indy movie. The storyline is MUCH more interesting than the Holy Grail thing...I love the alien connection. There's alot of CGI but my concern(s) is that is was filmed in Hawaii doubling for South America and that the locales won't be convincing...and he's never alone in any scenes. Otherwise, I'm sold.Opening day for sure.

[Mr_Wint]

Looks good!

Now, I'm really looking forward to the QoS teaser

[HildebrandRarity]

And you expect me to believe this is Lucas's/Spielberg's attempt at going up against James Bond?

Yup. And it will probably make more money than Bond, to boot.

You left out the rest of my quote. The one about Harry Potter.

I did not mean box office wise, Harmsway. I'm talking more in terms of genre and quality. Indy looks closer to Harry Potter than James Bond. But with a character at the very opposite end of the age spectrum.

But if you're thinking dollars, I would not go banco on it. My projection for Q0S is $750 million world wide.

(Before you laugh, let me remind people that I was the first person on CommanderBond.net (when it was run by "Blue Eyes" and "Dave") to suggest DAD would gross north of $420 million back in 2002...and I was the first to suggest CR would be closer to $550 million than the paltry $300million some were suggesting here.)

[The Dove]

Ohhh...YES!

Love the shadow silhouette on the side of the truck. I think Ford looks terrific. No worries whatsoever. The man with the hat is BACK!

I also loved the original music at the start of the trailer. Hope that's part of the new score.

I agree Zencat!! This looks awesome!!! Yes it truly is 1989 all over again.. This is going to give me the excuse I need to buy the other three Indy films on DVD.. (I've never actually owned them...sad isn't it? LOL)

[HildebrandRarity]

This year is all about two movies: Quantum Of Solace and The Dark Knight. Nothing else will come close.

I will eat Indy's hat if Dark Knight gets anywhere near Indiana in terms of box office.

Once again, I was not refering to box office grosses. I'm talking quality, here.

Da Vinci Code and Pirates grossed more than Casino Royale and were more hyped than it...but did that make them better? Or of a higher quality?

Why must it boil down to which blockbuster makes more in the US Domestic market? I have no idea how much they've spent on this Indy, but I do know that they're not only spending a very large amount to produce Bond, but they've also hired an execeptionally obscene amount of high calibre talent to try and make it better than the admittedly very high quality Casino Royale.

[killkenny kid]

but, seriously, couldn't and shouldn't this trailer have been a lot more impressive after all this time and hype?

I don't know about that, but in the words of New York's favorite drug dealing ex-cop. "It is, what it is!".......Looks like fun to me.

[baerrtt]

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[0024]

I had my reservations, but now I am at ease. Looks like the man with the hat is back. Where do I get my tickets?

[zencat]

I can't stop watching that trailer.

You know, that move up from the American flag is just so old school Spielberg. It's not just the man in hat who's back, so is the master storyteller who knows how to evoke emotion with a steady move of his camera.

Current crop of "directors"...sit down and learn how it's done. Yes, I'm talking to you, Michael Bey.

[stamper]

Michael Bay is produced by Spielberg... whaddaya say ?

[jaguar007]

Why must it boil down to which blockbuster makes more in the US Domestic market? I have no idea how much they've spent on this Indy, but I do know that they're not only spending a very large amount to produce Bond, but they've also hired an execeptionally obscene amount of high calibre talent to try and make it better than the admittedly very high quality Casino Royale.

Yes, QoS does have a very high calibre of talent, and I am glad at that. Indy 4 also has a very high calibre of talent behind it as well (Spielberg has one of the best track records of any modern director). I'm not saying that Indy 4 will be better than QoS or TDK, I just think it will live upto expectations as a high adventure good ride, just like the other Indy movies (save Raiders, which is a cinematical masterpiece if you ask me).

I'm sure Indy 4 will do just as well in the box office as the other Indy movies did. TLC made almost $500million worldwide in 1989(unadjusted). I belive Empire magazine estimated indy 4 would do close to $1 billion worldwide.

[Judo chop]

I get the impression from interviews that Spielberg wants this entry to be fun for all the family. Basically many aspects of Raiders (the violence for example) led to the Temple Of Doom which Spielberg, as is well documented, finds regrettable. The Last Crusade I suspect was the safe template he wanted these films to be all along and, let's be honest, aside from the violence there is nothing about the tone of Raiders that was/is gritty (whereas there are Bond films before CR that definitely had that feel).

In his own words (and the evidence speaks for itself really) he wants to make a movie free of darkness after doing 'serious' for the last 10 years (even blockbusters like MINORITY REPORT and WAR OF THE WORLDS had a dark tone to them).

Well,

[zencat]

Michael Bay is produced by Spielberg... whaddaya say ?

BEY: "You're a producer?"

SPIELBERG: "Part time!"

[Harmsway]

But why can’t we expect the ‘feel’ to come back? Is there really anything about the LOOK of Raiders that can’t be captured again?

Well, I think the look is something of a movement towards 1950s B-movies as opposed to 1930s B-movies, which are ultimately a different animal.

Why must it look and feel like Crusade?

Well, frankly, I don't think it feels and looks much like CRUSADE at all. It feels like its own thing. This is much more stylized, more visually interesting, and more epic than the rather unimpressive CRUSADE.

Yes, I’m arguing with Spielberg now, not you. If a return to Crusade is intentional, then shame on him.

From what I understand, the intention was to make KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL a sort of return to RAIDERS, but also an intentional move towards being its own, new thing.

[Tarl_Cabot]

One thing 'Crusade was sorely lacking in was 'jungle time'. This one appears to have it in spades.

[Agent 76]

the trailer looks amazing, the shadow of Indiana in the truck is a nice touch.

[Fro]

The only thing that really bothers me at all is a couple of the CG shots and the fact that the Cinematography is off from the old films in some of the scenes.

Trailer is awesome beyond that.

[Matt_13]

I nearly applauded at my computer screen when I saw Indy first crack the whip, phenomenal 1st trailer in my opinion, looks like it'll be a ton of fun!

[wonkabars]

The only thing that really bothers me at all is a couple of the CG shots and the fact that the Cinematography is off from the old films in some of the scenes.

Trailer is awesome beyond that.

I think this is a great/fair assessment.

I hope this film doesn't go the route of National Treasure or The Mummy in terms of over abundance of CG, but we will have to see.

Regardless, it is Harrison Ford as Indy, so I am not going to be that harsh on this film like I would others. What a great star and role combination.

[Harmsway]

I love these shots:











And if you look in the back, you can see John Hurt:

[Harry Fawkes]

Just viewed the trailer. Looks great.

[Judo chop]

Thanks for those, Harms. I viewed the trailer at work so I wasn't giving it its due attention. Taking some time to contemplate these... it's starting to look nice. (Except for that last one which smells entirely of Eau de Crusade.)

Still, all in all, I'm fairly excited.

[Harmsway]

Thanks for those, Harms. I viewed the trailer at work so I wasn't giving it its due attention. Taking some time to contemplate these... it's starting to look nice.

I think what's hard about the trailer is that it's a lot of action shots and not a lot of mood-setting. Many of the shots within the trailer itself set a fantastic, classic mood, but it's so tightly edited that none of them can sink in.

When we finally get a slower, more story-based theatrical trailer, I think the tone of KINGDOM will start to become clearer.

(Except for that last one which smells entirely of Eau de Crusade.)

Admittedly, it does. Very "Indy & Friends."

[Johnboy007]

I really cannot wait for this!

Yes!

[wonkabars]

He looks like Roger Moore did in Octopussy...not a good thing, imo. Different strokes for different folks.

Not even close. Despite his advanced age, Ford is in much better shape then Moore circa 83, where Rog was looking his most bloated.

I'm sorry but Harrison looks like a grandpa. I call it like I see it. A spade is a spade, etc. The only thing I can compare his involvement in this movie to is Connery in TLOEG a few years back...but even in that movie it looked as if Connery threw a punch, he'd knock you back hard on your . This looks unbelievable.

And you expect me to believe this is Lucas's/Spielberg's attempt at going up against James Bond? Try Harry Potter.

This year is all about two movies: Quantum Of Solace and The Dark Knight. Nothing else will come close.

All of this drivel is completely inane on so many levels...

[Loomis]

Why must it look and feel like Crusade?

Well, frankly, I don't think it feels and looks much like CRUSADE at all. It feels like its own thing. This is much more stylized, more visually interesting, and more epic than the rather unimpressive CRUSADE.

You're right, Harmsway, but what worries me most about CRYSTAL SKULL is that it may echo LAST CRUSADE not only in being a family affair for our hero but also in featuring an overmanned supporting cast of sidekicks. I fear we're going to get "Indy and the gang" again.

Besides, didn't Frank Marshall, Spielberg or someone recently state that CRYSTAL SKULL was closest to LAST CRUSADE?

On the plus side, yes, it does indeed seem a more visually imaginative film, and at least Connery isn't in it (as far as we know - I dread a cameo in the closing seconds).