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[SecretAgentFan]

The problem with one more Indy film with Ford is that it would have to be set in the 60s or early 70s to allow for his age now. And that is just not Indy territory any more. Indy should be set in the classic serial era and not go beyond, say, 1945. I'd even argue it should avoid WW II itself. Indy's world is one where magic - of a kind, anyway - is still a possibility; one where a certain naive sense of wonder is still prevalent. I feel that doesn't really mix well with WWII, with the Cold War and most of post-modern history. You can set a roaring adventure in pretty much any time, of course also in today's world. But it's simply not the same, no matter how hard you try to adapt the Indy atmosphere to the jet-age. That's why Raiders of the Lost Ark is a classic now, while The Jewel of the Nile is just another 80s popcorn flick.

 

Spot on observation!

[Royal Dalton]

Disney announces fifth 'Indiana Jones' movie: http://www.hollywood...na-jones-875794

[SecretAgentFan]

Strange.  If they announced it for a release next year or even early 2018 - but 2019?  WIth Harrison Ford playing Indiana Jones?

 

Ford is great and seemingly indestructible.  But really - how can he still play Indiana Jones at 77?

[tdalton]

Good.  At least this puts to rest the talk of Chris Pratt taking over the franchise, at least for now anyway.

[Tiin007]

Ford in this upcoming movie will be 18 years older than Connery was when he played Ford's father in Last Crusade. 

[Hockey Mask]

He survived a plane crash. He can handle it.

[S K Y F A L L]

YES!

So set in 1968...

[sharpshooter]

I'm up for this. And funnily enough, I don't hate KOTCS as much as I used to. 

[dtuba]

I'm actually less offended by this idea then I am by the Blade Runner sequel.

[SecretAgentFan]

I love that Denis Villeneuve directs the Blade Runner sequel, with Ford probably in a supporting role and a new Blade Runner played by Ryan Gosling.  

 

I also love the idea of Spielberg directing another Indiana Jones film.  But I´m afraid that despite my fondness for Harrison Ford it just can´t be done as it should be.  If Ford is 77 (or 76 during shooting) it won´t have the physicality of a true Indy film.

 

Of course, one does not need to be clairvoyant to expect Indiana Jones to take the backseat in this next film, ushering in the new guy who will take over in future sequels - since Disney will surely (and rightly so) want to build up the franchise like they did with STAR WARS.

 

The question is: does it make sense to go forward in time with Indiana Jones?  My take: it is rooted in another time and should focus on previous (untold) adventures, therefore needing a younger Indy.  Heck, Disney is following that model with the young Han Solo already.

 

I guess Chris Pratt is still in the running...

[thecasinoroyale]

Very pleased for this return from Ford and Spielberg - and not a George Lucas or Shia LaBeef in sight which reduces the risk of CGI aliens and naff father/son storyline done WRONG.

 

The age will be acknowledged, and I for one saw the proof Harrison can still deliver an age-related hero in an exciting and engaging way as he did with Han Solo in 'TFA'. Add a couple of years to him and I know he will do the same for Indiana Jones and I can't wait to see where they take the character, who deserves all the respect his natural journey and age will take him.

 

As for then doing "prequels" - it's brave, but I'd hate to see that as part of the Indiana Jones saga. Keep them separate - "Young Indy" or something because Harrison is our Indiana Jones and he has been for over 30 years now...let's honour that and let HIS character bow out and retire (hopefully) to please us all.

[SecretAgentFan]

Sure - but again: Disney will not have paid for Indiana Jones just to get one more movie out of it.  And people do age considerably during their 70´s.  I loved Ford in TFA, but one could see that fast movements already became difficult.  Add three more years and... well, I just hope this will turn out alright.

 

Then again, a movie announced for 2019 can easily disappear from the schedule again.

 

Sooner or later, there will be a reboot.  And I have no problem with someone taking over as Indiana Jones.

[Jim]

Indiana Jones and the Scraping of the Barrel.

 

Are there really no ideas any more? He writes, on a message board looking towards Bond number 25.

[marktmurphy]

Indiana Jones and the Scraping of the Barrel.

 

Are there really no ideas any more? He writes, on a message board looking towards Bond number 25.

 

Well there are loads. This just doesn't happen to be one of them, but that doesn't make it an automatically bad one.

[S K Y F A L L]

Indiana Jones and the Scraping of the Barrel.

 

Are there really no ideas any more? He writes, on a message board looking towards Bond number 25.

Weird right? A fifth film, really? Can't wait for BOND 25 though. LOL

 

 

I think it is a great idea. To think in 2008 RAMBO and KOTCS came out and now Rambo 5 is not happing but Indy is. I think that says a lot about the franchise. It is not just an action flick, hopefully you might learn something and have a thought provoking moment. If the films and characters we like never grow and evolved would we watch them?

 

I do NOT think they will REBOOT Indiana Jones. 'Raiders Of' will likely be the spin off.

[Professor Pi]

Indiana Jones and the Retirement Home of Death

 

Indiana Jones: Walkers, Wheelchairs and Whips

 

Indiana Jones and the Damn Kids on His Lawn

 

Indiana Jones and Why is the Music So Loud?

[SecretAgentFan]

Indiana Jones and the fans who believe ageism is funny because so many snark about it on the internet, yet they will watch this movie and enjoy it, even if it they may resort to do the fashionable thing to make fun of it.

[thecasinoroyale]

I'll defend this franchise until the end. I accept he's older and if we can't embrace older heroes who we literally have grown with, then I think that's a bad show. I even loved Roger in his late 50s as Bond because he WAS Bond, and that character was still that character I loved.

 

I know Ford will do this justice and anyone who doubts him, I feel, is worrying too much.

[Matt_13]

Well, my excitement lasted a few days at least. Unfortunately, the one bit of news I was dreading is now a reality. David Koepp will return to write the fifth Indy film.

 

http://collider.com/...er-david-koepp/

[SecretAgentFan]

Well, he´s Spielberg´s yes man...

[Gobi-1]

I'm not worry about his age. Harrison Ford is still a ways off from "Old Indy" territory so we're good. 

 

 

 

 

[Hockey Mask]

I never saw a minute of the Young Indy Chronicles. Are those worth looking up?

[Gobi-1]

Yes and no. The Young Indy Chronicles was all over the place in terms of timelines, places, and tones, it veers from excellent to wildly uneven and everywhere in between. The best episodes are the WWI stories with Sean Patrick Flannery. The series was originally presented in a one hour format with occasional 2 hour movies. As the series continued it abandoned the one hour shows in favor of the movie of the week format. One of these episodes, and one of the best in the series, is "Daredevils of the Deserts" which features a young Daniel Craig and Catherine Zeta Jones.

 

Unfortunately the episodes are not currently available to watch in their original broadcast format. The earlier one hour episodes were reedited together to make 2 hour "movies" to bring them inline with the later episodes which were produced as movies. This works well for some episodes but is jarring for others as the two halves have nothing in common save for Indy himself. The "Old Indy" bookends and narration were also sadly dropped. However Harrison Ford's bookends from "Young Indiana Jones and the Mystery of the Blues" remains intact.

 

A word of warning. Don't expect Indiana Jones style adventures. This is a series about history and historical characters and therefore the tone is very different from the feature films. It was also an experiment for digital cinema. Many of the CGI effects which were good for 1992 don't hold up today.

 

If you like history and like the time period of the early 20th century you should at least give them a look. Your mileage may vary.

[marktmurphy]

 

A word of warning. Don't expect Indiana Jones style adventures. 

 

You're right, and that was a massive and bizarre mistake. To use a brandname like that on something which just isn't it is bizarre.

[Gobi-1]

Well I seriously doubt the series would have even been picked up without the Indiana Jones name. If George Lucas had tried to pitch a show called "Young Boy Discovers The World"  no one would want it. The Indy character is used to draw you in and hopefully you'll find the drama and history of the early 20th century interesting. So while it is a bait and switch the intention was a noble one. To entertain and educate. It's not unlike using cartoon characters in school safety videos or using a celebrity in a drug awareness ads. It's gets kids and adults to look at something they might normally ignore. It worked for me. I loved the show and watched it religiously as a 10 year old. I trace my love for history directly to the show.

 

Looking back on it now in my 30s I think they certainly could have swung the balance more towards the adventure side without losing the educational element but as a kid I loved it and I still enjoy it today.

[SecretAgentFan]

Ready for some news on the future of INDIANA JONES?

 

Bob Iger, Disney´s head honcho, said this in a new interview with THR

You have another Lucasfilm property, Indiana Jones, and Steven Spielberg has agreed to make a fifth film. Will there be an Indiana Jones universe, eventually, like Star Wars?

 

Not like Star Wars, no. But we hope … right now, we're focused on a reboot, or a continuum and then a reboot of some sort.

 

Reboot? You've got Harrison Ford for this movie, and then the presumption is there will be a younger …

 

Well, we'll bring him back, then we have to figure out what comes next. That's what I mean. It's not really a reboot, it's a boot — a reboot. I don't know.

 

THR has been using the term "requel" for these sequels that reboot the franchise.

 

Requel. (Laughs.) We [got] Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones in the film. But then what's the direction? I've had discussions about what the direction is, [but] I don't want to get into it.

 

But you do see making more films?

 

Yes, I do. I don't think it reaches the scale of the universe of Star Wars, but I see making more. It won't be just a one-off.

[Dustin]

Thanks for digging this up - looks like they are really clueless. Is it possible they would rather not use Ford? He's well outside anything remotely connected with action now, so I don't see him carrying anything more than a prologue/epilogue part or perhaps narrating his adventures as a youth. None of this is very promising truth be told. With Indy people want to see the character in his prime, they want to see him run and sweat and fight and hate snakes and outsmart any number of ingenious ancient traps. The icon intro of Raiders is pretty much the blueprint; I don't see how they can credibly include Ford in this any more.

[Matt_13]

Really curious to see where they're going with this. Doesn't sound good, though.

[SecretAgentFan]

For a CEO he strangely allows an interview that definitely presents him as uninformed and rather uninterested.  I would have expected some clever PR phrases.  "It´s a boot.  A reboot.  I don´t know."  Excuse me?

[thecasinoroyale]

Example there of execs wanting to milk the cash cow but with no clear clue how the hell to do it.
 
They better not cock up the 5th outing.
 
http://www.slashfilm...5-george-lucas/
 
And the fact George Lucas is back as exec producer? Does that means Indy will find some alien time travel portal and end up able to converse with his younger self in the guise of a new actor who will then serve to continue the franchise as Young Indy, so it's the old 'Terminator' / 'X-Men' thingy of rebooting but keeping it in the same universe and timeline?
 
Ugh.