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#2461 tdalton

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Posted 01 February 2015 - 07:44 PM

I still think Ford should do one more.

 

I think that's what they should do as well.  One more Indiana Jones film with Ford in the lead, make it clearly the last one, and then retire the franchise.



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Posted 02 February 2015 - 01:26 AM

Does anybody really want to see another Harrison Ford movie? It might be unintentionally funny, but we all know it won't be any good. 



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Posted 02 February 2015 - 08:45 AM

I'd pay to see an 80yr old Clint Eastwood in a lead role, and I'd just as much pay to see Harrison Ford in another Indiana Jones film if it means we have the same character we saw back in 'ROTLA' a little older, but still able to wrap up the franchise.

 

Great actors just need to right material and care to make their film relevant to their age and cultural meaning. ('KOTCS' was close, but lost it's way greatly, and I blame Lucas who made Ford appear worse than he is).



#2464 tdalton

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Posted 02 February 2015 - 11:22 AM

I'm not exactly sure how we'd be certain that another Ford movie wouldn't be any good.  It's quite possible that they could come up with a script for an older Indy that would be terrific.  If they could make Rocky Balboa turn out well, with it being the sixth entry in the series and with a 60 year old Sylvester Stallone in the lead, then I would think that someone out there should be able to come up with something great for Ford.



#2465 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 02 February 2015 - 11:57 AM

The problem is: between the Harrison Ford of "Raiders" and the Harrison Ford of now lie about 40 years.  That´s tough for an action hero whose agility in hairraising action sequences was of major importance.

 

Would it be credible to have him in similar sequences?  When Sir Roger said farewell after AVTAK everybody said: he is getting too old.  

 

I think Ford should be allowed to retire from action films and do more character parts.  Indiana Jones can only be Indiana Jones if he still can cling to driving cars and tanks.  Another movie with him would pair him again with a younger hero taking over lots of action sequences - and why would I want to see that?

 

IMO, it´s time.  The Ford-Spielberg-era has ended for Doctor Jones.  A re-boot is the only sensible thing.

 

I would not want to see Daniel Craig in his 70´s still fighting Blofeld either.



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Posted 02 February 2015 - 04:13 PM

Good point I guess....I just, I don't know.

 

I think it's more annoyance at company's feeling they have to go back and re-invent the wheel for things that don't need to be touched. Why can't we be left with things to appreciate and enjoy for all generations new and old.

 

You don't HAVE to reboot Indiana Jones. Just leave it, and the memory we have. Don't reboot it.

 

If you want to, make prequels to Raiders. And I say prequels as I bet we'd only get 2, maybe 3. Films never seem to take off after the first 2 in this cut-throat era.



#2467 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 02 February 2015 - 04:39 PM

Well, Disney has not stated anything so far.  It all comes down to rumors.  And at this early stage everything can and probably will change.

 

Apart from that, a re-boot does not mean that everything has to change about Indiana Jones.  I really see it as an equivalent to Bond.  The original actor has grown out of the role.  A younger actor must take over.  Certain things will be adapted (like the timeframe of the stories, which actually would be a great thing since another Ford-Jones would take place in the 60´s now, and that is just not right for the character, IMO).

 

But the main thing will stay the same, I´m sure: the character of Indiana Jones.  Just like Bond essentially stays the same even 50 years later.



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Posted 02 February 2015 - 04:54 PM

But the main thing will stay the same, I´m sure: the character of Indiana Jones.  Just like Bond essentially stays the same even 50 years later.

THIS. Making sure audiences are aware that Pratt is playing the same character they know and love is all they need to do. Throw in some lines for Indy referring to his dad, Sallah, Marcus and others while acknowledging some already established mythos (the scar from his first time with the whip, fear of snakes, his rivalry with Belloq - heck, cast a young Belloq!) and you're well on your way.

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Posted 06 February 2015 - 03:31 PM

A young Belloq, that's a good idea. I always thought the backstory of those two would be interesting and we get too little of it in Raiders.

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Posted 06 February 2015 - 04:30 PM

A young Belloq, that's a good idea. I always thought the backstory of those two would be interesting and we get too little of it in Raiders.

I always thought one of their first encounters as graduate students at the University of Paris was both telling of their future relationship and quite funny - Belloq plagiarized one of Indy's research papers and won an award for it!

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 12:19 AM

Harrison Ford seriously injured in plane crash: http://variety.com/2...ash-1201447290/



#2472 thecasinoroyale

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 08:04 AM

Thankfully expected to make a full recovery!

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...canada-31759873

 

Scary situation, but I think we need to remember how experienced he is, and probably saved more injury to the public by doing what he did and how quickly he did it. Legend.



#2473 seawolfnyy

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 10:07 AM

I wouldn't expect anything less from him. Don't forget, he did make the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 12:30 PM

"I didn't know you could fly a plane." – "Fly, Yes. Land, No!"

 

Glad to hear that he wasn't injured too badly.



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Posted 05 May 2015 - 07:22 PM

LucasFilm confirm Indiana Jones 5 is happening....but not sure when...

 

http://www.slashfilm...es-5-confirmed/

 

 

 

I got a bad feeling about this.



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Posted 05 May 2015 - 07:30 PM

LucasFilm confirm Indiana Jones 5 is happening....but not sure when...
 
http://www.slashfilm...es-5-confirmed/
 
 
 
I got a bad feeling about this.

I, however, am stoked! If we get a Chris Pratt reboot or prequel, I'll be over the moon!

#2477 Simon

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Posted 05 May 2015 - 09:54 PM

Bad feeling?

 

As indeed did everyone have a bad feeling about permanently replacing Connery in 1972, and yet now we are all confidently predicting the next four actors to replace the existing success story.

 

Batman, Sherlock and Lord only knows how many other heroes are replaced, rejuvenated and rebooted with a modern day vigour as before never surpassed.

 

So really, what is the basis for your Bad Feeling.  (Other than for a duh duh Duuuhh moment)



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Posted 05 May 2015 - 10:14 PM

I just don't want to see Indiana Jones played by another actor. That's all I can say, and nothing will change that sadly in my brain.

 

Bond, I can take - but Indy....I can't.  :(



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Posted 05 May 2015 - 10:18 PM

Precedence, dear fella.

 

Your children will not know what you are concerned about.  As indeed you are not concerned about future incarnations of Bond.



#2480 glidrose

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Posted 05 May 2015 - 11:07 PM

Precedence, dear fella.
 
Your children will not know what you are concerned about.  As indeed you are not concerned about future incarnations of Bond.


And like Bond before him it's likely that future generations will have those who will openly prefer the second actor in the role, e.g. the Roger Moore of Indiana Jones actors. No doubt in the coming weeks we'll hear some people - not all, of course - who weren't around in 1985 openly profess that Tom Hardy is much better than Mel Gibson.

#2481 Call Billy Bob

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Posted 06 May 2015 - 03:22 AM

As indeed you are not concerned about future incarnations of Bond.

I am though, to an extent.



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Posted 06 May 2015 - 06:58 AM

 

LucasFilm confirm Indiana Jones 5 is happening....but not sure when...
 
http://www.slashfilm...es-5-confirmed/
 
 
 
I got a bad feeling about this.

I, however, am stoked! If we get a Chris Pratt reboot or prequel, I'll be over the moon!

 

 

Kennedy´s comments seem to imply that another Indy film is not happening within the next few years (I guess STAR WARS will keep them too busy).   

 

And although I can imagine Pratt doing a good job with the character, I am curious to see whether he will still be considered a suitable star in five years.  Sure, GUARDIANS 2 will be a massive hit, but already JURASSIC WORLD seems to have problems to generate enough buzz.



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Posted 06 May 2015 - 07:03 AM

Pratt is riding the "cool, cocky and hunky" wave from 'GOTG'. I don't think he's got the wide-appeal pulling power for Indiana Jones, and I fail to see his appeal leading the 'Jurassic World' film which looks very bland and run-of-the-mill indeed. 'GOTG' had the bigger draw...Marvel.

 

Pratt himself? Not so sure.



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Posted 06 May 2015 - 07:07 AM

But some time, my friend, Indy will be someone else.  

 

Prepare yourself.  For enjoying the next era.



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Posted 06 May 2015 - 03:14 PM

tcr, I feel your worries, I really do. For me, it needs to be the right person at the right time. Pratt checks all my boxes for a good Indiana Jones. 5+ years down the line, he may not... I just hope the spirit of the character is still intact no matter who plays him - and that they're not just doing this for money... ahh, hell, that's what it's always for!

But I'm skeptical nonetheless. Any time something precious to me gets remade or reintroduced, I get nervous.

#2486 tdalton

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Posted 06 May 2015 - 03:34 PM

Pratt is riding the "cool, cocky and hunky" wave from 'GOTG'. I don't think he's got the wide-appeal pulling power for Indiana Jones, and I fail to see his appeal leading the 'Jurassic World' film which looks very bland and run-of-the-mill indeed. 'GOTG' had the bigger draw...Marvel.

 

Pratt himself? Not so sure.

 

Agreed.

 

I think that they should either bring Ford back for another film or just let the franchise go.  It's not like Bond where Connery had only been on the job for a few years when it was time to recast again.  Ford has been the only actor to play the part in the franchise's now 34 year history.  If he's not going to play the part again, then it just needs to fade away and not be drudged up just so that Disney can make a buck off of it.  

 

And before I get the inevitable critical comments saying that it's naive to think that this is what they should do, I know that Disney won't let it rest.  But, that would be the right thing to do.  It's not what they will do, however.



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Posted 06 May 2015 - 05:53 PM

One more Ford Indy film and agreed, then they should retire the franchise.



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Posted 07 May 2015 - 05:57 AM

Can't say I would be entertained by another Indiana Jones film. Whether Ford returns or Chris Pratt takes the role. Franchise should be left alone, but since it's in Disney hands now, that's not going to happen. I'm just sick of Chris Pratt already.



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Posted 07 May 2015 - 06:59 AM

The problem with one more Indy film with Ford is that it would have to be set in the 60s or early 70s to allow for his age now. And that is just not Indy territory any more. Indy should be set in the classic serial era and not go beyond, say, 1945. I'd even argue it should avoid WW II itself. Indy's world is one where magic - of a kind, anyway - is still a possibility; one where a certain naive sense of wonder is still prevalent. I feel that doesn't really mix well with WWII, with the Cold War and most of post-modern history. You can set a roaring adventure in pretty much any time, of course also in today's world. But it's simply not the same, no matter how hard you try to adapt the Indy atmosphere to the jet-age. That's why Raiders of the Lost Ark is a classic now, while The Jewel of the Nile is just another 80s popcorn flick.

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 07:09 AM

I guess the only evidence we can see how Disney/LucasFilm will handle Ford in an action film will be in December with 'The Force Awakens'. Be it he's not a lead, so wouldn't have as much screen time as Indiana Jones, but will still be interesting to see how he comes across and how much he "looks" like he can do.