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[ACE]

I'm probably coming across as an old miseryguts determined to knock this film in a bid to seem more highbrow than the average Joe,

Well, not every return of a beloved action hero after many years when the iconic actor who created the part was seemingly past it can be as good (or highbrow!) as Rambo. Or Rocky!

[stromberg]

Doesn't look too bad, but I'll make my final judgement after I've seen in good quality.

BTW, it has been shown before the 'John Rambo' advance premieres yesterday over here in Germany.

[MattofSteel]

Gets me excited. I didn't expect anything revolutionary or mind-blowing from the action, if it were too far off what we've seen before it wouldn't be Indy. At the same time some of the stunts and shots look quite interesting - love the crane shot while he's swinging across.

Looks, feels, and sounds like classic Indy. That's all I wanted.

[Zorin Industries]

This is what Spielberg continues to do when he's not allowed to direct a Bond film...

http://movies.yahoo....tml?showVideo=1

[HildebrandRarity]

He looks like Roger Moore did in Octopussy...not a good thing, imo. Different strokes for different folks.

[Hotwinds]

Thanks for the link. I will seeing it for sure at the cinema.

This is what Spielberg continues to do when he's not allowed to direct a Bond film...

http://movies.yahoo....tml?showVideo=1

[dodge]

Looks awesome. I'll be there and I don't give a hoot if HF's 65 or 70. Since the storyline's set 20 years after the last one, they're clearly dealing with the age thing. And Ford looks sinewy enough. The only question I have is whether Spielberg has been able to get HF back into Indy thought mode after a long string of increasingly unrelaxed performances. But I say Yea and, for now, I am a believer!

[stromberg]

Topics merged.

(I know, it's Indy, but one thread should be sufficient for now )

[Harmsway]

Why is this merged into Sean Connery? It was in general discussion and should have stayed there (Sean Connery isn't in this movie!).

[Mr Teddy Bear]

Why is this merged into Sean Connery? It was in general discussion and should have stayed there (Sean Connery isn't in this movie!).

Agreed! I was scratching my head when I saw the move.

Anyway, you can now get the trailer in HD at the official site!

He looks like Roger Moore did in Octopussy...not a good thing, imo. Different strokes for different folks.

Not even close. Despite his advanced age, Ford is in much better shape then Moore circa 83, where Rog was looking his most bloated.

[Harmsway]

Why is this merged into Sean Connery? It was in general discussion and should have stayed there (Sean Connery isn't in this movie!).

Agreed! I was scratching my head when I saw the move.

To quote Indy Jones:

"This belongs in a [general discussion thread]!"

Not even close. Despite his advanced age, Ford is in much better shape then Moore circa 83, where Rog was looking his most bloated.

Agreed.

[Lounge Lizard]

Trouble is, this big reveal was nothing particularly stunning. The trailer's main problem is that the action scenes look pretty run-of-the-mill-for-a-CGI-stuffed Hollywood-blockbuster. How great would it be if this trailer promised truly eye-popping, not-obviously-CGI-ridden action sequences that felt fresh and gripping (a la the African Rundown in CASINO ROYALE or the rooftop chase in THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM)? I'm not calling for ultra-realism in an Indiana Jones movie - I know full well the genre it belongs to and I don't say it should be turned into Bourne; also, I know that this is only a trailer and that the vast majority of CRYSTAL SKULL remains under wraps. However, the thrills and spills definitely seem to me more "tired" than "mindblowing".

I'm probably coming across as an old miseryguts determined to knock this film in a bid to seem more highbrow than the average Joe, but, seriously, couldn't and shouldn't this trailer have been a lot more impressive after all this time and hype?

My sentiments exactly, and I don't think it has anything to do with being pretentious. The makers insist that Crystal Skull has been shot strictly in the style of a 1957 adventure flick, but that's not what I saw here. I'm not expecting deliberately crappy model work, as I would have expected when someone like Tarantino had stepped in, but from the looks of this, the rough edges of Indy have been replaced with a bland CGI sheen. As with Bond, the thing with Indy is that for the most part, you have to deliver what you have promised the audience.

Having said that, Ford looks great. As does Blanchett, I hope she'll have some wicked fun with the part. The shot most impeccably Indy is Our Hero picking up his fedora and 'completing' his shadow by putting it on.

So, yes, although the short behind-the-scenes clip for QoS excited me much more than this teaser trailer, I'm still very much looking forward to Crystal Skull. I'm looking forward especially to the dynamics between the actors. This is a great cast, and we've seen nothing of Hurt and Broadbent yet.

[00Twelve]

Looks pretty great to me. You have GOT to admit, that beautiful little shot and sequence - Running on crates, whip, swing, windshield - is pretty classic, and the shot of the whip swing itself was awesome.

The last several bits, with the typical-of-Lucas CG work, were still exciting, despite reminding me of the difference between the looks of the old Star Wars movies and the new ones. At least this time, the continuity has moved forward, so it's understandable that it looks a bit more modern (strictly with regards to effects).

Overall, it's a great, great, great teaser. Ford looks like he could do nearly any of the old school stunts again (and probably did do quite a few of his own). His voice is even much the same timbre. That's pretty impressive, IMO.

Indy's back, kids.

[stromberg]

Why is this merged into Sean Connery? It was in general discussion and should have stayed there (Sean Connery isn't in this movie!).

Agreed! I was scratching my head when I saw the move.

To quote Indy Jones:

"This belongs in a [general discussion thread]!"

Not even close. Despite his advanced age, Ford is in much better shape then Moore circa 83, where Rog was looking his most bloated.

Agreed.

Hoppla, didn't notice that it was moved into the SC forums with the merging. Fixed

[Zorin Industries]

Topics merged.

(I know, it's Indy, but one thread should be sufficient for now )

Ok - although it felt that the unveiling of this new teaser should perhaps start a thread based on what we can see for ourselves not the months of speculating before. But this is a Bond site granted...

[Loomis]

Trouble is, this big reveal was nothing particularly stunning. The trailer's main problem is that the action scenes look pretty run-of-the-mill-for-a-CGI-stuffed Hollywood-blockbuster. How great would it be if this trailer promised truly eye-popping, not-obviously-CGI-ridden action sequences that felt fresh and gripping (a la the African Rundown in CASINO ROYALE or the rooftop chase in THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM)? I'm not calling for ultra-realism in an Indiana Jones movie - I know full well the genre it belongs to and I don't say it should be turned into Bourne; also, I know that this is only a trailer and that the vast majority of CRYSTAL SKULL remains under wraps. However, the thrills and spills definitely seem to me more "tired" than "mindblowing".

I'm probably coming across as an old miseryguts determined to knock this film in a bid to seem more highbrow than the average Joe, but, seriously, couldn't and shouldn't this trailer have been a lot more impressive after all this time and hype?

My sentiments exactly, and I don't think it has anything to do with being pretentious. The makers insist that Crystal Skull has been shot strictly in the style of a 1957 adventure flick, but that's not what I saw here. I'm not expecting deliberately crappy model work, as I would have expected when someone like Tarantino had stepped in, but from the looks of this, the rough edges of Indy have been replaced with a bland CGI sheen. As with Bond, the thing with Indy is that for the most part, you have to deliver what you have promised the audience.

Having said that, Ford looks great. As does Blanchett, I hope she'll have some wicked fun with the part. The shot most impeccably Indy is Our Hero picking up his fedora and 'completing' his shadow by putting it on.

So, yes, although the short behind-the-scenes clip for QoS excited me much more than this teaser trailer, I'm still very much looking forward to Crystal Skull. I'm looking forward especially to the dynamics between the actors. This is a great cast, and we've seen nothing of Hurt and Broadbent yet.

Or Karen Allen, unless I blinked and missed her.

Agreed about the "bland CGI sheen", but at least it seems as though some of that good old-fashioned Indiana Jones flick wit may be intact. Ford looks good and as amusingly grumpy as ever.

Presumably there will be a second trailer in April or thereabouts?

[Harmsway]

Or Karen Allen, unless I blinked and missed her.

She's there, but only in a few shots in the background.

Agreed about the "bland CGI sheen", but at least it seems as though some of that good old-fashioned Indiana Jones flick wit may be intact. Ford looks good and as amusingly grumpy as ever.

Exactly. I don't particularly relish the new Kaminski polished look (I loved the grit of earlier installments), but Harrison looks good as ever and the Indiana Jones spirit does come through.

Presumably there will be a second trailer in April or thereabouts?

Actually, there's the possibility of two more trailers. According to official release, this is the first teaser trailer. Expect some more story-driven trailers in the future.

[00Twelve]

Trouble is, this big reveal was nothing particularly stunning. The trailer's main problem is that the action scenes look pretty run-of-the-mill-for-a-CGI-stuffed Hollywood-blockbuster. How great would it be if this trailer promised truly eye-popping, not-obviously-CGI-ridden action sequences that felt fresh and gripping (a la the African Rundown in CASINO ROYALE or the rooftop chase in THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM)? I'm not calling for ultra-realism in an Indiana Jones movie - I know full well the genre it belongs to and I don't say it should be turned into Bourne; also, I know that this is only a trailer and that the vast majority of CRYSTAL SKULL remains under wraps. However, the thrills and spills definitely seem to me more "tired" than "mindblowing".

I'm probably coming across as an old miseryguts determined to knock this film in a bid to seem more highbrow than the average Joe, but, seriously, couldn't and shouldn't this trailer have been a lot more impressive after all this time and hype?

My sentiments exactly, and I don't think it has anything to do with being pretentious. The makers insist that Crystal Skull has been shot strictly in the style of a 1957 adventure flick, but that's not what I saw here. I'm not expecting deliberately crappy model work, as I would have expected when someone like Tarantino had stepped in, but from the looks of this, the rough edges of Indy have been replaced with a bland CGI sheen. As with Bond, the thing with Indy is that for the most part, you have to deliver what you have promised the audience.

Having said that, Ford looks great. As does Blanchett, I hope she'll have some wicked fun with the part. The shot most impeccably Indy is Our Hero picking up his fedora and 'completing' his shadow by putting it on.

So, yes, although the short behind-the-scenes clip for QoS excited me much more than this teaser trailer, I'm still very much looking forward to Crystal Skull. I'm looking forward especially to the dynamics between the actors. This is a great cast, and we've seen nothing of Hurt and Broadbent yet.

Or Karen Allen, unless I blinked and missed her.

Agreed about the "bland CGI sheen", but at least it seems as though some of that good old-fashioned Indiana Jones flick wit may be intact. Ford looks good and as amusingly grumpy as ever.

Presumably there will be a second trailer in April or thereabouts?

Yeah, you missed her. But she really was just there for a blink...right at the end, just before "Part time." It's a frontal view of her, Mutt, and Indy in a jeep, and they all duck.

[Bryce (003)]

I'm IN!

[Judo chop]

I watched Zorin

[JimmyBond]

This is everything I could have asked for in a teaser. INDY IS BACK!

[Harmsway]

[quote name='Judo chop' post='838157' date='14 February 2008 - 09:52']I watched Zorin

[Jackanaples]

It feels more in the vein of LAST CRUSADE than RAIDERS here, and I suspect that I'm not going to really like it. The fears for my enjoyment of CRYSTAL SKULL have been pretty much locked in since they went with a script by David Koepp over one by Frank Darabont (Koepp has never written a movie I liked, Darabont has written a few I love).

That aside, on May 22nd I'll be a movie theater ready and willing to be blown away by INDY 4. I'm sure I'll like it better than the third one at any rate.

[Harmsway]

It feels more in the vein of LAST CRUSADE than RAIDERS here, and I suspect that I'm not going to really like it.

My problems with LAST CRUSADE were that it lacked an ingenuity and creativity in every facet of its production, that the comedy came at the expense of the characters, and that it lost the "adventure serial" feel. I don't think any of that can be said for KINGDOM, based on this trailer.

[HildebrandRarity]

He looks like Roger Moore did in Octopussy...not a good thing, imo. Different strokes for different folks.

Not even close. Despite his advanced age, Ford is in much better shape then Moore circa 83, where Rog was looking his most bloated.

I'm sorry but Harrison looks like a grandpa. I call it like I see it. A spade is a spade, etc. The only thing I can compare his involvement in this movie to is Connery in TLOEG a few years back...but even in that movie it looked as if Connery threw a punch, he'd knock you back hard on your . This looks unbelievable.

And you expect me to believe this is Lucas's/Spielberg's attempt at going up against James Bond? Try Harry Potter.

This year is all about two movies: Quantum Of Solace and The Dark Knight. Nothing else will come close.

[Harmsway]

I'm sorry but Harrison looks like a grandpa. I call it like I see it. A spade is a spade, etc. The only thing I can compare his involvement in this movie to is Connery in TLOEG a few years back...but even in that movie it looked as if Connery threw a punch, he'd knock you back hard on your . This looks unbelievable.

I respectfully disagree. I think Ford looks to be in fabulous shape, and as convincing as he's ever been.

And you expect me to believe this is Lucas's/Spielberg's attempt at going up against James Bond?

Yup. And it will probably make more money than Bond, to boot.

[jaguar007]

And you expect me to believe this is Lucas's/Spielberg's attempt at going up against James Bond?

Yup. And it will probably make more money than Bond, to boot.

It will probably be the #1 movie of 2008 worldwide. TDK might give it a good run in the US, but not internationally.

It is the #2 movie on my must see list this year (QoS being #1) and I am totally excited to see it. Ford's age does not bother me since he is playing it at his age (and it takes place 20 years after the last Indy movie) - it not like Roger Moore in his last couple Bond films where he playes it as a younger man.

The CGI is a bit bothersome, but at least we still have Bond to give us the action and peril for real.

For some reason, I think this will be a let down. (Cough...Episode I-III...cough cough)

The big difference between Indy4 and ep 1-3 is the director. Lucas is not directing IJKOTKS, Spielberg is.

[zencat]

Ohhh...YES!

Love the shadow silhouette on the side of the truck. I think Ford looks terrific. No worries whatsoever. The man with the hat is BACK!

I also loved the original music at the start of the trailer. Hope that's part of the new score.

[marktmurphy]

This year is all about two movies: Quantum Of Solace and The Dark Knight. Nothing else will come close.

I will eat Indy's hat if Dark Knight gets anywhere near Indiana in terms of box office. Batman Begins didn't exactly blow the world away with its gross; Casino Royale made about $230 million more! Bats'll do well, but Indy's the big movie here. Kids'll be able to see it, which is enough to make it beat Batman on its own.

[Harmsway]

I also loved the original music at the start of the trailer. Hope that's part of the new score.

I don't think so. As far as I'm aware, Williams just started conducting the score, and this trailer was completed a while ago.

Anyway, it was suggested on another board that the new look is perhaps not so inappropriate. Lucas often said they were trying to capture the 1950s B-movie feel, which is admittedly a different feel than that of 1930s adventure serials (often accompanied by a more polished look).