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[DamnCoffee]

Yes. It was intentional.

[MHazard]

Irritants to me in Bond films (in no particular order):

1. Every single appearance of the actor playing Felix Leiter in GF;

2. Whistling midgets and "this never happened to the other fellow" in OHMSS (I hate breaking the fourth wall in a Bond film that actually can be taken seriously);

3. Jet Pack in TB (yes it's cool but what "secret agent" escapes by flying over Paris);

4. Jaws (giant irritation);

5. Volcano lairs, spaceship eating spaceships and submarine eating ships;

6. "you've just killed James Bond" in DAF;

7. Bond forgetting his wife's been murdered in DAF;

8. Charles Gray as Blofeld; and

9. Roger Moore

At least he's moving down on your list, MHaz. The therapy appears to be working!

Edit: Crap. Just noticed your parenthetical disclaimer. Never mind.

Actually, Judo, I find Roger less irritating than one of the other 8 entries on my list. Do you care to guess which one?

[Mr. Blofeld]

Irritants to me in Bond films (in no particular order):

1. Every single appearance of the actor playing Felix Leiter in GF;

2. Whistling midgets and "this never happened to the other fellow" in OHMSS (I hate breaking the fourth wall in a Bond film that actually can be taken seriously);

3. Jet Pack in TB (yes it's cool but what "secret agent" escapes by flying over Paris);

4. Jaws (giant irritation);

5. Volcano lairs, spaceship eating spaceships and submarine eating ships;

6. "you've just killed James Bond" in DAF;

7. Bond forgetting his wife's been murdered in DAF;

8. Charles Gray as Blofeld; and

9. Roger Moore

At least he's moving down on your list, MHaz. The therapy appears to be working!

Edit: Crap. Just noticed your parenthetical disclaimer. Never mind.

Actually, Judo, I find Roger less irritating than one of the other 8 entries on my list. Do you care to guess which one?

Erm... whistling midgets?

[HH007]

Irritants to me in Bond films (in no particular order):

1. Every single appearance of the actor playing Felix Leiter in GF;

2. Whistling midgets and "this never happened to the other fellow" in OHMSS (I hate breaking the fourth wall in a Bond film that actually can be taken seriously);

3. Jet Pack in TB (yes it's cool but what "secret agent" escapes by flying over Paris);

4. Jaws (giant irritation);

5. Volcano lairs, spaceship eating spaceships and submarine eating ships;

6. "you've just killed James Bond" in DAF;

7. Bond forgetting his wife's been murdered in DAF;

8. Charles Gray as Blofeld; and

9. Roger Moore

At least he's moving down on your list, MHaz. The therapy appears to be working!

Edit: Crap. Just noticed your parenthetical disclaimer. Never mind.

Actually, Judo, I find Roger less irritating than one of the other 8 entries on my list. Do you care to guess which one?

Erm... whistling midgets?

Charles Gray as Blofeld?

[MHazard]

Certainly, worthy guesses, but not the correct answer (although Charles Gray was really annoying as Blofeld). There are still six possibilities left.

[HH007]

Felix in GF?

[Scrambled Eggs]

Certainly, worthy guesses, but not the correct answer (although Charles Gray was really annoying as Blofeld). There are still six possibilities left.

I'm going to guess the breaking of the 4th wall in OHMSS gets you the most.

Not as bad as the breaking the 4th wall at the end of NSNA though. That wink is the stuff of nightmares.

[MHazard]

Interesting. Philosophically, is it worse to take a good movie that's recognizably based on Fleming and slightly ruin it by breaking the fourth wall or casting someone whollly inappropriate as an important character or is it worse to have a totally ridiculous element that turns the Bond movies into the spy version of the Batman t.v. show? No point keeping the suspense. I find JAWS worse than Roger Moore. I find the GF Leiter almost as bad as Roger Moore. I also find the fact that the plot of YOLT the novel was thrown away and replaced by YOLT the movie unforgiveable, but that's outside the scope of the topic. (FYI, S.E. I owe you some additional and more specific literary criticism).

[Mr. Blofeld]

I also find the fact that the plot of YOLT the novel was thrown away and replaced by YOLT the movie unforgiveable, but that's outside the scope of the topic.

Agreed; they only did YOLT before OHMSS because Lewis Gilbert had an unfulfilled picture deal with Harry Saltzman, and EON had already promised OHMSS to Peter Hunt.

[Double-0-Seven]

Here's another one I thought of while watching Licence To Kill last night. In the pre-title sequence when Bond and Leiter parachute from the plane, it appears they are extremely high in the air and you can't see the church at all. Yet when we are given a view of the action from the church, it appears that they weren't quite high.

A similar thing happens later when Bond steals the plane and pulls the latch on the door and knocks the guy out of the plane with it. The guy falling is thousands of feet in the air, yet just a few seconds later when he knocks the other guy out of the plane, he's only a couple hundred feet above the water.

[DaveBond21]

Yes it does, but where are the cameras coming from? They show side views of Blofeld's spaceship heading toward the US spaceship. What do they have, a second spaceship following the main spaceship? I never understood that!

Surprised they didn't bring Andy Gray in to do the commentary.

I can just hear Andy's commentary:-


"Wonderful effort there from Blofeld's boys. They really opened up the spaceship. NASA fans will argue that he was well offside, but that doesn't take away the brilliance of the move. Just look at the way the lifeline was cut! There's nothing that NASA could do about that!"

[Mr. Blofeld]

I can just hear Andy's commentary:-


"Wonderful effort there from Blofeld's boys. They really opened up the spaceship. NASA fans will argue that he was well offside, but that doesn't take away the brilliance of the move. Just look at the way the lifeline was cut! There's nothing that NASA could do about that!"

Never mind Andy Gray; just think of John Madden!

[Scaramanga'74]

- Why did Goldfinger go through all the trouble in organizing the hoodlums

[DaveBond21]

[quote]- Bond told Henderson he

[Major Tallon]

Ah, you see, Bond studied Cantonese. The keyboard is in Mandarin. (Or maybe that's the other way around.)

[Daddy Bond]

Ah, you see, Bond studied Cantonese. The keyboard is in Mandarin. (Or maybe that's the other way around.)

Are the symbols different for Cantonese and Mandarin? I don't know, just curious.

Ah, you see, Bond studied Cantonese. The keyboard is in Mandarin. (Or maybe that's the other way around.)

Are the symbols different for Cantonese and Mandarin? I don't know, just curious.

Either way, it does seem strange that Bond couldn't operate it.

[Mr. Blofeld]

[quote name='Scaramanga'74' post='836886' date='11 February 2008 - 21:38']- Bond told Henderson he

[Vauxhall]

Ah, you see, Bond studied Cantonese. The keyboard is in Mandarin. (Or maybe that's the other way around.)

Are the symbols different for Cantonese and Mandarin? I don't know, just curious.

Both languages use the same written characters with a few exceptions, therefore I guess that someone who knew Cantonese could pretty much understand written Mandarin too.

[MHazard]

And James Bond is the smartest man in the world, he can speak Asian languages like a native, knows more about butterlies off the top of his head than M, knows how long the radiation from a dirty nuclear device would take to dissipate and pretty much knows more about anything than anyone. I didn't mention this before but the whole turning Bond into a genius superman, whom all women want to sleep with within 30 seconds of meeting, rather than a highly skilled agent, with considerable talent, who is very successful with women but generally does not bed them the moment he meets them (sometimes not even at all, see MR the novel) is a major irritation of the Bond films and my biggest criticism of the Sean Bond.

[DaveBond21]

And James Bond is the smartest man in the world, he can speak Asian languages like a native, knows more about butterlies off the top of his head than M, knows how long the radiation from a dirty nuclear device would take to dissipate and pretty much knows more about anything than anyone. I didn't mention this before but the whole turning Bond into a genius superman, whom all women want to sleep with within 30 seconds of meeting, rather than a highly skilled agent, with considerable talent, who is very successful with women but generally does not bed them the moment he meets them (sometimes not even at all, see MR the novel) is a major irritation of the Bond films and my biggest criticism of the Sean Bond.

I've had three women want to sleep with me the night they met me, so surely James Bond would have more? If not, maybe they should make movies about me.

[MHazard]

If the women wanted to sleep with you within 30 seconds of meeting you, then they should make a movie about you.

On another note, I realized that I have omitted the number 1, with a bullet, most irritating thing in a James Bond movie. This is more irritating than Roger Moore, more irritating than Jaws, more irritating than anything else I can think of in any James Bond movie:

SHERIFF J.W. PEPPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dodge]

And James Bond is the smartest man in the world, he can speak Asian languages like a native, knows more about butterlies off the top of his head than M, knows how long the radiation from a dirty nuclear device would take to dissipate and pretty much knows more about anything than anyone. I didn't mention this before but the whole turning Bond into a genius superman, whom all women want to sleep with within 30 seconds of meeting, rather than a highly skilled agent, with considerable talent, who is very successful with women but generally does not bed them the moment he meets them (sometimes not even at all, see MR the novel) is a major irritation of the Bond films and my biggest criticism of the Sean Bond.

I've had three women want to sleep with me the night they met me, so surely James Bond would have more? If not, maybe they should make movies about me.

Don't be so modest. Probably more than three--the others were too shy to tell you.

[bonds_walther]

The crap sound synch in the early films. Saying that, I guess it's just because of when the films were made.

[MHazard]

No it's that almost everyone except Sean was having their dialogue re-dubbed by another actor/actress (Ursula, Gert Frobe, Adolpho Celi, Claudine Auger, Daneila Bianchi-I think Honor Blackman got to do her own lines).

[Shaun Forever]

I can just hear Andy's commentary:-


"Wonderful effort there from Blofeld's boys. They really opened up the spaceship. NASA fans will argue that he was well offside, but that doesn't take away the brilliance of the move. Just look at the way the lifeline was cut! There's nothing that NASA could do about that!"

That is spot on

[Vauxhall]

I've had three women want to sleep with me the night they met me, so surely James Bond would have more? If not, maybe they should make movies about me.

Welcome to my world, Dave! On that note, will shortly be heading out to see what there is out and about this fine Valentine's Day night!

[DaveBond21]

I can just hear Andy's commentary:-


"Wonderful effort there from Blofeld's boys. They really opened up the spaceship. NASA fans will argue that he was well offside, but that doesn't take away the brilliance of the move. Just look at the way the lifeline was cut! There's nothing that NASA could do about that!"

That is spot on

Thanks....

[ronbond]

1. Carey Lowell is wall-eyed in LTK.
2. Connery's pink tie outfit in DAF.
3. The water that goes past Bond in the pipe during his escape in Dr. No, then there is a grate he climbs out of, and the floor is dry.
4. Poor CGI in DAD.
5. Felix Leiter goes from pants to shorts and back during the helicopter scene in TB.
6. Poor dubbing in the "Cairo!" beating administered by Connery to the Japanese guy at the start of the DAF teaser.
7. The "Russian" rocket launch in YOLT has palm trees in the foreground.
8. Bond says in YOLT he's never been to Japan, yet in FRWL he starts to talk on tape about an interesting experience he and M had there.
9. The "stirred not shaken" martini in YOLT.
10. Blofeld not recognizing Bond in OHMSS.

[Daddy Bond]

1. Carey Lowell is wall-eyed in LTK.
2. Connery's pink tie outfit in DAF.
3. The water that goes past Bond in the pipe during his escape in Dr. No, then there is a grate he climbs out of, and the floor is dry.
4. Poor CGI in DAD.
5. Felix Leiter goes from pants to shorts and back during the helicopter scene in TB.
6. Poor dubbing in the "Cairo!" beating administered by Connery to the Japanese guy at the start of the DAF teaser.
7. The "Russian" rocket launch in YOLT has palm trees in the foreground.
8. Bond says in YOLT he's never been to Japan, yet in FRWL he starts to talk on tape about an interesting experience he and M had there.
9. The "stirred not shaken" martini in YOLT.
10. Blofeld not recognizing Bond in OHMSS.

Good ones. This is probably a good thread to vent on errors in the Bond films as well.

[HH007]

10. Blofeld not recognizing Bond in OHMSS.

Kind of like how people never recognize Clark Kent as being Superman? It's all in the glasses...