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#271 ronbond

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Posted 23 February 2008 - 04:43 AM

9. The "stirred not shaken" martini in YOLT.



ronbond, this was Bond just being polite to Henderson. You can tell by his face that he isn't impressed.



Now that's funny -- I always took the look on his face as just Connery being tired of the role. Certainly his performance in YOLT is a bit lacking in enthusiasm compared to the previous films.

#272 DamnCoffee

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Posted 24 February 2008 - 05:23 PM

I'm watching [film=99]On Her Majesty

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Posted 24 February 2008 - 07:19 PM

One of the many things that always irritates me in TND is why it takes Wai Lin so long to use her earring handcuff key to uncuff herself from Bond.

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Posted 24 February 2008 - 09:28 PM

[quote name='Mharkin007' post='842423' date='24 February 2008 - 12:23']I'm watching [film=99]On Her Majesty

#275 DaveBond21

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Posted 24 February 2008 - 10:01 PM

TLD - I always wish that Koskov had been killed when his jeep appears to explode, but he then escapes the flames. That would have been a good way for him to have died.

#276 Napoleon Solo

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Posted 24 February 2008 - 10:06 PM

5. Felix in LTK being played by an actor who last played him almost 15 years earlier.


You'd've had him played by John Terry? :tup:


They should've brought back Jack Lord. :tup:


He might have had a little bit of trouble remembering his lines...

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Posted 24 February 2008 - 10:11 PM

GF - The Bomb countdown: The timer takes a month to get from 011 to 007, and Felix and Co. run down eight flights of stairs in about 4 seconds. Then Bond tells us that "three more ticks and Mr. Goldfinger would have hit the jackpot", which makes no sense.

#278 Napoleon Solo

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Posted 24 February 2008 - 10:43 PM

GF - The Bomb countdown: The timer takes a month to get from 011 to 007, and Felix and Co. run down eight flights of stairs in about 4 seconds. Then Bond tells us that "three more ticks and Mr. Goldfinger would have hit the jackpot", which makes no sense.


As I understand it, the script called for the countdown to end at 0:03, but in post-production it was decided to make it 0:07.

More generally, films don't have to take place in real time, even within the same scene. That's a technique that goes back to silent films. (I remember taking a film course that said "The Great Train Robbery" established this as a legitimate editing technique).

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 12:48 AM

One of the many things that always irritates me in TND is why it takes Wai Lin so long to use her earring handcuff key to uncuff herself from Bond.

That's always irritated me as well. She could have easily used it before they hopped on the motorcycle, or even before they slid down the banner on the side of the Carver building.

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 02:52 AM

The annoying Foreign Secretary in Thunderball. He was so cranky and dour he made M look like James Bond in comparison. Every 5 minutes they cut back to him shrugging "looks like payment will have to be made" "we'll have to pay and look as happy as we cant shan't we?" "youre man has a, shall we say, sense of drama? Huff huff huff!" I just wanted M to punch him in his mouth.

#281 Mr. Blofeld

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 03:03 AM

More generally, films don't have to take place in real time, even within the same scene. That's a technique that goes back to silent films. (I remember taking a film course that said "The Great Train Robbery" established this as a legitimate editing technique).

At the time The Great Train Robbery was released, people were not yet used to intercutting between scenes, so it was just one long-shot... after one long-shot... after one long-shot, and on and on... well, you get the point. :tup:

#282 Napoleon Solo

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 03:19 AM

More generally, films don't have to take place in real time, even within the same scene. That's a technique that goes back to silent films. (I remember taking a film course that said "The Great Train Robbery" established this as a legitimate editing technique).

At the time The Great Train Robbery was released, people were not yet used to intercutting between scenes, so it was just one long-shot... after one long-shot... after one long-shot, and on and on... well, you get the point. :tup:


Here's how all this applies to OHMSS:

--We see Draco & Co. watch the timer go to zero, wait for the explosion.

-- We actually cut back a few seconds to see Bond still chasing Blofeld.

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 03:24 AM

More generally, films don't have to take place in real time, even within the same scene. That's a technique that goes back to silent films. (I remember taking a film course that said "The Great Train Robbery" established this as a legitimate editing technique).

At the time The Great Train Robbery was released, people were not yet used to intercutting between scenes, so it was just one long-shot... after one long-shot... after one long-shot, and on and on... well, you get the point. :tup:

Here's how all this applies to OHMSS:

--We see Draco & Co. watch the timer go to zero, wait for the explosion.

-- We actually cut back a few seconds to see Bond still chasing Blofeld.

Well, John Glen was still rather green as an editor, so I suppose he may have made a few mistakes on this one. :tup:

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 03:25 AM

One of the many things that always irritates me in TND is why it takes Wai Lin so long to use her earring handcuff key to uncuff herself from Bond.

That's always irritated me as well. She could have easily used it before they hopped on the motorcycle, or even before they slid down the banner on the side of the Carver building.


I've never even thought of that one before, but you make a great point. She certainly had time to do it, before they got on the bike. Maybe she forgot she had it? Or maybe she enjoyed being handcuffed to Bond?

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 03:37 AM

I can't stand Teri Hatcher's voice during the media party in Tomorrow Never Dies; it sounds like she's swallowed a bucketful of helium or some such. :tup:

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 03:51 AM

I can't stand Teri Hatcher's voice during the media party in Tomorrow Never Dies; it sounds like she's swallowed a bucketful of helium or some such. :tup:


This reminds me - I don't like the way Pierce Brosnan bites women on the shoulder when getting it on with them. I often think that we get an insight into how people really are in reality, when we see them "do love scenes".

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 03:54 AM

I can't stand Teri Hatcher's voice during the media party in Tomorrow Never Dies; it sounds like she's swallowed a bucketful of helium or some such. :tup:


But what about her scenes after that media event?

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 05:32 AM

Eric Serra's (lack of) music during the Goldeneye PTS. Surely we needed to hear the Bond theme when Bond managed to get inside the plane and steer it to safety?

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 06:03 AM

Ah, not really. The GoldenEye score is rather serious and subdued. The silence is broken by the opening strains of Turner's theme.

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 05:42 PM

I can't stand Teri Hatcher's voice during the media party in Tomorrow Never Dies; it sounds like she's swallowed a bucketful of helium or some such. :tup:


Awwww leave her alone! I like Teri - She's Sweet :tup:

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 07:35 PM

The irritating coincidences at the start of Thunderball. Bond just "happens" to end up at the spa with the badguys plotting to extort the West, and is coincidentally saved by the bad girl in the movie.

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 12:54 AM

The irritating coincidences at the start of Thunderball. Bond just "happens" to end up at the spa with the badguys plotting to extort the West, and is coincidentally saved by the bad girl in the movie.


Bond is often saved by another baddie - in FRWL, Red Grant is Bond's "guardian angel" and in Casino Royale, Mr White kills Le Chiffre, just in time to save what is left of Bond's manhood.

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Posted 29 February 2008 - 05:05 AM

The irritating coincidences at the start of Thunderball. Bond just "happens" to end up at the spa with the badguys plotting to extort the West, and is coincidentally saved by the bad girl in the movie.


Bond is often saved by another baddie - in FRWL, Red Grant is Bond's "guardian angel" and in Casino Royale, Mr White kills Le Chiffre, just in time to save what is left of Bond's manhood.


That would be an interesting thread. Bad guys who save Bond. The list would also include Jaws in MR, etc.

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Posted 29 February 2008 - 05:11 AM

The irritating coincidences at the start of Thunderball. Bond just "happens" to end up at the spa with the badguys plotting to extort the West, and is coincidentally saved by the bad girl in the movie.


Bond is often saved by another baddie - in FRWL, Red Grant is Bond's "guardian angel" and in Casino Royale, Mr White kills Le Chiffre, just in time to save what is left of Bond's manhood.


That would be an interesting thread. Bad guys who save Bond. The list would also include Jaws in MR, etc.



True. Another one is Renard saves Bond in the Swiss banker's office at the very beginning of TWINE.

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Posted 29 February 2008 - 05:37 AM

The irritating coincidences at the start of Thunderball. Bond just "happens" to end up at the spa with the badguys plotting to extort the West, and is coincidentally saved by the bad girl in the movie.


Bond is often saved by another baddie - in FRWL, Red Grant is Bond's "guardian angel" and in Casino Royale, Mr White kills Le Chiffre, just in time to save what is left of Bond's manhood.


That would be an interesting thread. Bad guys who save Bond. The list would also include Jaws in MR, etc.



True. Another one is Renard saves Bond in the Swiss banker's office at the very beginning of TWINE.


This would be a good one to start on the new thread for villains who were "nice" to Bond.

#296 DamnCoffee

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 03:42 PM

[quote name='DaveBond21' date='29 February 2008 - 05:11'

True. Another one is Renard saves Bond in the Swiss banker's office at the very beginning of TWINE.

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Really? Didn't Bond escape on his own terms? :tup:



Another Irritation: The fact that Mr. Osato says "Kill Him!" to Helga just a little do loud. Bond is barely 7 feet away. :tup:

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 06:41 PM

Eric Serra's (lack of) music during the Goldeneye PTS. Surely we needed to hear the Bond theme when Bond managed to get inside the plane and steer it to safety?

I agree. Since it was the first Bond film in six years, it definately could have used the Bond theme more throughout not only the pre-title sequence, but the entire film in general. When we do hear the Bond them, with the exception of the tank chase, it's usually barely recognizable because it's being played on a timpani. What the film could have used, in my opinion, was a classic rendition of the Bond theme.

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 09:51 PM

That's funny because i've heard criticism of the Brosnan era overplaying the Bond theme. Now it's not enough!

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 10:09 PM

Eric Serra's music throughout the whole of GE is one of my worst Bond irritations.

#300 DamnCoffee

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 10:12 PM

I quite agree Santa.