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[Achille Aubergine]

I've always thought (just my personal opinion) that the crew had so many things to worry about that something as simple as some writing on a van can so easliy get forgotten about.

It's an another explanation of course !

[Goodnight]

It's an another explanation of course !

Thank you sir, although I would never pretend to know anything about film making, I wouldn't even know where to start.


OK I've got another one...

There is one thing that slightly grinds my gears about AVTAK.

It's the the part where Bond is trying out the racehorse he is 'interested' in, the whole sequence is silly beyond belief. Racehorses are never trained like that, It's hard and boring to explain, but trust me I know.

I also wonder why Bond and Zorin are dressed in dressage gear, when they are on racehorses and about to tackle some sort of mock up steeplechase course.

It would be as daft as turning up ready to race in Le Tour de France on a penny farthing.

I can appreciate that the scene looks perfectly plausible to anybody that has limited or no knowledge of training racehorses, but for someone that has worked in the industry and gained an NVQ 2 out of it i.e. me. It is a litlle silly to say the least.


Whoever did the research seriously screwed up!

Edited by Goodnight, 03 December 2010 - 06:42 PM.

[ChristopherZ22]

My Bond film irritations for each film:

01. Dr. No—The patriotic 50s music at the end when Felix Leiter finds Bond and Honey stranded in the boat.
02. From Russia With Love—Bond forgetting to turn off the bath water before finding Tania in bed. Didn't the water overflow?
03. Goldfinger—The "it worked like a dream skipper" scene in which the flying circus girls come out of their planes in their cute and tight outfits in a dated and cheesy scene.
04. Thunderball—The scientist guy disappearing after Largo's boat explodes. We see Bond and Domino get on the raft, but where is the scientist?
05. You Only Live Twice—Bond disguised as a Japanese fisherman. Not convincing.
06. On Her Majesty's Secret Service—The Ruby brain washing scene with Blofeld's dumb dialogue about chickens. The dialogue in the book was better.
07. Diamonds Are Forever—The last shot of Bond and Tiffany looking up at the diamonds in the sky with those stupid grins on their faces and the bad theme music playing.
08. Live and Let Die—Lines during the Harlem scenes like "Honkey," "it's like following a cue ball," "James is for tombstones baby."
09. The Man With the Golden Gun—M barking at Q. "Oh shut up Q."
10. The Spy Who Loved Me—The girl that works at the Sardenia hotel. She has this annoying seductive voice. Obviously she wants to jump Bond, but it seems cheesy and not entirely necessary. We saw two similar girls in Dr. No and Thunderball, but they were more convincing and the idea of a hotel hostess secretly attracted to Bond worked better in those early Connery films.
11. Moonraker—The revelation that dogs and pigeons love gondolas that can move on land.
12. For Your Eyes Only—Bond not banging Bibi. I would have banged her faster than Bond could say, "ice cream."
13. Octopussy—Bond having the magical power to get a wild tiger to "SSSSSSSSSIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTT!"
14. A View To A Kill—Bond in bed with Mayday.
15. The Living Daylights—As this is in my opinion the worst Bond film, I can name a million things. My biggest irritation is the Michael G. Wilson cameo where he is bopping his head. I have never known anyone to bop their heads to classical music or an opera. Isn't that something one would normally do if they were listening to rock music or attending a rock concert? It simply looks bad.
16. Licence To Kill—The wedding scene. Awful.
17. GoldenEye—The beach scene with Bond and Natalia. A little soap opera moment that is out of place. I also hate Moneypenny's mention of sexual harassment.
18. Tomorrow Never Dies—jack Wade's cameo and Carver's impression of a kung fu fighter.
19. The World Is Not Enough—Elektra's annoying line about her family's oil being in her vanes and being thicker than blood, or something stupid like that.
20. Die Another Day—Ok, the Madonna cameo.
21. Casino Royale—Daniel Craig pretending to be Ursula Andress and Halle Berry by coming out of the sea.
22. Quantum of Solace—The subtitles are done in an annoying way in one scene in a taxi car if I can remember correctly. Two different conversations occur simultaneously, making it hard to decide which set of subtitles to read first. Also, Fields covered in oil is annoying as it is a blatant and unnecessary rip-off/homage to the scene from Goldfinger where Jill is covered in gold paint.

[Achille Aubergine]

My Bond film irritations for each film:

01. Dr. No—The patriotic 50s music at the end when Felix Leiter finds Bond and Honey stranded in the boat.
02. From Russia With Love—Bond forgetting to turn off the bath water before finding Tania in bed. Didn't the water overflow?
03. Goldfinger—The "it worked like a dream skipper" scene in which the flying circus girls come out of their planes in their cute and tight outfits in a dated and cheesy scene.
04. Thunderball—The scientist guy disappearing after Largo's boat explodes. We see Bond and Domino get on the raft, but where is the scientist?
05. You Only Live Twice—Bond disguised as a Japanese fisherman. Not convincing.
06. On Her Majesty's Secret Service—The Ruby brain washing scene with Blofeld's dumb dialogue about chickens. The dialogue in the book was better.
07. Diamonds Are Forever—The last shot of Bond and Tiffany looking up at the diamonds in the sky with those stupid grins on their faces and the bad theme music playing.
08. Live and Let Die—Lines during the Harlem scenes like "Honkey," "it's like following a cue ball," "James is for tombstones baby."
09. The Man With the Golden Gun—M barking at Q. "Oh shut up Q."
10. The Spy Who Loved Me—The girl that works at the Sardenia hotel. She has this annoying seductive voice. Obviously she wants to jump Bond, but it seems cheesy and not entirely necessary. We saw two similar girls in Dr. No and Thunderball, but they were more convincing and the idea of a hotel hostess secretly attracted to Bond worked better in those early Connery films.
11. Moonraker—The revelation that dogs and pigeons love gondolas that can move on land.
12. For Your Eyes Only—Bond not banging Bibi. I would have banged her faster than Bond could say, "ice cream."
13. Octopussy—Bond having the magical power to get a wild tiger to "SSSSSSSSSIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTT!"
14. A View To A Kill—Bond in bed with Mayday.
15. The Living Daylights—As this is in my opinion the worst Bond film, I can name a million things. My biggest irritation is the Michael G. Wilson cameo where he is bopping his head. I have never known anyone to bop their heads to classical music or an opera. Isn't that something one would normally do if they were listening to rock music or attending a rock concert? It simply looks bad.
16. Licence To Kill—The wedding scene. Awful.
17. GoldenEye—The beach scene with Bond and Natalia. A little soap opera moment that is out of place. I also hate Moneypenny's mention of sexual harassment.
18. Tomorrow Never Dies—jack Wade's cameo and Carver's impression of a kung fu fighter.
19. The World Is Not Enough—Elektra's annoying line about her family's oil being in her vanes and being thicker than blood, or something stupid like that.
20. Die Another Day—Ok, the Madonna cameo.
21. Casino Royale—Daniel Craig pretending to be Ursula Andress and Halle Berry by coming out of the sea.
22. Quantum of Solace—The subtitles are done in an annoying way in one scene in a taxi car if I can remember correctly. Two different conversations occur simultaneously, making it hard to decide which set of subtitles to read first. Also, Fields covered in oil is annoying as it is a blatant and unnecessary rip-off/homage to the scene from Goldfinger where Jill is covered in gold paint.

Be carreful with all these irritations ! You could have a gastric ulcer...

[Colossus]

Whoa ya gotta take it easy!

[Goodnight]

Does anybody else think that the edit of the car chase in QOS is too fast and too confusing?

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

No gunbarrel at the beginning of QOS.
Title cards in QOS.

Let me think of more...

Does anybody else think that the edit of the car chase in QOS is too fast and too confusing?

...and two short too. I'd like to see the Alfas intercepting Bond somewhere, or Bond putting White in the boot.

[Chief of SIS]

I hate the way the helicopter explodes in FRWL. Oh look it's falling. Oh wait, it landed perfectly and stopped moving and is on fire. It's hard to swallow.

[Guy Haines]

Does anybody else think that the edit of the car chase in QOS is too fast and too confusing?

Yes, but not quite as fast and confusing as the Bond/Mitchell chase shortly after the theme tune. In both cases I think the edit should have allowed the audience the occasional "breather" to briefly take stock of what is going on and where.

[Messervy]

Does anybody else think that the edit of the car chase in QOS is too fast and too confusing?

oooh! Not this issue again!
(just kidding )
I love the car chase in QoS; one of the best car chases I've seen in a movie (yes, even better than Bullit).

Now that I think of it, one thing most annoying is in YOLT: How is it Bond can, via the TV screen in his car, see the helicopter releasing in the sea the car it magnetized? That would mean there's another helicopter capturing the whole scene and transmitting it to the TV receiver. Quite preposterous. I know it's only a tiny little insignificant detail, but every time I watch YOLT this part of the scene just needles me.

[Liparus]

Does anybody else think that the edit of the car chase in QOS is too fast and too confusing?

Yes, but not quite as fast and confusing as the Bond/Mitchell chase shortly after the theme tune. In both cases I think the edit should have allowed the audience the occasional "breather" to briefly take stock of what is going on and where.

The Bond/Mitchell chase is, IMO, far better than the car chase. I'm agree with Goodnight. But my principal irritation goes to the "Tosca fight scene". Totally psychedelic. The most ugliest scene in 21 films.

[Goodnight]

Yes, but not quite as fast and confusing as the Bond/Mitchell chase shortly after the theme tune. In both cases I think the edit should have allowed the audience the occasional "breather" to briefly take stock of what is going on and where.

I agree the foot chase in QOS is also quite confusing.

I love the car chase in QoS; one of the best car chases I've seen in a movie (yes, even better than Bullit).

I too love the car chase but like I said I think it is a bit confusing because of the edit. I don't know if it is deliberate or not but when the Alfa crashes head on into the lorry, it looks like (for a split second) that the Aston actually hit it instead.

Is this deliberate or not? Or is it just me?

Edited by Goodnight, 15 December 2010 - 12:38 PM.

[Liparus]

The Aston had hit the Alfa indeed but it wasn't scheduled in that scene. The stuntmen have crashed a lot of DBS in this scene in particular (4 I believe)

[Messervy]

I love the car chase in QoS; one of the best car chases I've seen in a movie (yes, even better than Bullit).

I too love the car chase but like I said I think it is a bit confusing because of the edit. I don't know if it is deliberate or not but when the Alfa crashes head on into the lorry, it looks like (for a split second) that the Aston actually hit it instead.

Is this deliberate or not? Or is it just me?

This I didn't see, so I couldn't say.
To me, a very fast editing works fine, precisely because it gives a car chase a real edge. It's fast and loaded with tension. What I don't like in other car chases is the way they are paced (see the beginning of GE, for instance): in order to make it clear for the audience, they tend to be too clear and too explicit. I think a certain degree of confusion is very much welcome. After all, this is a chase, and you're not supposed to catch everything.

[Achille Aubergine]

I'm agree with Messervy. We're not supposed to see everything of the action in a car chase or in a run chase.
But we can't argue about irritations. It's a question of feeling.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

Another irritating thing, from Die Another Day this time:

The way Pierce challenges Graves in the fencing scene, particulary before the "first blood" challenge. I can tolerate Graves' "'COURSE I WANNA BLOODY CONTINUE!!!!!!" because, OK, he's mad, but the way Bond nods his head in anger and says "Yeah" it's difficult to follow. He's acting like a street fighter, ad he should have been more upper-crusted IMO. As Moore did in Octopussy when he shows Kamal the Fabergé Egg or Connery in Thunderball when he says Largo has a "SPECTRE in his shoulder". Even Pierce acted better in Tomorrow Never Dies when he said he was "adrift" or that Carver's "globally positioned satellites" could topple the course of "governments or even a ship". That kind of "Hey, I'm on to you" subliminal warning was great.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Even Pierce acted better in Tomorrow Never Dies when he said he was "adrift" or that Carver's "globally positioned satellites" could topple the course of "governments or even a ship". That kind of "Hey, I'm on to you" subliminal warning was great.

See, I hated those two bits in TND; they were overly obvious in their motives, whereas Connery's mention of a "SPECTRE" wouldn't make everyone else at the gambling table automatically think of an evil organization -- just a private joust between Largo and Bond.

[Liparus]

In Moonraker, the camera with Bond's number on it ! The lens is the second "O"...
Very smart for a spy !

[Messervy]

In Moonraker, the camera with Bond's number on it ! The lens is the second "O"...
Very smart for a spy !

Yes, that always seemed to me quite out of place. The production team must have foreseen christmas merchandising!

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

The way Medrano says the words "wife-fffffffffffffffff" and "danccccccccccer".

[Goodnight]

Does anybody else think the idea of Scaramanga having a waxwork of Bond is a bit silly? I mean how is it supposed to be plausible?

From what I have read, the artists that make the statues for the various Madame Tussauds exhibitions work hundreds of hours to get the look perfect, even the hair follicles have to be placed individually. They have to take lots of photographs and take hundreds of measurments of the individual they wish to immortilise in wax.


How did Scaramanga get the waxwork made? Did he hire someone to take lots of measurements and photographs of Bond and then make a model of him?

Even for a rich man, wouldn't that be an awful waste of money?


It seems to me that it was put in just so Bond could stand in place of the model to kill Scaramanga. Don't get me wrong it looks great on screen, but when you think about it, it isn't that plausible is it?

Get my drift?

[mttvolcano]

For the most part, not many very little things bugged me in the Bond movies. I didn't like tanya roberts in a view to a kill, her acting is worthless.
Also Jaws falling in love was the stupidest thing ever! no one can change my opinion on that one at least.
The thing that bugs me the most was the direction of QoS. I am beginning to like the film as a whole more, but I hated when Bond is being chased through the opera house and they silence everything and put in depressing music with and use slow mo. overlayed with Tocasa play, it just bugs me for some reason.

[Messervy]

I hated when Bond is being chased through the opera house and they silence everything and put in depressing music with and use slow mo. overlayed with Tocasa play, it just bugs me for some reason.

Funny; it's precisely one of the moments in the direction of the movie that I really love. Very original, never seen before in a Bond movie, and, to me, it really adds to the drama. Brilliant work. One of the reasons why I highly enjoy QoS.

[MrKidd]

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Does anybody else think the idea of Scaramanga having a waxwork of Bond is a bit silly? I mean how is it supposed to be plausible?

From what I have read, the artists that make the statues for the various Madame Tussauds exhibitions work hundreds of hours to get the look perfect, even the hair follicles have to be placed individually. They have to take lots of photographs and take hundreds of measurments of the individual they wish to immortilise in wax.


How did Scaramanga get the waxwork made? Did he hire someone to take lots of measurements and photographs of Bond and then make a model of him?

Even for a rich man, wouldn't that be an awful waste of money?


It seems to me that it was put in just so Bond could stand in place of the model to kill Scaramanga. Don't get me wrong it looks great on screen, but when you think about it, it isn't that plausible is it?

Get my drift?
On the whole waxworks thing, I seem to remember that at the beginning of the film the waxworks aren't waxworks at all. They're people, keeping very very still. But you can see them breathing which kind of gives the game away. Do I remember correctly?
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Edited by MrKidd, 19 December 2010 - 04:43 PM.

[Goodnight]

On the whole waxworks thing, I seem to remember that at the beginning of the film the waxworks aren't waxworks at all. They're people, keeping very very still. But you can see them breathing which kind of gives the game away. Do I remember correctly?

I know they are just people standing still, but within the film they are waxworks...that is my point!

Edited by Goodnight, 20 December 2010 - 01:36 PM.

[Mr. Blofeld]

The way Medrano says the words "wife-fffffffffffffffff" and "danccccccccccer".

Really? That's not an irritation; that's an assholish nitpick.

[Safari Suit]

These are all ridiculous nitpicks! That's the whole point of the thread, I guess. To single out one person (with, surprise surprise, a QOS nitpick) like that seems a bit, ahem, "unpleasant" itself

[MrKidd]

On the whole waxworks thing, I seem to remember that at the beginning of the film the waxworks aren't waxworks at all. They're people, keeping very very still. But you can see them breathing which kind of gives the game away. Do I remember correctly?

I know they are just people standing still, but within the film
they are waxworks...that is my point!

Oops sorry! So I agree with you then - it's ridiculous!

[mttvolcano]

I hated when Bond is being chased through the opera house and they silence everything and put in depressing music with and use slow mo. overlayed with Tocasa play, it just bugs me for some reason.

Funny; it's precisely one of the moments in the direction of the movie that I really love. Very original, never seen before in a Bond movie, and, to me, it really adds to the drama. Brilliant work. One of the reasons why I highly enjoy QoS.

haha, I kind of go back and forth...I should say the silence of the gunfight irritates me, the overlaying of the Tocasa opera was rather interesting and obviously paralleled the action sequence. But again the silence, idk didn't like it in the action sequence...to me doesn't seem 'bondian'.

[Goodnight]

The way Medrano says the words "wife-fffffffffffffffff" and "danccccccccccer".

Really? That's not an irritation; that's an assholish nitpick.

If he finds it to be an irritation, that's fine.

There are plenty of little things people have pointed out here, look at some of my posts.