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[tdalton]

Too mechanical looking. I don't like it.

Agreed, and yet another aspect of the film that has left me disappointed. Batman Begins was a good film (not great, but good), but I haven't seen anything yet from the production of this film to make me think that TDK is going to be as good or better than BB.

[Tarl_Cabot]

I like it. It looks functional. He can repell gun fire and maintain mobility for combat, escapes,chasing,climbing...etc.


I still think Iron Man will own this.



The Joker looks good too. He really looks like one scary sickass bastard.

OK, Iron Man better be at least as good and I'll be a happy fanboy.

[Harmsway]

I like it. It looks functional. He can repell gun fire and maintain mobility for combat, escapes,chasing,climbing...etc.

Yeah. It's less "goofy man with Bat ears" and more "urban warrior." And I dig that. I'd be intimidated if I met that in an alley. It also gets major points for being the most flexible Batman costume to date.

The Joker looks good too. He really looks like one scary sickass bastard.

No kidding.

OK, Iron Man better be at least as good and I'll be a happy fanboy.

We'll see. I hope it's good, but aside from a few pictures I've seen, there's nothing to indicate that IRON MAN is going to be the end-all, be-all of superhero flicks.

And I doubt IRON MAN will have a story half as original and epic as the one THE DARK KNIGHT has set up.

Agreed, and yet another aspect of the film that has left me disappointed.

What other aspects have left you disappointed?

I don't see a single thing to be disappointed about THE DARK KNIGHT. The storyline is brilliant... far more original and creative than the relatively paint-by-numbers story of BATMAN BEGINS. The cast is even stronger than it was last time. There are more interesting characters (and it features the Joker - the greatest comic book villain of all time, which gives it serious bonus points).

[tdalton]

Agreed, and yet another aspect of the film that has left me disappointed.

What other aspects have left you disappointed?

I don't see a single thing to be disappointed about THE DARK KNIGHT. The storyline is brilliant... far more original and creative than the relatively paint-by-numbers story of BATMAN BEGINS. The cast is even stronger than it was last time. There are more interesting characters (and it features the Joker - the greatest comic book villain of all time, which gives it serious bonus points).

Well, the most recent thing is the new batsuit. I agree with the others here who have said that it's not very good. Second of all, I'm not the least bit thrilled with the cast for this movie. I really think that Heath Ledger is miscast (the rumors of Sean Penn being up for the role of The Joker had me excited, and that was something that I really wanted to see).

[Harmsway]

Second of all, I'm not the least bit thrilled with the cast for this movie.

What? So you didn't like the cast for BEGINS? And you don't care for Aaron Eckhart and Maggie Gyllenhaal?

I really think that Heath Ledger is miscast (the rumors of Sean Penn being up for the role of The Joker had me excited, and that was something that I really wanted to see, but I'm not a fan of Heath Ledger's and have yet to see him in a film that I have enjoyed).

Fair enough, I suppose. Sean Penn would have been alright, but he was far too old for the part. I hope you end up liking Ledger's Joker. At any rate, his visual appearance is terrific.

Personally, I think Heath's casting is a brilliant move. He's a solid actor in his own right (even though I haven't really liked any of his films, he's consistently given good performances) and everything he's said in interviews indicates he knows this character inside and out. While his casting raised eyebrows, I don't see how he's going to be incapable of successfully driving home any aspect of the Joker's persona.

I think the fact that he's such a good-looking heartthrob is going to really drive the role home. It's like Tom Cruise in COLLATERAL (the only Cruise performance I ever liked). The things that make him the charming heartthrob suddenly become chilling once he's playing a baddie. And Heath has that... he's got that winner's smile, and once it becomes clear that there's insanity and bloodlust behind it, I think it's going to work wonders.

[tdalton]

Second of all, I'm not the least bit thrilled with the cast for this movie.

What? So you didn't like the cast for BEGINS? And you don't care for Aaron Eckhart and Maggie Gyllenhaal?

I really think that Heath Ledger is miscast (the rumors of Sean Penn being up for the role of The Joker had me excited, and that was something that I really wanted to see, but I'm not a fan of Heath Ledger's and have yet to see him in a film that I have enjoyed).

Fair enough, I suppose. Sean Penn would have been alright, but he was far too old for the part. I hope you end up liking Ledger's Joker. At any rate, his visual appearance is terrific.

Personally, I think Heath's casting is a brilliant move. He's a solid actor in his own right (even though I haven't really liked any of his films, he's consistently given good performances) and everything he's said in interviews indicates he knows this character inside and out. While his casting raised eyebrows, I don't see how he's going to be incapable of successfully driving home any aspect of the Joker's persona.

I think the fact that he's such a good-looking heartthrob is going to really drive the role home. It's like Tom Cruise in COLLATERAL (the only Cruise performance I ever liked). The things that make him the charming heartthrob suddenly become chilling once he's playing a baddie. And Heath has that... he's got that winner's smile, and once it becomes clear that there's insanity and bloodlust behind it, I think it's going to work wonders.

Gylenhaal is an improvement from BB. She's one of the best actresses out there today, and I don't think that it can be argued that she's a vast improvement over Katie Holmes. But, I wish that they had just cast her for another character instead of the role that Katie Holmes vacated. I don't like it when the same character is recast from one film to the next.

For me, the jury is still out on Eckhart as Harvey Dent. He'll probably be good, but I think that Nolan created a bit of a problem for himself with the cast of the first film by having so many Hollywood heavyweights in the lead roles. Eckhart's talented, but I just can't see him and Ledger holding their own with the likes of Bale, Caine, Freeman, Oldman, and Gylenhaal. I think that casting Sean Penn (who I think would have been brilliant in the role) would have been the right move, even if he's a bit old for the part, with all the makeup I'm not sure that it would have mattered all that much. I'm also not sold on the first picture of The Joker. It looks less like the Joker and more like Heath Ledger wearing lipstick.

[Tarl_Cabot]

Heath Ledger miss cast?? The first time I saw The Patriot, I thought his smile was distractingly identical to the frickin Joker! This is BULLSEYE casting of the highest order! Absolutely rock solid...he makes Jack like like a bloated and tired middle aged unthreatening ham.

Sean Penn is a joyless, humorless overacting to the hilt douche bag. I would skip TDK if he was in it.

I like it. It looks functional. He can repell gun fire and maintain mobility for combat, escapes,chasing,climbing...etc.

Yeah. It's less "goofy man with Bat ears" and more "urban warrior." And I dig that. I'd be intimidated if I met that in an alley. It also gets major points for being the most flexible Batman costume to date.

The Joker looks good too. He really looks like one scary sickass bastard.

No kidding.

OK, Iron Man better be at least as good and I'll be a happy fanboy.

We'll see. I hope it's good, but aside from a few pictures I've seen, there's nothing to indicate that IRON MAN is going to be the end-all, be-all of superhero flicks.

And I doubt IRON MAN will have a story half as original and epic as the one THE DARK KNIGHT has set up.

Agreed, and yet another aspect of the film that has left me disappointed.

What other aspects have left you disappointed?

I don't see a single thing to be disappointed about THE DARK KNIGHT. The storyline is brilliant... far more original and creative than the relatively paint-by-numbers story of BATMAN BEGINS. The cast is even stronger than it was last time. There are more interesting characters (and it features the Joker - the greatest comic book villain of all time, which gives it serious bonus points).

Iron Man will have a bald Jeff Bridges as his main nemesis. I think seeing him as a baddie will be interesting. I liked him as the O.J. in Jagged Edge...I dunno why he didn't do more dark material. I think he has the chops for it...Anyway, I hope he's got a well scripted role to dig into.

[Harmsway]

I don't like it when the same character is recast from one film to the next.

Generally, I agree. But I would have hated it if Rachel Dawes was just thrown out the window as a character. What's special about this Batman franchise is the continuity between films, and it's good to see that the established relationship from BATMAN BEGINS will carry through into the next film. I'd much rather have the Dawes character stay than another "girl of the month" (which was one of the primary things wrong with the previous Bat franchise).

Eckhart's talented, but I just can't see him and Ledger holding their own with the likes of Bale, Caine, Freeman, Oldman, and Gylenhaal.

Really? I can. Easily. Ledger and Eckhart are certainly in Bale and Gyllenhaal's league (if not in Caine, Freeman, and Oldman's).

I think that casting Sean Penn (who I think would have been brilliant in the role) would have been the right move, even if he's a bit old for the part, with all the makeup I'm not sure that it would have mattered all that much.

Sure it would have. The Joker needs to be Batman's age. There can't be the old guy/young guy dynamic. And personally, I have yet to see anything from Sean Penn that convinces me he could really make the Joker a charismatic villain. He's a good enough actor, but has no charisma to speak of.

I'm also not sold on the first picture of The Joker. It looks less like the Joker and more like Heath Ledger wearing lipstick.

Did you expect it to not look like Heath Ledger? Honestly, you seem so downbeat about every film these days, tdalton (aside from HALLOWEEN, unbelievably). It's been a while since I heard you say anything positive about a recent film.

[tdalton]

I'm also not sold on the first picture of The Joker. It looks less like the Joker and more like Heath Ledger wearing lipstick.

Did you expect it to not look like Heath Ledger? Honestly, you seem so downbeat about every film these days, tdalton. What would make you excited about a movie?

Yes, I did expect it to look a bit like Heath Ledger. Of course, it's unavoidable for it to not look like him (obviously). But, it just looks like they threw some liptstick on him and took a picture. I'm willing to admit that maybe I've missed the point of the Joker (I'm not an avid Batman fan. I like some of the movies, but I'm certainly not even going to pretend that I'm the least bit knowledgable about the origins of the characters).

As far as recent movies, I'm downbeat about them because it has been a long time since I've seen a truly great movie. The last one that I saw in theaters that I truly enjoyed was Rocky Balboa, virtually everything else that I've seen has been disappointing. I love Daniel Craig as Bond (for me, he's the best), but I was disappointed at a good portion of CR, and a host of other movies that have come in the past couple of years have just fallen into the Hollywood trend of sequel/remake with nothing truly original having been put out that interested me in the least.

[Harmsway]

But, it just looks like they threw some liptstick on him and took a picture.

To be fair, the green hair and stuff isn't visible, and they didn't have Heath smile (intentionally... so that this picture would look even more different from what came before).

a host of other movies that have come in the past couple of years have just fallen into the Hollywood trend of sequel/remake with nothing truly original having been put out that interested me in the least.

People who say that there's nothing original coming out just aren't seeing the right films, IMO. Largely because all the really cool films are independent ventures, and by nature, they're just not seen as much. But there's been plenty of neat stuff released, like BRICK - a dark, gritty film noir set in a high school. Highly inventive.

[Tarl_Cabot]

I can relate TD....I have no interest in anything upcoming till August...I passed on Pirates 3, Ocean umpteen and will prolly shine the Transformers...but.. The Bourne Ultimatum will complete a perfect trilogy.

[Righty007]

Eckhart's talented, but I just can't see him and Ledger holding their own with the likes of Bale, Caine, Freeman, Oldman, and Gylenhaal.

Really? I can. Easily. Ledger and Eckhart are certainly in Bale and Gyllenhaal's league (if not in Caine, Freeman, and Oldman's).

I disagree. Caine, Freeman, and Oldman are in a different league than Bale, Gyllenhaal, Ledger, and Eckhart.

[Harmsway]

Eckhart's talented, but I just can't see him and Ledger holding their own with the likes of Bale, Caine, Freeman, Oldman, and Gylenhaal.

Really? I can. Easily. Ledger and Eckhart are certainly in Bale and Gyllenhaal's league (if not in Caine, Freeman, and Oldman's).

I disagree. Caine, Freeman, and Oldman are in a different league than Bale, Gyllenhaal, Ledger, and Eckhart.

Isn't that what my post indicated?

[Qwerty]

I don't have too much interest in the suit itself in these films, but judging by the scanned article, I think it looks OK. No better or worse really than what we saw in Batman Begins.

[Righty007]

Eckhart's talented, but I just can't see him and Ledger holding their own with the likes of Bale, Caine, Freeman, Oldman, and Gylenhaal.

Really? I can. Easily. Ledger and Eckhart are certainly in Bale and Gyllenhaal's league (if not in Caine, Freeman, and Oldman's).

I disagree. Caine, Freeman, and Oldman are in a different league than Bale, Gyllenhaal, Ledger, and Eckhart.

Isn't that what my post indicated?

I'm sorry, I didn't read your post correctly the first time.

[stamper]

Anyone wants to see a rough of the teaser ? It's stolen, without sound, but it's the real deal

Go there

http://www.dailymoti...k-knight-teaser

PS actually it"s a well made fake, interesting nonetheless !

[Harmsway]

New pics of the batcycle for THE DARK KNIGHT:

[Righty007]

New pics of the batcycle for THE DARK KNIGHT:

Reminds me of the tumbler which I hate.

[Qwerty]

I don't mind the tumbler, but this batcycle does look a bit odd.

[Righty007]

I wish the Bale/Nolan Batman vehicles were traditional looking but The Dark Knight is still going to be awesome!

[Tarl_Cabot]

It doesn't look very agile or sporty. Someone has wheel envy issues.

[Harmsway]

Reminds me of the tumbler which I hate.

You hate the tumbler? I thought that was the best Batman vehicle. Ever.

Regardless, doesn't it at least work as a prototype Batmobile? It's not the finished vehicle. Neither is that Batcycle. These films are based around the idea of Batman continually upgrading himself... hence we start with really slapdash versions of the suit, cave, vehicles, and things gradually get more polished and advanced from there.

I don't mind the tumbler, but this batcycle does look a bit odd.

Yeah. Depending on which rumored origin you believe about the batcycle, the slapdash look of it does make sense as far as the story goes. And to be fair... these pictures suck. I saw it featured on the Today Show. The thing is much bigger than these pictures would indicate.

Someone has wheel envy issues.

Those are the wheels of the tumbler, if that gives you any hint as to its origin.

And believe it or not, but the engine is actually housed in the wheels.

[sharpshooter]

The tumbler is the best vehicle he has had. It is designed for one purpose, to fight crime. The Nolan films are about a real world scenario, Batman would not have a Batmobile just because it looks good. It can smash through objects, repel gunfire, jump rooftops and still have a good look, in a rather cruel way.

The batpod is very cool. The innovation of no handle bars is ingenious, and the ablity to lower itself for sliding under semis! This beast would be easier stored in this penthouse they talk of, but does this mean the tumbler is indeed destroyed?

[Harmsway]

This beast would be easier stored in this penthouse they talk of, but does this mean the tumbler is indeed destroyed?

Spoiler

The tumbler is destroyed during the course of the film. Take that to the bank.

[The Dove]

Batman's suit looks awesome, though it's not very different than the one he wore in Batman Begins (at least from what I can tell..) Its certainly a lot better than those lame super-sonar ones that Batman, Robin and Batgirl wore in Batman Forever and Batman and Robin.. I actually prefer the plain batsuit with the yellow bat emblem.

As for this new Bat bike...looks cool, though those puffy tumble wheels look rediculous on it!! Take those away, and you have a pretty cool ride!!

[Harmsway]

As for this new Bat bike...looks cool, though those puffy tumble wheels look rediculous on it!! Take those away, and you have a pretty cool ride!!

Take the wheels away and there's no engine! The engine is housed inside the wheels.

[The Dove]

OH!!I didn't realize that, Harmsway!! Cool... Yeah I suppose without the engine Batman won't be going anywhere..lol!!

[Qwerty]

Its certainly a lot better than those lame super-sonar ones that Batman, Robin and Batgirl wore in Batman Forever and Batman and Robin..

By far.

[freemo]

I still think the suit is a little "too much". I love the cowl that lets him move his head, and it does look alot more mobile than the slightly chunky Begins suit, so it does have some things going for it. But the whole robotic look, it's a little needlessly complicated for mine, like the customer designer just couldn't help themselves. I'd rather something a little sleeker.

Then again, I hated the tumbler when I saw pictures of it, but loved it when I saw it in action in the film. Maybe I just need to see the suit in action too.

[Righty007]

But the whole robotic look, it's a little needlessly complicated for mine, like the customer designer couldn't help themselves.

Lindy Hemming is the costume designer for The Dark Knight.