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[Mr. Blofeld]

I see they have one of the Joker mauling his face with a knife; nice touch.

[Harmsway]

I see they have one of the Joker mauling his face with a knife; nice touch.

He's actually holding up some cards. No face-cutting in any of this statues.

[sharpshooter]

The Batman statues there didn't really impress me greatly.

[6Joker9]

I thought I might bump this, considering that the viral marketing has picked up again with the marketing's newspapers.

http://www.theGothamtimes.com/

And the parody of it by, well, The Joker:

http://www.thehahahatimes.com/

Pretty funny stuff.

The Dark Knight crew seems to be taking the approach that this could actually be regarded more as a celebration of Heath Ledger than anything else (Bale made such comments not too long ago). I think its a good way to approach the process till the film comes out in July.

[sharpshooter]

I simply can't wait for this film to be released. Everybody has waited so long already, and there is still a while to go.

[HildebrandRarity]

Same.

I have a question:

Is it usual to have a post-production this long? Heath passed away in the latter part of January...and the release dates are the latter part of July. That's at least six months after Heath's passing. The movie was "in the can" before that tragic occurence...but how long before that dark day was the movie in the can?

Bond films, as a reference, usually require about four-and-a-half months (on average) of post-production.

Why this type of length on this movie? Was Begins similar?

[Mr. Blofeld]

It's meant to be a summer movie, mon ami.

[Righty007]

It's meant to be a summer movie, mon ami.

HildebrandRarity knows it's a summer movie; that wasn't even his question, mon ami.

[Mr. Blofeld]

It's meant to be a summer movie, mon ami.

HildebrandRarity knows it's a summer movie; that wasn't even his question, mon ami.

Well, a lot of times, I mean, they hold back movies until the designated time for which they flourish; if you don't, you wind up with what Evening got for being released too long before Oscar season.

[HildebrandRarity]

It's meant to be a summer movie, mon ami.

HildebrandRarity knows it's a summer movie; that wasn't even his question, mon ami.

LOL!

Um...thanks, Righty. Time is money in the world of business and they would have set the release date well in advance of filming...delays or "holding back" is money lost...and studios have to answer to shareholders, stock market, etc. So I don't buy that it's a "summer movie".

I'm interested in knowing if it's normal to have such a lengthy post-production on movies like CGI super-hero fests...we're looking at seven months. Did Batman Begins have a seven month post production? Perhaps Harmsway can shed some light (with no disrespect to an ami like Mr. Blofeld. )

[Harmsway]

Did Batman Begins have a seven month post production? Perhaps Harmsway can shed some light (with no disrespect to an ami like Mr. Blofeld. )

This is just off the top of my head, but I believe that the timetable for BEGINS' production was very, very similar.

[HildebrandRarity]

Why, may I ask, is the post-production almost double that of the average movie from the James Bond series...a series which, in fact, is already known to have a longer than normal pre-to-post-production schedule?

[Righty007]

Why, may I ask, is the post-production almost double that of the average movie from the James Bond series...a series which, in fact, is already known to have a longer than normal pre-to-post-production schedule?

Special effects, perhaps? I'd imagine Batman films contain more special effects than Bond films.

[AngryPolarBear]

I don't think Batman Begins have more special effects than Casino Royale.

[HildebrandRarity]

The CGI and special effects on Casino Royale were incredible. So incredible that they blended seamlessly and no one was the wiser. Compare it to the likes of Spider-man and you'll see (or, in the case of CR, not see) what I mean.

I suspect one of the reason behind the high price tag for Q0S is that they will spend a good deal of money on making sure that the movie will look as "real" as possible.

[Harmsway]

Why, may I ask, is the post-production almost double that of the average movie from the James Bond series...a series which, in fact, is already known to have a longer than normal pre-to-post-production schedule?

Well, I think that it has to do with the time of year they want to be shooting. They want to catch Chicago and such in the summer, when it's easiest to shoot without dealing with the rather testy weather. The last thing they want to do is shoot during the winter.

We already know that THE DARK KNIGHT is pretty much in the can and has screened for WB execs.

The CGI and special effects on Casino Royale were incredible. So incredible that they blended seamlessly and no one was the wiser. Compare it to the likes of Spider-man and you'll see (or, in the case of CR, not see) what I mean.

The SFX demands of CASINO ROYALE and SPIDER-MAN are so different, though, that they're not even worth comparing. CASINO ROYALE's effects work was fantastic, but it's not like there was ever a need for a man flying through the air and fighting with another person.

Not that SPIDER-MAN gets off the hook, mind you. I think all three of those films have rather dodgy effects work.

[tdalton]

The SFX demands of CASINO ROYALE and SPIDER-MAN are so different, though, that they're not even worth comparing. CASINO ROYALE's effects work was fantastic, but it's not like there was ever a need for a man flying through the air and fighting with another person.

Not that SPIDER-MAN gets off the hook, mind you. I think all three of those films have rather dodgy effects work.

Agreed. I was always surprised at how poor the special effects were in the SPIDER-MAN films. One example would be to contrast two similar scenes in CASINO ROYALE and SPIDER-MAN 3. In CASINO ROYALE, the sinking house in Venice, despite not being real, does manage to look fairly realistic, and I never think when I'm watching it that it's fake because those responsible for making the scene do a good enough job with it to not make me notice that it's fake. Take the high-rise scene in SPIDER-MAN 3 featuring Bryce Dallas Howard's character, and absolutely everything about that scene looks fake, and it's quite noticeable and distracting.

[HildebrandRarity]

Well, look at the Miami Airport sequence which closed out act one of Casino Royale...they accomplished so much using only two airplanes...two!

CR deserved an Oscar monination, if not the Oscar itself, for visual effects for having over 250 digital effects and virtually none of them being materially noticable.

Well, I think that it has to do with the time of year they want to be shooting. They want to catch Chicago and such in the summer...

We already know that THE DARK KNIGHT is pretty much in the can and has screened for WB execs.

Wow! That's remarkable. So they've already screened it WITH the full score and all the digital touch ups?

[6Joker9]

Did Batman Begins have a seven month post production? Perhaps Harmsway can shed some light (with no disrespect to an ami like Mr. Blofeld. )

This is just off the top of my head, but I believe that the timetable for BEGINS' production was very, very similar.

Kinda. I recall BEGINS ending much sooner. Let's say, around late august or early september, where instead with TDK, Nolan concluded around the middle of october.

And while I'm not sure how big it was, I do remember a quote from Nolan where he mentioned that the post-production of BEGINS went through a state of "limbo" at one point.

[Professor Dent]

The SFX demands of CASINO ROYALE and SPIDER-MAN are so different, though, that they're not even worth comparing. CASINO ROYALE's effects work was fantastic, but it's not like there was ever a need for a man flying through the air and fighting with another person.

Not that SPIDER-MAN gets off the hook, mind you. I think all three of those films have rather dodgy effects work.

Agreed. I was always surprised at how poor the special effects were in the SPIDER-MAN films. One example would be to contrast two similar scenes in CASINO ROYALE and SPIDER-MAN 3. In CASINO ROYALE, the sinking house in Venice, despite not being real, does manage to look fairly realistic, and I never think when I'm watching it that it's fake because those responsible for making the scene do a good enough job with it to not make me notice that it's fake. Take the high-rise scene in SPIDER-MAN 3 featuring Bryce Dallas Howard's character, and absolutely everything about that scene looks fake, and it's quite noticeable and distracting.

The Venice house was real in that it was a massive miniature in 1/3 scale. It was 26 feet tall & 20 feet across. This sells the reality of the scene. I'm still impressed when I watch it now even though I know how it was done. In Spider-man, they did almost everything in CGI which shows in the finished product. Something we probably should expect in a comic book character movie but it doesn't make it any less distracting when you watch it.

[Harmsway]

Here are some fantastic new leaked photos (SPOILERS, so view at your own discretion):

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[Righty007]

Here are some fantastic new leaked photos (SPOILERS, so view at your own discretion):

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WOAH!

It's going to be so weird seeing Heath as the Joker in July...

[HildebrandRarity]

Surreal. My heart doth ache.

[sharpshooter]

Rumours are gathering pace online that developer Pandemic are at work on a new officially-licensed Batman title. The new Batman game will apparently be based on The Dark Knight. Cool news, I've been waiting a long time for such an announcement.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Spoiler

"Doctor's order's, Batboy!"

[Qwerty]

Here are some fantastic new leaked photos (SPOILERS, so view at your own discretion):

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http://img.photobuck...B6F976C6E1D.jpg

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WOAH!

You can say that again.

[sharpshooter]

This is from BoF, it may be the first TDK review.

"My secret agent between the Armani suits saw a super private session for THE DARK KNIGHT and came out drooling. It will be a great success, he guarantees, the gadgets (especially the [Bat-Pod], responsible for a acclaimed action sequence ) are crazy and Heath Leger might receive a deserved indication for his Joker, ‘a mixture of a fool/clown, schizophrenic, sadistic, and crazy. The guy delivered, got himself into the role and it's unrecognizable. There will be no other Joker after him.’"

"In one scene he repeats to Christian Bale's Batman a line from BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN (The guy probably is probably confused here) ‘you complete me’ -- but in context of 'stalker, crazy/scary.'"

"Another scene with Ledger/The Joker playing dead inside a body bag caused adverse reactions in the audience, for obvious reasons -- it will possibly be cut."

“My ‘Bond’ tells more about the somber epic of Chris Nolan:‘It's incredible to create something new and exciting, not only for i's history but in technical terms, nowadays. Many great scenes, impeccable effects. Music and sounds pretty loud, but helping the story. They have a heart beat they use in a sensational way (Remember the 2 note theme from the interview with Zimmer?!), anticipating the next scene -- a psychological trigger ala JAWS ('tan-tan, taqn-tan') ."


"The cast is awesome, Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman stealing scenes in which all are present. Maggie Gyllenhaal fantastic replacing Katie Holmes and Aaron Eckhart as a great surprise as the politician with a heart of gold whose personality changes after a horrible accident. Another surprise is Eric Roberts as the mobster he knows so well how to do. Christian Bale solid as ever, cool since Bruce Wayne is a rich playboy and Batman is the opposite. The film plays a lot with this duality, all the characters are complex, has ambiguities, very interesting and delicate here."

"The humor/comedy is totally dark, the movie is very dark and, in this version, a little too long. But will blow us away.”

[Harmsway]

Nice to see it's a positive review. Notes:

-I hope they don't cut the "Joker in the body bag" moment. Sounds great to me, and I don't want the movie to suffer just because he's deceased. It might play a little eerily now, but it'll be better for the film in the long run if it stays (assuming it's as good a moment as it sounds).

-The film uses the "heart beat" effect, which is an interesting detail. It sounds like more of a horror film effect than anything.

[sharpshooter]

Yep, it confirms the enourmous hype. I do hope they keep the body bag scene. It sounds very cool, I can just invision the Joker springing 'to life' to the surprise of some poor soul and doing something nasty to them. Could this in fact be the 'why so serious?' sequence as seen in the trailer?

[Qwerty]

All sounding excellent to me. Great find, sharpshooter.