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[stromberg]

The house, as published in the Kleine Zeitung:

 

Source: http://www.kleinezei...ne-stehen.story

 

Update: here are more views of the house:

http://www.brunnerph...ertilliach.html

 

 

 

BTW, here http://www.krone.at/...07-Story-422137 they say that the scene shot in Obertillach should be about 25 min. length. Hints to a PTS, maybe?

Looking at some details of that house, it doesn't look as if this was build to be anywhere else but in Austria - okay, maybe somewhere else in the Alps, like south Germany or Switzerland - but doubling for Norway/Spitsbergen seems unlikely.

[MkB]

Fully agreed Stromberg. This does look like a generic log cabin in the Alps.

[Dustin]

I'm surprised how huge this structure looks. That's three full storeys, the cellar - partially dug into the hill as is the practice in the Alps - and the attic. Quite a chalet, I expected a much smaller building when I read cabin.

[seawolfnyy]

I'm surprised how huge this structure looks. That's three full storeys, the cellar - partially dug into the hill as is the practice in the Alps - and the attic. Quite a chalet, I expected a much smaller building when I read cabin.

There are cabins and cabins. This is the latter.

[Dustin]

I'm surprised how huge this structure looks. That's three full storeys, the cellar - partially dug into the hill as is the practice in the Alps - and the attic. Quite a chalet, I expected a much smaller building when I read cabin.

There are cabins and cabins. This is the latter.

This could be a line of dialogue...

[Bourbon Woman]

This would be a natural opportunity for a Roger Moore cameo. He's a big skiing fan, isn't he? I seem to recall reading that he lived in a chalet in Davos for many years. It would be cool to put him in the background in one of the skiing scenes, wearing his white fur-trimmed parka from AVTAK or the blue one from FYEO. It would make a fun freeze-frame gag. 

[Dustin]

I'd actually like that, just a brief moment with him in the background, no dialogue, just him watching the action.

[S K Y F A L L]

A subtle Moore cameo would be cool.

[tdalton]

I guess I'll be the one to go against the grain and say that I wouldn't like to see a Moore cameo, or a cameo by any of the other Bond actors for that matter.  That's something that EON might have been able to get away with if the films hadn't already become so self-referential that some segments almost border on parody, but since we've reached that point, Bond 24 needs to be the beginning of a movement away from that.  There needs to be no references, no cameos, no subtle nods to the previous films (unless it's a continuation of Quantum and/or Vesper, as those originated with Craig), in Bond 24.  The films need to start making their own iconic moments rather than simply reminding us every couple of years of the iconic moments that the series created a long, long time ago.

[dirtymind]

The films need to start making their own iconic moments rather than simply reminding us every couple of years of the iconic moments that the series created a long, long time ago.

 

I couldn't agree with you more.

[Matt_13]

Yes, as I've said before it's time we entered a new age of modern Bond iconography. Let's see what they can cook up on their own.

[Call Billy Bob]

I'd actually welcome a Moore cameo, or any cameo in general. If you can't remember where you came from and have a laugh with it, I believe you are taking yourself too seriously.

[Dustin]

Well, it's highly unlikely to happen anyway, I suppose it's simply not the direction Eon is headed in right now. The ultimate cameo was the GOLDFINGER DB5. I feel they are done with that for now.

Edited by Dustin, 13 October 2014 - 06:50 AM.

[Vauxhall]

I guess I'll be the one to go against the grain and say that I wouldn't like to see a Moore cameo, or a cameo by any of the other Bond actors for that matter.  That's something that EON might have been able to get away with if the films hadn't already become so self-referential that some segments almost border on parody, but since we've reached that point, Bond 24 needs to be the beginning of a movement away from that.  There needs to be no references, no cameos, no subtle nods to the previous films (unless it's a continuation of Quantum and/or Vesper, as those originated with Craig), in Bond 24.  The films need to start making their own iconic moments rather than simply reminding us every couple of years of the iconic moments that the series created a long, long time ago.

 

I'm with you. 

[seawolfnyy]

 

I guess I'll be the one to go against the grain and say that I wouldn't like to see a Moore cameo, or a cameo by any of the other Bond actors for that matter.  That's something that EON might have been able to get away with if the films hadn't already become so self-referential that some segments almost border on parody, but since we've reached that point, Bond 24 needs to be the beginning of a movement away from that.  There needs to be no references, no cameos, no subtle nods to the previous films (unless it's a continuation of Quantum and/or Vesper, as those originated with Craig), in Bond 24.  The films need to start making their own iconic moments rather than simply reminding us every couple of years of the iconic moments that the series created a long, long time ago.

 

I'm with you. 

 

Me too.

[Bourbon Woman]

I guess I'll be the one to go against the grain and say that I wouldn't like to see a Moore cameo, or a cameo by any of the other Bond actors for that matter.  That's something that EON might have been able to get away with if the films hadn't already become so self-referential that some segments almost border on parody, but since we've reached that point, Bond 24 needs to be the beginning of a movement away from that.  There needs to be no references, no cameos, no subtle nods to the previous films (unless it's a continuation of Quantum and/or Vesper, as those originated with Craig), in Bond 24.  The films need to start making their own iconic moments rather than simply reminding us every couple of years of the iconic moments that the series created a long, long time ago.

 

I'm just talking about a freeze-frame gag. It needn't even be Moore himself - just a tall man in a yellow jumpsuit with a red rucksack, skiing along in the background. Casual viewers would just see a random extra, but fans would spot a reference to Moore's garish outfit in the opening of TSWLM. I think it would be funny and quite subtle. It seems kind of weird to me that anyone would be bothered by such an unobtrusive gag, considering that Bond films are routinely packed with far more overt references to past films.

[seawolfnyy]

 

I guess I'll be the one to go against the grain and say that I wouldn't like to see a Moore cameo, or a cameo by any of the other Bond actors for that matter.  That's something that EON might have been able to get away with if the films hadn't already become so self-referential that some segments almost border on parody, but since we've reached that point, Bond 24 needs to be the beginning of a movement away from that.  There needs to be no references, no cameos, no subtle nods to the previous films (unless it's a continuation of Quantum and/or Vesper, as those originated with Craig), in Bond 24.  The films need to start making their own iconic moments rather than simply reminding us every couple of years of the iconic moments that the series created a long, long time ago.

 

I'm just talking about a freeze-frame gag. It needn't even be Moore himself - just a tall man in a yellow jumpsuit with a red rucksack, skiing along in the background. Casual viewers would just see a random extra, but fans would spot a reference to Moore's garish outfit in the opening of TSWLM. I think it would be funny and quite subtle. It seems kind of weird to me that anyone would be bothered by such an unobtrusive gag, considering that Bond films are routinely packed with far more overt references to past films.

 

I suppose if it's handled the same way as Maud Adams in A View to a Kill. I mean how long did it take for anyone to realize she was in that? 20 years?

[tdalton]

It seems kind of weird to me that anyone would be bothered by such an unobtrusive gag, considering that Bond films are routinely packed with far more overt references to past films.

 

For me, it's a matter of wanting to see the new films create their own iconic moments rather than each successive film having to find a way to fit some kind of in-joke or gag into the film.  There's been far too much of that in the films as of late, especially in Skyfall.  The films are just becoming too self-referential for their own good, IMO.

[x007AceOfSpades]

There's been far too much of that in the films as of late, especially in Skyfall.  The films are just becoming too self-referential for their own good, IMO.

It was the 50th Anniversary in Skyfall, why wouldn't they be self-referential to the prior films....

[seawolfnyy]

 

There's been far too much of that in the films as of late, especially in Skyfall.  The films are just becoming too self-referential for their own good, IMO.

It was the 50th Anniversary in Skyfall, why wouldn't they be self-referential to the prior films....

 

Because they were in the 40th anniversary and the 46th too. In Quantum of Solace, they were even subtle about it.

[x007AceOfSpades]

 

 

There's been far too much of that in the films as of late, especially in Skyfall.  The films are just becoming too self-referential for their own good, IMO.

It was the 50th Anniversary in Skyfall, why wouldn't they be self-referential to the prior films....

 

Because they were in the 40th anniversary and the 46th too. In Quantum of Solace, they were even subtle about it.

 

And that's a problem? Self-referential homages, subtle or not, aren't that big of a problem. It's not like it's going to ruin someone's viewing of it.

 

Or will it?

[SecretAgentFan]

I believe, tdalton proposes that the Bond films should rather establish new things than stay in the past.  

 

Which would be sensible since Bond films are always carrying a legacy with them - and they will always be self-referential.  So, if they are still doing "Goldfinger"-homages in twenty years it might get a bit... um... stale.

[seawolfnyy]

 

 

 

There's been far too much of that in the films as of late, especially in Skyfall.  The films are just becoming too self-referential for their own good, IMO.

It was the 50th Anniversary in Skyfall, why wouldn't they be self-referential to the prior films....

 

Because they were in the 40th anniversary and the 46th too. In Quantum of Solace, they were even subtle about it.

 

And that's a problem? Self-referential homages, subtle or not, aren't that big of a problem. It's not like it's going to ruin someone's viewing of it.

 

Or will it?

 

Well, when they are incredibly blatant and overused (Fields' death, throwing Haines' bodyguard off the roof). Using the Goldfinger car in SF wasn't as surprising as the DB5 had appeared in GE, TND and CR. I think Skyfall ended up being better without having Connery because it really would've been a distraction from the final act.

[x007AceOfSpades]

I can see that, but I didn't see the problem with self-references in Skyfall or Die Another Day, since they are the 40th and 50th anniversaries, respectively. However, I also don't think that each Bond film needs to self-reference every single time. Save them for special occasions, like Skyfall. 

[seawolfnyy]

I guess that's fair, especially as there weren't 10th, 20th or 30th anniversary films. I just think that they tend to get silly after awhile and there is absolutely no reason that the 22nd Bond film needed to be so self-referential. Of course if it weren't, then the film probably would've been even shorter...Man my opinion on Quantum of Solace has flipped. Maybe I need to watch it again....

[x007AceOfSpades]

The only think I remember being self-referential in Quantum Of Solace was Fields being covered in oil and her pose on the bed, mirroring that of Goldfinger. My opinion of Quantum Of Solace hasn't changed at all, and it probably won't. 

[Luigi Ferrari]

News and photos from Obertilliach:

http://www.dolomiten...-streng-geheim/

[Shrublands]

News and photos from Obertilliach:

http://www.dolomiten...-streng-geheim/

 

Thanks, Luigi.

 

It seems they are recruiting local help for the last week of November and the first week of December, then for 4 weeks between January and February.

They need about 150 people trained as mountain rescuers, drivers of snow groomers and craftsmen. 

[SecretAgentFan]

Looks like they want to pay homage to OHMSS with such a big sequence in the snow.

 

Obviously.

Edited by SecretAgentFan, 15 October 2014 - 01:13 PM.

[Shrublands]

With this set well under way with construction and talk of needing people for the end of November/ beginning of December, perhaps Eon are going to do the start of shoot press conference on location.

Back in the day, that's how they did the press launch for films like FYEO, AVTAK and TLD. With the worlds media gathering in Corfu, Chateau Chantilly and Vienna, respectively.

I think it might be a possibility. With Mendes's approach of not wanting to talk too much about the film's content, it might go some way to keeping the journalist more occupied and give them lots to write about other than loads of 'no comment'.