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[sharpshooter]

I'd be okay with a passing reference, but anything too obvious reaches Spider-Man 'the untold story' territory for my liking. 

[x007AceOfSpades]

I'd be okay with a passing reference, but anything too obvious reaches Spider-Man 'the untold story' territory for my liking. 

Agreed.

[Trevelyan 006]

Filming in Obertilliach will take 3-7 days.

This will involve 2 "Aircraft" which are being transported from England. The Airport at Doelsach has already been booked to accommodate this.

At least one of the aircraft will crash into the set being built in the area.

 

It looks as if there will also be filming in Sölden, with some sequences shoot on the Rettenbachferner Glacier.

The glacier is located west of Sölden, 2600-3360m above sea level.

 

 

... Just a thought.

[Guy Haines]

Hi Call Billy Bob,

 

I wouldn't know a theoretical lightning bolt even if I got struck by one!  As for me shooting one, I'm a poor shot.

 

I just don't see how Bond's parents could be included in the next movie or a future movie, except in flashback, and Bond films tend not to do flashbacks (Casino Royale's opening being an exception, cutting between Bond confronting Dryden in the present and beating the daylights out of Dryden's contact in the past.) That said, it wouldn't preclude a reference to them, just as Bond's doomed marriage to Tracy was mentioned one way or another three Bond films I can think of after OHMSS.

 

And the character I mentioned from Octopussy, Oberhauser, could be included and killed off. He reads like a similar character to Kincade in SF. If killed off, as he was murdered in Octopussy it would give a personal edge to Bond's mission - except that  the "this time it's personal" line has been flogged many times in Bond films of recent vintage, and maybe audiences, fans and the film makers want to give that line a rest.

[Call Billy Bob]

Either I'm over-exaggerating, or your aim is more true than you know!

[agentbug]

I too am glad for a snowy sequence, but agree the one from TWINE is a bit of a let-down (although I do love the line, 'See you back at the lodge..')

 

But I don't think the time they're spending there means it will be a large sequence, so possibly it is just the opening spectacle. Then again, crashing a plane into a town does sound more of a climatic thing... too much set up to explain there are no innocents living in the town for a pre-title sequence... ah, the speculation will run rife I'm sure for the next year.

[billy007]

Cubby's credo: "When in doubt go back to Fleming."

Does even the die-hard literary fan want to be bogged down with Fleming references?

I repeat myself- The average 007 fan is a movie fan not a book fan.

Don't waste time with literary references if the average 007 movie-goer can't/won't appreciate it.

TV shows like "Arrow" and "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." are becoming too cute when the throw in a comic book reference that only a comic reader of 15+ years will understand.(Yes, I'm one of them)But those are comic books not 007.

[Vauxhall]

I'd definitely welcome a brief Hannes Oberhauser appearance. There aren't many untouched Fleming nods. This seems a good opportunity for one.

[marktmurphy]

I'd definitely welcome a brief Hannes Oberhauser appearance. There aren't many untouched Fleming nods. This seems a good opportunity for one.

 

Not entirely untouched as Major Smythe was mentioned in the movie of Octopussy.

[Guy Haines]

 

I'd definitely welcome a brief Hannes Oberhauser appearance. There aren't many untouched Fleming nods. This seems a good opportunity for one.

 

Not entirely untouched as Major Smythe was mentioned in the movie of Octopussy.

 

Smythe was mentioned in the film Octopussy, but not Oberhauser. The location of the crime was switched from Austria to Korea, presumably during the Korean War. Bond relates that Smythe and an unnamed guide found some North Korean gold, Smythe then killed the guide and kept it the gold to himself. Actually the way it's done sort of inverts the original story - in the short story it's Bond who has reason for revenge, although he doesn't take it, because Oberhauser was his "father figure" for a time after his parents died. In the film, it's Octopussy herself who has reason for revenge - or we're led to believe she has - because Bond was the man who was sent after her father, Dexter Smythe. But she doesn't seek vengeance either - because Bond allowed her dad a way out of a court martial and disgrace, namely suicide.

 

So as I see it, Hannes Oberhauser could be included, if the screenwriters were so inclined. We'll have to wait and see.

[glidrose]

and Bond films tend not to do flashbacks (Casino Royale's opening being an exception, cutting between Bond confronting Dryden in the present and beating the daylights out of Dryden's contact in the past.)

OHMSS and MR also have flashbacks.

[seawolfnyy]

Lovely shots of the snow capped peaks!! Just oozes vibes of Piz Gloria and the Swiss skiing sequences from OHMSS!   I'd love to have a snow peak climbing sequence which could rival the St. Cyrils rock climbing scene in FYEO!

My thoughts exactly. Oh if Piz Gloria were to return....

[Simon]

What was the flashback in Mr??

[sharpshooter]

What was the flashback in Mr??

Q's briefing about the wrist dart gun?

[Berni99]

Probably Obertilliach will play 25 Minutes in the Film

 

http://www.krone.at/...07-Story-422137

Edited by Berni99, 07 October 2014 - 04:19 PM.

[dirtymind]

So, it's not the PTS they're filming.

[Bourbon Woman]

My German is bad. Is the article saying that the scene will be 25 minutes long, or that the scene will begin at the 25-minute mark? 

[Berni99]

25 minutes long

 

But i'm not sure if it is true, i think its speculation

 

 

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From another board

 

it looks like they want to remove the power poles and the ski-lift (or at least parts of it) for the shooting, for filming the plane crash in the wood near the village. and they think Obertilliach will be used for a major sequence of the movie with 25 minutes screen time (which would maybe be arount 10-15min finally...)

Edited by Berni99, 07 October 2014 - 09:35 PM.

[Bourbon Woman]

So will it be 25 minutes or 10-15 minutes? If the latter, then it could easily be a PTS. The PTS from TWINE was 15 minutes long.

[Vauxhall]

A couple more photos from JamesBond.de: 

http://www.jamesbond...ch-und-italien/

[Gernot]

So will it be 25 minutes or 10-15 minutes? If the latter, then it could easily be a PTS. The PTS from TWINE was 15 minutes long.

 

In Obertilliach they were told 25 minutes... And I just thought ok, when they tell them 25 minutes it's normally less in the final movie... but this was just my interpretation right now I or we just don't know if the Austrian (or Norway...) sequences will be the PTS, or the final or somewhere in the middle of the movie... 

[Guy Haines]

In answer to glidrose above, point taken about OHMSS and MR, although for a moment I struggled to think of them. I assume they are Bond packing his stuff in OHMSS with various Bond themes played, and Bond in the centrifuge in MR remembering from Q's briefing how to use that dart gun. The CR flashback is more substantial though. And as I said Bond films tend not to do flashbacks, not that they never do them.

 

And I think some on this thread are speculating about a flashback involving Bond's parents in Austria. It might happen, but given the record of the films to date, I have my doubts.

[Ace Roberts]

One of the stories that surfaced after Skyfall was Mendes and Logan's desire to further explore the psyche of Bond in the next film, to look into what makes the man tick. I believe it is possible for a climbing sequence to be used without a flashback, just as Bond's reactions and memories at Skyfall was pulled off without using that tool. I still think there is a great opportunity to further peel back his psyche in this type of sequence without falling into the Spider-Man trap, as others have defined it.

[Call Billy Bob]

I don't mind looking into Bond's psyche, but let's keep it minimal - too much doom and gloom in the series lately.

[Guy Haines]

The James Bond MI6 website reports that a large house is being constructed in the Austrian location, which will then be destroyed during the film. Aircraft are apparently involved.

 

Shades of Skyfall?

[GalaSilva]

I'm not a fan of seeing Bond's parents or origin story or whatever, but if they are maybe that's who Downtown Abbey's Joanne Froggatt is going to play - James Bond's mother perhaps?

[Call Billy Bob]

Maybe not an origin story, but perhaps just a bad dream or something similar - if Bond is faced with climbing a dangerous peak, could he imagine his parents' deaths?

[stromberg]

The James Bond MI6 website reports that a large house is being constructed in the Austrian location, which will then be destroyed during the film. Aircraft are apparently involved.

 

Shades of Skyfall?

Yup. Links to the original reports from Kronen-Zeitung and Kleine Zeitung where they lifted it from can be found in this thread, too.

[MkB]

The house, as published in the Kleine Zeitung:

 

Source: http://www.kleinezei...ne-stehen.story

 

Update: here are more views of the house:

http://www.brunnerph...ertilliach.html

 

 

 

BTW, here http://www.krone.at/...07-Story-422137 they say that the scene shot in Obertillach should be about 25 min. length. Hints to a PTS, maybe?

[glidrose]

In answer to glidrose above, point taken about OHMSS and MR, although for a moment I struggled to think of them. I assume they are Bond packing his stuff in OHMSS with various Bond themes played,

No. Bond staring out M's office and we see a superimposed image of Tracy being abducted, which I always took to be an artistic flashback.