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[x007AceOfSpades]

I'm happy for all the great reviews the film has been garnered with, just the one (little - if you take it that way) aspect that is still bugging me.

[TheSilhouette]

I'm liking what I'm hearing. I don't really care much about the gunbarrel, honestly, so that isn't a dealbreaker for me. Roll on November 9th!!

[Vauxhall]

reviewers say it is a classic but isn't gunbarrel part of that?

A tiny part. I'd wager the general film-going public don't particularly care.

It doesn't bother me either. The best thing they can do now is always keep the gunbarrel at the end, and not chop and change in future.

Anyway, the great news are the positive reviews. I know we all expected it, but great to see Mendes has apparently lived up to the expectations.

[The Dove]

Gunbarrel not in the proper place again??!! *breaks down in tears* Waaa!! Nooooo!!! Seriously, I'm still all excited for the movie and am sure it will kick , but EON..please stop messing around with tradition!!

[x007AceOfSpades]

EON..please stop messing around with tradition!!

I (still) am blaming Marc Forster for this.

[Matt_13]

I think this is one of the few instances when knowing beforehand is beneficial. Some serious disappointment inbound for a few who were expecting everything in it's proper place.

[JazzyBond]

Sounds awesome but no gun barrel in the beginning has me upset. Silva is openly gay? That should be interesting!

Edited by JazzyBond, 12 October 2012 - 10:40 PM.

[Berni99]

Every bondfan want the Gunbarrel at the Beginning, why they put it on the End of the Film, i want Answers from the Producers

Edited by Berni99, 12 October 2012 - 10:42 PM.

[Pussfeller]

Sounds awesome but no gun barrel in the beginning has me upset. Silva is openly gay? That should be interesting!

I thought more people would be talking about that. Was this already widely known?

[Vauxhall]

Every bondfan want the Gunbarrel at the Beginning, why they put it on the End of the Film, i want Answers from the Producers

I'm not hugely phased by this, but I think it's inevitable that Mendes or the producers will have to explain this at some point.

Sounds awesome but no gun barrel in the beginning has me upset. Silva is openly gay? That should be interesting!

I thought more people would be talking about that. Was this already widely known?

I suspected it after seeing the trailer, but I don't think it was particularly discussed since.

[Matt_13]

Yeah, Silva being gay isn't surprising. Interested to see how it's handled, though.

[FredJB007]

Every bondfan want the Gunbarrel at the Beginning, why they put it on the End of the Film, i want Answers from the Producers

I'm not hugely phased by this, but I think it's inevitable that Mendes or the producers will have to explain this at some point.

Sounds awesome but no gun barrel in the beginning has me upset. Silva is openly gay? That should be interesting!

I thought more people would be talking about that. Was this already widely known?

I suspected it after seeing the trailer, but I don't think it was particularly discussed since.

Maybe in the past, JB resisted Silva's advances and that really got him pissed.....LOL

[thecasinoroyale]

........wow!! All these are blurring into one big fat positive but I'm niffed about the gunbarrel...very niffed - so Craig's not got his classic Bond film yet then!

[Vauxhall]

Jane Crowther @totalfilm_jane
Bond vs Silva in skyfall is like batman vs the joker. Delicious.

Kate Muir @muirkate
In my haste to review #SKYFALL, failed to mention that cinematographer Roger Deakins is a god.

David Winter @davidwinter (aka "The Admiral")
#SKYFALL DONE - been to press screening - Bond back to its roots. 5 stars.

[marktmurphy]

So much for Total Film having their review up at 10.30!

[Pussfeller]

Yeah, Silva being gay isn't surprising. Interested to see how it's handled, though.

I admit to being surprised. It's routine for action movie villains to be effeminate or vaguely "bent", but explicitly gay is something else. If the depiction isn't pitch-perfect, they risk being accused of perpetuating yada yada yada. (And not without some justification, considering Bond's history with this stuff.) So I'm impressed that they've decided to go there. And it makes a lot of sense, given some of the stuff Bardem has said about the character. I can well imagine how this trait might figure in Silva's personal calamities and motivations for taking revenge, and how it could result in a more sympathetic and complex character.

[Satorious]

Please also mark me down in the "leave the Gun-barrel at the starter where it belongs" column, just a simple thing which has become completely grating now during Craig's tenure! But overall the quality of the film sounds encouraging.

[Vauxhall]

TheShiznit.co.uk review - possible spoilers
http://www.theshizni...iew/skyfall.php

[DominicGreene]

I'm not sure whether to be happy, or disappointed... I wanted that god damned gunbarrel at the beginning!

[Luigi Ferrari]

Skyfall reviews - possible spoilers
http://uk.movies.yah...-224751356.html
http://skymovies.sky.../skyfall/review

[Vauxhall]

Den of Geek review - possible spoilers
http://www.denofgeek...ler-free-review

[PPK_19]

Yeah, Silva being gay isn't surprising. Interested to see how it's handled, though.

I admit to being surprised. It's routine for action movie villains to be effeminate or vaguely "bent", but explicitly gay is something else. If the depiction isn't pitch-perfect, they risk being accused of perpetuating yada yada yada. (And not without some justification, considering Bond's history with this stuff.) So I'm impressed that they've decided to go there. And it makes a lot of sense, given some of the stuff Bardem has said about the character. I can well imagine how this trait might figure in Silva's personal calamities and motivations for taking revenge, and how it could result in a more sympathetic and complex character.

Not sure about 'explicitly gay' i believe in one of the reviews it mentioned a scene between Bond and Silva being 'loaded with meaning'. I'm guessing it's implied at best.

[007jamesbond]

have any movies change some stuff after getting early reviews and make some minor changes to the film? Could this happen here? maybe the gunbarrel at the end is some test only

[PPK_19]

have any movies change some stuff after getting early reviews and make some minor changes to the film? Could this happen here? maybe the gunbarrel at the end is some test only

No. Because then the reviewed film isn't indicative of what the audiences end up seeing. The gun barrel is at the end.

[Vauxhall]

Yeah, Silva being gay isn't surprising. Interested to see how it's handled, though.

I admit to being surprised. It's routine for action movie villains to be effeminate or vaguely "bent", but explicitly gay is something else. If the depiction isn't pitch-perfect, they risk being accused of perpetuating yada yada yada. (And not without some justification, considering Bond's history with this stuff.) So I'm impressed that they've decided to go there. And it makes a lot of sense, given some of the stuff Bardem has said about the character. I can well imagine how this trait might figure in Silva's personal calamities and motivations for taking revenge, and how it could result in a more sympathetic and complex character.

Not sure about 'explicitly gay' i believe in one of the reviews it mentioned a scene between Bond and Silva being 'loaded with meaning'. I'm guessing it's implied at best.

Yes, from a handful of reviews, I think it's strongly implied that Silva has some level of attraction to Bond, but I doubt it will be stated verbally.

The Guardian review - possible spoilers
http://www.guardian....w?newsfeed=true

[Matt_13]

Any negative reviews yet? Haven't seen any.

[stone7]

Guardian review isn't totally mad for it. Averaging 4-5/5 reviews seen so far which is great.

[Vauxhall]

Any negative reviews yet? Haven't seen any.

The Guardian is the worst so far, but there are still lots of positives in there. The reviewer's real issue seems to be with any emotion in the final stages of film, which I'm sure will be a strong aspect for many Bond fans.

Jane Crowther @totalfilm_jane
Silva in skyfall is part Lecter, part Joker, part Liberace. THE best thing in it.

[Matt_13]

I'm just happy that after four years of waiting we'll be watching something done right.

[stone7]

Seconded vauxhall. For me emotion with DC as bond is a big sell. Look forward to empire, total film and esp mark kermode reviewing. Fingers crossed. Now anymore best bond ever reviews to read?!