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[Shrublands]

 

 

I don't remember BOM ever saying that. 

 

Franchise Forecast 2012.

 

...One disappointing movie can't kill his  (Bond's) mojo. This might not reach the same levels as Craig's other entries, but it is still guaranteed to be a late year hit.

 

http://www.boxoffice...id=3337&p=s.htm

 

 

It's from January. That's hardly something to hold them to. They never considered (or knew) 2012 was the 50th anniversary of James Bond, had any idea Bond would take part in a much reported Olympics stunt, feature a well-received theme song, or that the movie would be as well-received as it turned out to be.

 

And BOM based that and other predictions of theirs on its predecessors and its success/failure. Not a good indicator especially for James Bond. We all do it though so it was about in line with what everyone else was expecting. But BOM is usually pretty bad at predicting the popularity of a movie especially when said movie is a solo outing without a series to base it on. When it finally hit and they saw the numbers, their estimates changed. Hence that 900 million. Skyfall had staying power internationally though, I don't think they expected that.

 

 

 

Well I was stressing that this was before, yes during one of their forecasts for 2012, such things tend to be at the start of the year.

 

Anyway, here is something that was a lot closer - their Holiday forecast published on Oct 31st - That's after the biggest week of all time opening in the UK.  (Not to mention, after the rave reviews, Adele’s single, Global James Bond Day and the Olympics).

 

Then they were predicting a U.S. take of $185m, that's less than DAD and CR when you take inflation into account and a wopping $120m less than what Skyfall will take. 

 

http://www.boxoffice...id=3556&p=s.htm

[quantumofsolace]

sfx

dec 21 2012

 

So how did Skyfall do it? How did the 23rd Bond movie become a bona fide phenomenon, trousering the kind of silly money usually only obtained by threatening the UN with an orbital laser platform?

Let’s not rule out the simple power of patriotism – this summer saw Her Majesty’s secret servant recruited for security detail at the London Olympics (with Her Majesty herself on comic relief duty) and a little of that red, white and blue bulldog buzz undoubtedly attached itself to the film’s release.

But Skyfall has taken a staggering $952,207,818 worldwide (at time of writing). This is a global smash, edging Ian Fleming’s superspy into the dizzying, high-altitude realm of Avatar and The Lord Of The Rings. The Bond brand has a half-century advantage at the box office, of course, and the franchise’s golden anniversary undoubtedly triggered a groundswell of appreciation and affection for the old boy – but that doesn’t quite explain it either. And Skyfall does an awful lot of things that, on the surface, screw with the time-honoured sacraments of a Bond film: the new Q brings a snotty hipster attitude to the cherished gizmology of yesterday, there’s no grand world-threatening scheme, Dame Judi Dench becomes the de facto Bond babe and, in a sense, our hero fails.

But, in the broader creative sense, Bond triumphs. Skyfall is a juggernaut because it’s built on some mighty talents: Sam Mendes, transitioning from arthouse to blockbuster mode but keeping his core emotional values intact; Javier Bardem, making the Bond villain be an outsized, crowdpleasing turn again; cinematographer Roger Deakins, painting the East as some shimmering fever dream; Daniel Craig, finally allowing glimmers of wit and irony to puncture his hard man shell. Plus, it has komodo dragons. And komodo dragons rock.

By the end of Skyfall it feels as though the house of Bond has been rebuilt from the foundations up, completing the mission begun by Casino Royale in 2006. We’re back in business, and reporting for duty.

[seawolfnyy]

Questioning Bond about Skyfall:

 

"How did you manage all of that?"

 

Bond: "Just keeping the British end up."

[Hockey Mask]

US Box Office

$4.7 million weekend

$280 million total

Edited by 00Hockey Mask, 23 December 2012 - 10:19 PM.

[Germanlady]

PopCannon ‏@popcannon
#Skyfall has now earned $974M worldwide. Should hit amazing $1B mark before end of year. #boxoffice

Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $279,972,000
+ Foreign: $694,300,000

[Double-0-Seven]

Unbelievable! I figured about $965 million by the end of the weekend, but as always, Skyfall continues to shatter expectations this far into its release.

[Mallory]

Skyfall could possibly beat out Thunderball for most attended Bond film before it is released in China next month.

 

Of course the Connery films did a lot better in the US. Americans just don't seem be that into James Bond even though it is now number four in the box office.

Edited by Mallory, 27 December 2012 - 06:40 PM.

[K1Bond007]

Skyfall could possibly beat out Thunderball for most attended Bond film before it is released in China next month.

 

Of course the Connery films did a lot better in the US. Americans just don't seem be that into James Bond even though it is now number four in the box office.

 

It's nearing 300 million. I don't get how you can even come to such a crazy conclusion.

[Invincible1958]

 

Skyfall could possibly beat out Thunderball for most attended Bond film before it is released in China next month.

 

Of course the Connery films did a lot better in the US. Americans just don't seem be that into James Bond even though it is now number four in the box office.

 

It's nearing 300 million. I don't get how you can even come to such a crazy conclusion.

 

 

He means, that "Skyfall" is Number 4 by admissions in the US (behind Thunderball, Goldfinger and You Only Live Twice).

[Mallory]

 

 

Skyfall could possibly beat out Thunderball for most attended Bond film before it is released in China next month.

 

Of course the Connery films did a lot better in the US. Americans just don't seem be that into James Bond even though it is now number four in the box office.

 

It's nearing 300 million. I don't get how you can even come to such a crazy conclusion.

 

 

He means, that "Skyfall" is Number 4 by admissions in the US (behind Thunderball, Goldfinger and You Only Live Twice).

 

 

Here is my source for the US domestic inflation

 

http://boxofficemojo...d=jamesbond.htm

 

It will be number 3 behind Goldfinger. It may also secure the number one spot worldwide when it hits China.

[Elvenstar]

SF finally beat Twilight!

enough reason to celebrate for me

[Bond... Raybond]

SF finally beat Twilight!

enough reason to celebrate for me

 

Wonderfull news! But what is your source?

[stromberg]

 

SF finally beat Twilight!
enough reason to celebrate for me

 
Wonderfull news! But what is your source?
 

 

This? http://boxofficemojo...art/past365.htm

Also, I notice that many of the foreign figures at BOM are as of 12/16/12, which means that those are almost two weeks old, and that the international holiday season wasn't taken into this account.

Conclusion: Skyfall will hit One Billion Dollar before the new year. 

[Bond... Raybond]

Thanks Stromberg. It takes a real agent to defeat those pesky vampires.

 

Now we just have to wait for the international box office updates this weekend to see if the billion is reached this week or next.

[Mallory]

BOM is a great source for box office numbers. It took almost a month for it to beat Twilight in the US. Internationally it only took like a week.

 

Good point on the foriegn intake. A lot of it is unaccounted for but unfortunately some of it will remain that way for awhile. But It will certainly hit one billion before it hits China.

[Hotwinds]

There is an article saying that Skyfall just beat out Goldfinger and will most likely pass Thunderball after it hits the China market.  I am very happy that Bond is doing so well but I have to say that in 1965 for example there were half as many people alive on the planet that there is now so you really should double the figures from Goldfinger and Thunderball and then you would get a better idea of just how big those films were way back then.

I hope this makes 007 the number one franchise and if not it will after the next Bond come out.

[Glockenspiel]

SKYFALL is now the biggest movie success in France for 2012.
And last but not least, SKYFALL is now the biggest Bond movie success "all time" in France, beating up GOLDFINGER, which was the number one since 48 years!
It's a tremendous success for SKYFALL and Craig.

[Invincible1958]

Also, I notice that many of the foreign figures at BOM are as of 12/16/12, which means that those are almost two weeks old, and that the international holiday season wasn't taken into this account.

 

 

The overall overseas figure is as of 23/16/12.

Even if there are some single markets, that are not updated, their total figures are still part of the foreign total figures.

 

It is possible that Skyfall will hit $1 billion worldwide this sunday, but I doubt it. But it will reach that mark for sure next week.

[graric]

There is an article saying that Skyfall just beat out Goldfinger and will most likely pass Thunderball after it hits the China market.  I am very happy that Bond is doing so well but I have to say that in 1965 for example there were half as many people alive on the planet that there is now so you really should double the figures from Goldfinger and Thunderball and then you would get a better idea of just how big those films were way back then.

I hope this makes 007 the number one franchise and if not it will after the next Bond come out.

You would then also have to take into account the expansion of Television, the Internet, Home Video Market, Piracy etc to explain why going to see a film in the cinemas is no longer the dominant form of entertainment and people no longer see films with the regularity they did in the 60's. (So relatively speaking, with all that competition, Skyfall is doing just as well as Bond at his peak.)

Going by Wikipedia, not including inflation, Bond is still 1.7 Billion behind Harry Potter (so it will likely take 2 films for it to take the number one spot again, although there is a chance someone like Marvel might over take them in that time.)
Taking Inflation into account, however, Bond is the highest grossing franchise sitting comfortably around 13 billion.

[graric]

Skyfall has passed 1 Billion world wide! (according to Box Office Mojo) It now only has to make another 14 Million to beat Thunderball's record.

http://www.boxoffice.../?id=bond23.htm

[Matt_13]

Wow.

 

http://www.thewrap.c...ox-office-70931

[Hockey Mask]

Prediction: Sam Mendes is announced as director of Bond 24 within 90 days.

[Matt_13]

I'd be stunned if they didn't get him back at this point.

[x007AceOfSpades]

I think it will surpass 'The Dark Knight Rises' now.

[Mallory]

It is definitley going to surpass Thunderball. When it hits China it is going to make at least $50 million. 

 

You bet your ass they are going to get Mendes and Logan back.

[Matt_13]

Logan's working on the next two films. We're waiting on Mendes. The real trick will be, if they do get Sam back, whether they can persuade Roger Deakins to return.

[Mallory]

I hope so. Deakins is the man. They should bring back Thomas Newman too. 

 

Lets hope they nail the casting again. I think what really help made Skyfall so great was the solid casting, script and production.

[DamnCoffee]

Absoloutely fantastic! 

[FredJB007]

Freaking WOW!!!!!

[Orion]

even taking into account inflation it's the second most successful Bond movie ever, but only just. With it still to open in some places (hello China) it will undoubtedly surpass Thunderball and be the most successful Bond movie ever!! Eon would be mad not to do whatever they can to get all of Skyfall' s crew back with Sam Mendes.