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[MkB]

It's only as I watch this clip that I realize that, as Bond is fighting on the train, he still has an earpiece in place, so presumably he hears the dialogue between M and Eve... Quite interesting! In this case, he holds his share of responsibility, because he does not seem to act in a way that would facilitate the sniper's job, giving her a clean line of fire by getting away from Patrice - he just goes on with his regular fight.

I'm not overenthusiastic about the fall, as cinematographic as it is. It seems way too high to be compatible with life, especially for someone just shot with a long range rifle. But well, it's Bond!

[DamnCoffee]

They probably made the fall seem longer and more exciting due to editing. It's only 300ft, which isn't too bad, considering what else Bond as done in the past. Quantum skydive for example. I mean I had no problem with it, but I know that many did. I thought it was fine, though. I can live with silliness on that level, because it complements the action and drama. Especially for Sky... fall.

[MkB]

They probably made the fall seem longer and more exciting due to editing. It's only 300ft, which isn't too bad, considering what else Bond as done in the past. Quantum skydive for example. I mean I had no problem with it, but I know that many did. I thought it was fine, though. I can live with silliness on that level, because it complements the action and drama. Especially for Sky... fall.

Well I DID hate the skydive-without-a-chute-and-land-like-a-flower scene from QOS

And really a 300ft fall (unconscious, head first) is not normally compatible with life, it seems experts agree with that:
http://www.greenharb...l#anchor1234543

That said, you're right: it's Bond after all, and if one man can survive this ithas to be 007

[thecasinoroyale]

I really can't stop watching this....this has to be one of the best moments from any recent Bond film....for decades. Just, wow.

[Vauxhall]

The other thing that should be pointed out about the fall is the pretty smart CGI. From memory, there's no water below the Varda Viaduct, so it's all done through composite shots to create the illusion - and it looks fantastic!

Dennis Gassner's effort with recreating MI6 is also very impressive. Looks like what I imagine the real deal's interiors to be.

[JCRendle]

I only just noticed the window behind M, the view is what I'd expect to see from Vauxhall Cross over the river.

[thecasinoroyale]

I agree with you both - for a fall that big, it looks great and not elaborated to O-T-T measures, and I didn't know about the water!

And again with MI6 - I can just see that interior through the outside window almost. Great creativity and thought behind this film.

[Vauxhall]

Exclusive clip on Apple.com of Bond and Silva facing off in the tunnels beneath London: http://trailers.appl...ctures/skyfall/

* Update: Half an hour after I posted this and no thread explosion. I'm surprised.

[MattofSteel]

Pretty cool. Such a Joker vibe going on in Silva. I'll take the reviews at their word that he's phenomenal, and that it doesn't come off as a Ledger imitation. That little sound he makes when the bomb goes off is priceless.

[stone7]

Amazing. You get how wacky ruthless fairly camp Silva is from that clip alone.

[MkB]

Am I the only one to find that Bond shows appalling professional skills in this clip? How can he let Silva, held at gunpoint, activate a device, slowly and openly?

Thinking about it... Isn't it a first example of a Villain playing the traditional Bond Trick ™ on Bond himself? I mean, Silva is in Bond's power but does not panick, makes small talk, distracts him, and suddenly takes advantage when all the odds were against him. That's usually what Bond does to the Villain, not the other way round.

[The Dove]

Like Quarrel Jr. said in Live And Let Die.. " SWEET MOTHER OF PEARL!! " Pure Bond AWESOMNESS indeed!!

[univex]

Wonderful, absolutely gorgeous film.

[JCRendle]

Here is a new clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIdYDRoUIOA

This is obviously the scene that the journalists saw being filmed.

[SolidWaffle]

Bardem is great.

Edited by SolidWaffle, 15 October 2012 - 08:14 PM.

[univex]

Craig looks really cool in this. I´m almost getting used to that awful hair. Doesn´t look like Tintin in this and in many other scenes.

The cinematopgraphy is absolutely spot on.

[TheManwiththeWaltherPPK]

I don't really get the criticisms regarding Craig's hair. I think the very short cut makes him look like the Fleming sketch of the literary Bond, which has a receding hairline at the temples and short hair slicked back rather flatly. I think Craig's haircut gives him a visual toughness that is similar to that present in the Fleming sketch.

[univex]

I don't really get the criticisms regarding Craig's hair. I think the very short cut makes him look like the Fleming sketch of the literary Bond, which has a receding hairline at the temples and short hair slicked back rather flatly. I think Craig's haircut gives him a visual toughness that is similar to that present in the Fleming sketch.

It´s mainly how they made him look in the posters. If you take the Empire cover, it´s perfect


Now, if you take the posters and most of the campaign photos, he just looks like Tintin. But hey, let´s not derail the thread, I know it´s my fault, and it´s easy to get things hairy in here. Bond looks just fine on film, I agree. Now, to the clip again

Will they release a clip every day? I know it´s great but I do hope they don´t. I can´t help myself, I have to watch them all. Damn spoiler addict.

[MkB]

The Craig haircut seems to be growing on hairdressers. Mine gave me the same today, without my asking for it

But back to the clip: no reactions about my earlier post, and the subpar behaviour of Bond?

[univex]

The Craig haircut seems to be growing on hairdressers. Mine gave me the same today, without my asking for it

But back to the clip: no reactions about my earlier post, and the subpar behaviour of Bond?

I agree, although, if he shot him, the film would´ve been a lot shorter They´ll probably make a "How it should have ended" animated version on youtube

[Single-O-Seven]

The Craig haircut seems to be growing on hairdressers. Mine gave me the same today, without my asking for it

But back to the clip: no reactions about my earlier post, and the subpar behaviour of Bond?

I thought it odd too that Bond, pointing a gun at Silva, allowed him to reach for a radio device on his jacket which Silva's dialogue made clear was for nefarious reasons. In real life, if a terrorist up to mischief within the subway system was held at gunpoint and reaching for a radio device he'd be shot dead without hesitation. But this is a movie and would have ended too abruptly had Bond simply shot him there and then. And we wouldn't have got the cool subway crash!

[univex]

The Craig haircut seems to be growing on hairdressers. Mine gave me the same today, without my asking for it

But back to the clip: no reactions about my earlier post, and the subpar behaviour of Bond?

I thought it odd too that Bond, pointing a gun at Silva, allowed him to reach for a radio device on his jacket which Dilva's dialogue made clear was for nefarious reasons. In real life, if a terrorist up to mischief within the subway system was held at gunpoint and reaching for a radio device he'd be shot dead without hesitation. But this is a movie and would have ended too abruptly had Bond simply shot him there and then. And we wouldn't have got the cool subway crash!

Besides, curiosity killed the cat, and we all know Bond has a death wish. All cat´s are grey. Bond is curious about evil. As in the novels.

[Vauxhall]

The Craig haircut seems to be growing on hairdressers. Mine gave me the same today, without my asking for it

Haha, that's quite an extreme cut if you're not used to it.

I agree with your point about Bond being unprofessional in failing to take his chance to shoot Silva, but I also like the other suggestion that it's a nice mirror of all those times that the villain has a chance to finish off Bond but doesn't.

[MkB]

Of course... Since 2005, Londoners sadly know that one does not even have to be a terrorist to be shot in the Tube by police officers when a terror attack is suspected

Still, I wonder if this will be acknowledged in the film as a mistake from Bond. Will he feel responsible for the death of the people in the tube carriage? Will he feel that if he had been in a better shape, physical and psychological, this would have never happened? Or will it just be treated as collateral damage?

Haha, that's quite an extreme cut if you're not used to it.

Yeah, indeed, I feel like a more masculine version of Brienne of Tarth

[Shrublands]

Oh this looks so good - all that I hoped for. Cinematography, direction, performances - superb.

[thecasinoroyale]

Wow, thanks for posting!

The Max Zorin for the Craig era. In that clip alone, the chemistry between Bond and Silva is perfect so I can't wait to see it for longer in the film! Very chilling hearing that Tube train approach from the darkness and Bond looking on ready for impact...!


Dear me, this anticipation for the film is going to kill me!

[The Shark]

Still, I wonder if this will be acknowledged in the film as a mistake from Bond. Will he feel responsible for the death of the people in the tube carriage? Will he feel that if he had been in a better shape, physical and psychological, this would have never happened? Or will it just be treated as collateral damage?

I'm pretty sure the train out of service.

[MkB]

Still, I wonder if this will be acknowledged in the film as a mistake from Bond. Will he feel responsible for the death of the people in the tube carriage? Will he feel that if he had been in a better shape, physical and psychological, this would have never happened? Or will it just be treated as collateral damage?

I'm pretty sure the train out of service.

Ah that would fit... I was a bit upset that an actual and successful act of terrorism could be included in a Bond film, especially one that would be really too close for comfort... It would be consistent with the habit of not having anything too "real life drama" in Bond films - which really suits me

[Vauxhall]

Haha, that's quite an extreme cut if you're not used to it.

Yeah, indeed, I feel like a more masculine version of Brienne of Tarth

That's quite an image. Hopefully without the suit of armour!

Still, I wonder if this will be acknowledged in the film as a mistake from Bond. Will he feel responsible for the death of the people in the tube carriage? Will he feel that if he had been in a better shape, physical and psychological, this would have never happened? Or will it just be treated as collateral damage?

I'm pretty sure the train out of service.

Ah that would fit... I was a bit upset that an actual and successful act of terrorism could be included in a Bond film, especially one that would be really too close for comfort... It would be consistent with the habit of not having anything too "real life drama" in Bond films - which really suits me

Yes, they've always been quite keen to limit wanton collateral damage in the Bond films. There might even be a shot shown of the driver crawling out the tube train's cab.

[Armand Fancypants]

Thinking about it... Isn't it a first example of a Villain playing the traditional Bond Trick ™ on Bond himself? I mean, Silva is in Bond's power but does not panick, makes small talk, distracts him, and suddenly takes advantage when all the odds were against him. That's usually what Bond does to the Villain, not the other way round.

Perhaps that's one of the key ideas of the film.

After all, this time it's the villains attacking Bond's lair for the climax...